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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Complete overthetop thought , I know, :rolleyes::o, but I feel at this stage, Id love to see a National Shutdown for one day. No buses no taxis no shops open. All staff everywhere, just stop what you are doing. Just shut the place down.


    Might remind them of who they are working for. They have long since forgotten.
    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭foxyladyxx


    I'm no defender of the government, but the plan is clearly herd immunity. There will be no lockdown in the winter

    They don't have a plan. Not a scooby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Toodles_27


    E36Ross wrote: »
    Are we now entering a two tier society???
    The vaccinated and the un-vaccinated.


    Will the vaccinated get special wrist bands and stickers to prove they're superior?

    Or clothing? Handmaids Tale/Gilead - no so far fetched now, is it….


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I feel sorry for anyone that booked a staycation after July 5th expecting indoor dining to be open.

    I did - booked a house for a week for the 10th July. Thought we'd be well on the way to some level of normality. But no, we just got "we plan to have a plan by the 19th".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    I'm no defender of the government, but the plan is clearly herd immunity. There will be no lockdown in the winter

    Tell me how you can have herd immunity when 25%(under 18s) of the people can't access a vaccine before winter and at least 10% of over 18s wont take the vaccine.


    That 25% will be mixing all the time so herd immunity is impossible.


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rusty cole wrote: »
    So what if you dont want a vaccine? Youre not allowed to ever dine indoors??. That wont be lifted ever..its criminal, end of story??. Begining of a very slippery slope. Weeks ago we were told vaccine identification is only for travel so conspiracy theorists are starting to sound right tbh.

    COVID

    Certificate
    Of
    Vacination
    ID idenification

    yep, doesnt sound so far fetched anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    There should genuinely be a week long general strike in this country. I'm no left wing activist, but the country needs to be brought to its knees before people actually wake up and smell the coffee.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Looking forward to Joe Duffy now!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭mcgragger


    I think people need to start doing their own thing at this point.
    It will be ****ing years before NPHET release us from this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭dubdaymo


    eskimohunt wrote: »
    Even if you don't drink, you should be appalled at personal freedoms being curtailed over dodgy figures and even more appalled that government is effectively in the jaws of overpaid bureaucrats.

    I don't drink or go to pubs and have done very little dining out in recent years and I am appalled that this weak Govt has handed over the country to an arrogant, control-freak egomaniac and his quack fortune-teller.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Sadler Peak


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Complete overthetop thought , I know, :rolleyes::o, but I feel at this stage, Id love to see a National Shutdown for one day. No buses no taxis no shops open. All staff everywhere, just stop what you are doing. Just shut the place down.


    Might remind them of who they are working for. They have long since forgotten.
    :mad:


    NPHET would be delighted with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    RobitTV wrote: »
    There should genuinely be a week long general strike in this country. I'm no left wing activist, but the country needs to be brought to its knees before people actually wake up and smell the coffee.


    The left wing are loving this. They wont be protesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I feel sorry for all the B&bs and accommodation providers without facilities who are going to get a slew of cancellations now.

    No point going anywhere in the country when you won’t be able to eat or drink anywhere as they are so booked up and prioritizing local trade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    Today's announcement is just one of another incidents in a long list of our best and brightest scientists not doing science, not interpreting research correctly and (potentially) maliciously misinforming the public as to the threat level of this particular virus.

    Lab leak origin, droplets vs aerosols, lockdown and mask efficacy (or lack of), ivermectin stifled as a therapeutic due to sketchy EUA rules surrounding vaccine rollout to protect pharmaceutical companies' profits.

    The world is paying for the results of bad science while being duped into thinking we are following "the" science.

    If today's fiasco doesn't open a few eyes here at home I dont know what the fvck will.

    Fauci's email leaks were illuminating to no end.
    Tempted to put in an FOI on NPHET communications in the run up to these decisions. God knows the journalists in this country won't bother their holes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,377 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Looking forward to Joe Duffy now!!
    He won't cover this is my prediction...but who knows
    Yesterday was real cutting edge stuff......people hitting deer on motorways (I am not joking)


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,868 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    sweden expanding their reopening of indoor dining on 1st July to allow eateries and cafes which can seat up to 300 indoors and 3,000 outside and remain open after 10:30 p.m.

    remember sweden, with their light touch restrictions....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭mcgragger


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I did - booked a house for a week for the 10th July. Thought we'd be well on the way to some level of normality. But no, we just got "we plan to have a plan by the 19th".

