Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

agoodpunt wrote: »

RTE gloom Lee & co. news is pessimestic any neg even from an open Europe finds guidelines from european data say 97% more bla bla bla
holiday abroad if you want dine or drink inside is the goverment policy, even vaccinated will be vunerable before we leave the summer probably lockdown by xmas

What??

hynesie08 wrote: »

It's amazing how the context changes with that one word.

Just stop. You asked for evidence, you got it and now you're being pedantic/trying to move the goalposts

Holohan was making speeches on the topic 11 years ago:

It will be, I’m sure, a timely and worthwhile contribution to public debate about alcohol, its harms and what we can do to mitigate them. For those of you visiting for the first time, welcome to Ireland and to Dublin.

We in Ireland are famous the world over for our drinking culture – just about every city in the world celebrates the Irish fondness for drink with an ‘Irish Pub’. Drinking is associated with our ‘gift of the gab’, our sociability and our artistic nature.

And it is true that there are some positives in relation to alcohol, some level of social lubrication and some health benefits. But these benefits are derived only from low levels of alcohol consumption. And this is not the way we drink alcohol in this country. Somehow we have let ourselves believe that alcohol is not really a problem in Ireland. We are complacent. We choose to ignore evidence of the huge and avoidable extent of the problem that alcohol wreaks on our society.

It is time to stop turning a blind eye to the alcohol problem, or accepting it as an inevitability of being Irish. It is time to look at the evidence of how alcohol is really affecting Irish individuals, families and society as a whole. It is time, therefore, for us to take action

Maybe accept it with good grace and move on.

Whatsisname wrote: »

On the 12th of April, the day restaurants reopened here, 47.51% of the population had atleast 1 dose.

On 20th June (no further dates available on Our World In Data right now), Ireland had 47.58% of the population with atleast 1 dose.

I think I seen Paul Reid say theres 68% one dose and M.martin say 40% double dosed, so we could actually be at the same level the UK were at in double doses to their single dose by July 5th

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Just stop. You asked for evidence, you got it and now you're being pedantic/trying to move the goalposts

Holohan was making speeches on the topic 11 years ago:



Maybe accept it with good grace and move on.

Show me a quote from tony holohan where he wants to stop Ireland drinking, it's a simple question.

agoodpunt wrote: »

RTE gloom Lee & co. news is pessimestic any neg even from an open Europe finds guidelines from european data say 97% more bla bla bla
holiday abroad if you want dine or drink inside is the goverment policy, even vaccinated will be vunerable before we leave the summer probably lockdown by xmas

Is this a quote from Lee, or are you adding in your own bits? nearly had a stroke trying to read this.

niallo27 wrote: »

First number is the uk on the day uk dining was open, I thought that was pretty obvious since the original was actually about uk dining.

Dining outside, so pretty much exactly the same....

mightyreds wrote: »

I think I seen Paul Reid say theres 68% one dose and M.martin say 40% double dosed, so we could actually be at the same level the UK were at in double doses to their single dose by July 5th

The UK opened with 84 doses per 100 people, we will have approx 83 per 100 people on the 5th of July, NPHET planned this, when questioned a month ago they could say we are opening at the same level as the UK, but now it’s clear this was never their intention and just a ploy to keep kicking the can down the road, now it’s two weeks which will turn into a month, it’s a shambles.

niallo27 wrote: »

Apologies I thought it was the figure when they opened indoor dining, what figure were they at when they opened indoor dining anyone know.

That caught me out too ,I think it was 54% on May 17th first dose, I seen it said earlier

So annoyed today. Fed up of this country and the gobs*ites running it. It feels like playing a game that is set up to make you lose, the rules keep changing. If its not deaths it's hospitalisations, if not that it's case numbers, if not that it's variants, they will always just find some reason to keep things shut and make this go on for longer than it needs to. This is going to be another summer ruined by NPHET.

I would love to just know - what makes Ireland so different?! We are receiving the same amount of vaccines per capita as the rest of the EU, we have a population happy to take the vaccines, we have low hospital and ICU numbers. Why can we not live like the rest of Europe.

The next week is going to be crippling with the fear of them kicking things back, personally a delay of two weeks isn't the biggest deal in isolation, but it won't be a two week delay. It will be at least a delay until August, followed by another delay until the schools are open and then we are nearly back into winter and the cycle restarts.

It pains me to say it, but I hate this country and the people running it. 18 months ago and prior I would have said I loved this country but this pandemic has really shone on a light on what it's really like due to the a***holes running the show. If there was a protest organised for next weekend I would actually go, and I say that as someone who has been critical of them in the past. Something needs to happen.

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

So annoyed today. Fed up of this country and the gobs*ites running it. It feels like playing a game that is set up to make you lose, the rules keep changing. If its not deaths it's hospitalisations, if not that it's case numbers, if not that it's variants, they will always just find some reason to keep things shut and make this go on for longer than it needs to. This is going to be another summer ruined by NPHET.

I would love to just know - what makes Ireland so different?! We are receiving the same amount of vaccines per capita as the rest of the EU, we have a population happy to take the vaccines, we have low hospital and ICU numbers. Why can we not live like the rest of Europe.

The next week is going to be crippling with the fear of them kicking things back, personally a delay of two weeks isn't the biggest deal in isolation, but it won't be a two week delay. It will be at least a delay until August, followed by another delay until the schools are open and then we are nearly back into winter and the cycle restarts.

It pains me to say it, but I hate this country and the people running it. 18 months ago and prior I would have said I loved this country but this pandemic has really shone on a light on what it's really like due to the a***holes running the show. If there was a protest organised for next weekend I would actually go, and I say that as someone who has been critical of them in the past. Something needs to happen.

I agree, the last 18 months showed how backwater this country really is.