Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

rightmove · 22-06-2021 12:16pm

silverharp wrote: »

imagine having a philosophy that tells a class of kids that they are either losers or asshol3s

Men have been told it for years. On fathers day I saw bbc had fathers day songs on. Had about one min viewing and a song called oh father by emy lou harris came on. The subtitles told me was written by Dolly about her arse hole father.
I switched off at that point.

the purple tin · 22-06-2021 12:50pm

silverharp wrote: »

imagine having a philosophy that tells a class of kids that they are either losers or asshol3s

It's nothing new in America.

Minor Threat wrote a song about it in 1981..

"Guilty Of Being White"

I'm sorry for something I didn't do
Lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white

I'm sorry for something I didn't do
Lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white

I'm a convict
Guilty!
Of a racist crime
Guilty!
I've only served
Guilty!
19 years of my time

I'm sorry for something I didn't do
Lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white

Danonino. · 22-06-2021 8:55pm

I prefer NoFx's take in 1994:

Don’t Call Me White

Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
The connotations wearing my nerves thin
Could it be semantics generating the mess we're in?
I understand that language breeds stereotype
But what's the explanation for the malice, for the spite?
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
I wasn't brought here, I was born
Circumcised, categorized, allegiance sworn
Does this mean I have to take such ****
For being fair skinned? No!
I ain't a part of no conspiracy, I'm just you're average joe
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Represents everything I hate
The soap shoved in the mouth to cleanse the mind
The vast majority of sheep
A buttoned collar, starched and bleached
Constricting veins, the blood flow to the brain slows
They're so ****in ordinary white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Oh, we're better off this way?
Oh, say what you're gonna say
So go ahead and label me an asshole
'cause I can
Accept responsibility for what I've done
But not for who I am
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white

Edit: My interpretation has always been: Call me an asshole if I do asshole things, but don't apply a stereotype to me due to the colour of my skin, because it doesn't fit. Same as it doesn’t fit anyone else. I ain’t ‘the man’ I’m just a regular asshole like you.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-06-2021 9:01pm

silverharp wrote: »

imagine having a philosophy that tells a class of kids that they are either losers or asshol3s

Does sound a bit catholic when you put it like that...!

silverharp · 22-06-2021 9:23pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Does sound a bit catholic when you put it like that...!

if I remember christian/catholic ethics it would be everyone's a sinner but there was forgiveness available. Wokeness dividing people into either losers or asshol3s maybe could be related to Calvanists and predestitation? except nobody wins and there is no redemption

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-06-2021 9:41pm

silverharp wrote: »

if I remember christian/catholic ethics it would be everyone's a sinner but there was forgiveness available. Wokeness dividing people into either losers or asshol3s maybe could be related to Calvanists and predestitation? except nobody wins and there is no redemption

That's more existentialist niihilism, I world have thought, but not welll-versed enough in either to say for sure. Plus, woke offers redemption by living a life free of offense, no matter how boring. We're 're all assholes/sinners and we have to suffer for the pride of our ancestors to atone.

Just be thankful the woke crowd aren't sodomising little boys (to the best knowkedge).

MisterAnarchy · 22-06-2021 10:38pm

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1407382360530644999

Quantum Erasure · 22-06-2021 10:50pm

I hear they're going to get Dwane 'The Rock' Johnson to play three of the seven dwarfs, in a trenchcoat

22-06-2021 10:51pm

Danonino. wrote: »

I wasn't brought here, I was born
Circumcised, categorized, allegiance sworn

Surely there's a comma missing. Or?

OptimusTractor · 22-06-2021 11:05pm

the purple tin wrote: »

It's nothing new in America.

Minor Threat wrote a song about it in 1981..

"Guilty Of Being White"

I'm sorry for something I didn't do
Lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white

I'm sorry for something I didn't do
Lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white

I'm a convict
Guilty!
Of a racist crime
Guilty!
I've only served
Guilty!
19 years of my time

I'm sorry for something I didn't do
Lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white
Guilty of being white

McKaye wrote that song about him & his friends being bullied in a predominantly black high school. He said himself it's never meant to describe a broad spectrum. Though if it was released today it would seem that way.

Strumms · 22-06-2021 11:07pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I hear they're going to get Dwane 'The Rock' Johnson to play three of the seven dwarfs, in a trenchcoat

Can’t be heightest...

23-06-2021 10:10am

silverharp wrote: »

if I remember christian/catholic ethics it would be everyone's a sinner but there was forgiveness available. Wokeness dividing people into either losers or asshol3s maybe could be related to Calvanists and predestitation? except nobody wins and there is no redemption

Wokeness is an attempt to impose a new moral landscape where, just like Christianity, those who have the audacity to stand up and speak out are vilified as heretics.

Though I'm an atheist, I do believe this kind of moral absolutism has acted as a replacement from a decline of Christianity from the 2000s.

It shows that, if anything, people need a belief system and others to decry as heretics.