    And you know we wont have a plan for the 19th.
    Indoor dining and pubs are never going to open again it would appear.
    All of those gigs that were pushed until 2022 are in doubt as well.
    NPHET will be locking us down for years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,212 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    I feel sorry for all the B&bs and accommodation providers without facilities who are going to get a slew of cancellations now.

    No point going anywhere in the country when you won’t be able to eat or drink anywhere as they are so booked up and prioritizing local trade.

    Exactly but we are told here by certain posters that it is all about people wanting to have a session,these delays have far reaching consequences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    I'm no defender of the government, but the plan is clearly herd immunity. There will be no lockdwon in the winter

    Yeah right

    If we're this restricted in summer with the cases, icu and hosopitalisation as they are now then god help us when seasonality kicks in

    it will take a miracle for NPHET not to recommend a lockdown later in the year given their BS modelling for July to September


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Leo just said it was policy not to use this system in ireland and its a change to policy..ergo...tony had changed policy..plus he wont sign off on antigen test and said pcrs are not accetable for travel..how is this not being shredded..he cannot answer and martin looks clueless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭mcgragger


    aidoh wrote: »
    Today's announcement is just one of another incidents in a long list of our best and brightest scientists not doing science, not interpreting research correctly and (potentially) maliciously misinforming the public as to the threat level of this particular virus.

    Lab leak origin, droplets vs aerosols, lockdown and mask efficacy (or lack of), ivermectin stifled as a therapeutic due to sketchy EUA rules surrounding vaccine rollout to protect pharmaceutical companies' profits.

    The world is paying for the results of bad science while being duped into thinking we are following "the" science.

    If today's fiasco doesn't open a few eyes here at home I dont know what the fvck will.

    Fauci's email leaks were illuminating to no end.
    Tempted to put in an FOI on NPHET communications in the run up to these decisions. God knows the journalists in this country won't bother their holes.

    how would you go about the FOI request?
    I'll bloody do it too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,444 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Stephen Donnelly on RTE confirmed what a lot of people suspect. Cabinet don't challenge or verify the NPHET advice/modelling data and they agree with NPHET recommendations because "they are the experts". I mean he said they agree with NPHET that only vaccinated people should use the Green Cert even though we have legally signed up to it's use for tested and recovered people also! That's actually funny when you think about it if it weren't so serious. The cabinet has abdicated all responsibility to Tony Holohan and his chums.

    A gigantic multi billion euro arse covering exercise is unfolding before our eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    gmisk wrote: »
    You could eat inside in the place your staying though...it is bizarre

    Oh I know, I’m booked and all, but it’s a guesthouse so can only have breakfast anyway….we were banking on indoor hospitality being open by then….and now there’s not even a date as to when that will happen? Utterly ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    rusty cole wrote: »
    So what if you dont want a vaccine? Youre not allowed to ever dine indoors??. That wont be lifted ever..its criminal, end of story??. Begining of a very slippery slope. Weeks ago we were told vaccine identification is only for travel so conspiracy theorists are starting to sound right tbh.

    You could infect yourself with this "deadly" pathogen and recover


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MM confirming they will just have a plan by the 19th July, not that places will be open then..

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Patser


    We have experience of it with TB. Almost 10,000 people died from TB between 1950 and 1960.

    Oh forgot about that, polio probably around too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,198 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So the UK will be back to normal from the 19th July but we will be unable to travel over because they will jack up fines etc in the Irish Airports and then have you pay for test after test

    Are they going to do vaccinations 24/7 to improve and help us reopen faster? Will they ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,425 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Jake1 wrote: »
    MM confirming they will just have a plan by the 19th July, not that places will be open then..

    :rolleyes:

    Exactly, definitely will go on until after August bank holiday I’d say


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