Ash.J.Williams · 23-06-2021 10:22am

OptimusTractor wrote: »

McKaye wrote that song about him & his friends being bullied in a predominantly black high school. He said himself it's never meant to describe a broad spectrum. Though if it was released today it would seem that way.

Also slayer changed the last word of the song to “right” which McKaye wasn’t happy with at all

silverharp · 23-06-2021 10:31am

eskimohunt wrote: »

Wokeness is an attempt to impose a new moral landscape where, just like Christianity, those who have the audacity to stand up and speak out are vilified as heretics.

Though I'm an atheist, I do believe this kind of moral absolutism has acted as a replacement from a decline of Christianity from the 2000s.

It shows that, if anything, people need a belief system and others to decry as heretics.

at least the old order promoted life affirming goals that helped people on average , the new order is nihilistic and depressing

23-06-2021 10:33am

silverharp wrote: »

at least the old order promoted life affirming goals that helped people on average , the new order is nihilistic and depressing

But both Christianity and Wokeism share one core feature: anti-scientism.

Objectivity is thrown out the window in favour of faith-based, subjective beliefs uprooted from science but rooted in emotion and subjectivity.

I think we can all think of examples of this.

silverharp · 23-06-2021 10:47am

eskimohunt wrote: »

But both Christianity and Wokeism share one core feature: anti-scientism.

Objectivity is thrown out the window in favour of faith-based, subjective beliefs uprooted from science but rooted in emotion and subjectivity.

I think we can all think of examples of this.

oh I agree, I guess the trick is keeping centrist structures that protect themselves from being taken over by ideologues but dont go down some techo-china route and become authoritarian in the process.
Can we have the 90's back ?

Dyr · 23-06-2021 10:59am

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Also slayer changed the last word of the song to “right” which McKaye wasn’t happy with at all

McKaye is an insufferable gimp.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-06-2021 3:05pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Wokeness is an attempt to impose a new moral landscape where, just like Christianity, those who have the audacity to stand up and speak out are vilified as heretics.

Though I'm an atheist, I do believe this kind of moral absolutism has acted as a replacement from a decline of Christianity from the 2000s.

It shows that, if anything, people need a belief system and others to decry as heretics.

It shows people are too lazy to actually think for themselves and too embarrassed to admit it; and this is much easier to just follow someone loud and aggressive.

Nazi Germamy, various world religions, woke.

23-06-2021 3:40pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It shows people are too lazy to actually think for themselves and too embarrassed to admit it; and this is much easier to just follow someone loud and aggressive.

Nazi Germamy, various world religions, woke.

In other words, blind unyielding dogmatism to an ideology.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-06-2021 5:31pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In other words, blind unyielding dogmatism to an ideology.

Yeah, exactly. I use too many words sometimes!

24-06-2021 10:03am

The good news, at least, is that these people will never be in the majority. They tend to be a loud minority of the middle to upper middle class category who know nothing about the real world. They probably don't even know how to make their bed, yet feel compelled to tackle issues on a global scale. It's almost as if they want themselves to feel special and relevant in ways they are clearly not in their own lives.

Geuze · 24-06-2021 10:11am

eskimohunt wrote: »

But both Christianity and Wokeism share one core feature: anti-scientism.

Objectivity is thrown out the window in favour of faith-based, subjective beliefs uprooted from science but rooted in emotion and subjectivity.

I think we can all think of examples of this.

Christianity is not anti-science.

Sure there are dozens of religious people who made scientific discoveries.

https://www.google.com/search?q=catholic+scientists+in+history&oq=catholic+scien&aqs=chrome.1.0l2j69i57j0l7.10214j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

24-06-2021 10:13am

Geuze wrote: »

Christianity is not anti-science.

Sure there are dozens of religious people who made scientific discoveries.

https://www.google.com/search?q=catholic+scientists+in+history&oq=catholic+scien&aqs=chrome.1.0l2j69i57j0l7.10214j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

And there are dozens of Wokeists who are scientists, too.

What's your point?

Even Isaac Newton believed in alchemy and that he could find the Elixir of Life; part of his occult studies.

Ultimately, putting people aside - the foundational principles of both Christianity and Wokeism are anti-science.

24-06-2021 10:27am

Mommie dearest...

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1407720409991204868?s=20

24-06-2021 10:32am

isha wrote: »

Mommie dearest...

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1407720409991204868?s=20

It's enough to make you sick.

And, as an aside, why do stupid statements always sound even more stupid and vexatious when an American says it?

Kingp35 · 24-06-2021 10:48am

Geuze wrote: »

Christianity is not anti-science.

Sure there are dozens of religious people who made scientific discoveries.

https://www.google.com/search?q=catholic+scientists+in+history&oq=catholic+scien&aqs=chrome.1.0l2j69i57j0l7.10214j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

All religions are anti-science. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

Cordell · 24-06-2021 10:48am

So a 5yo woke up with violence in her heart?
JFC

Cordell · 24-06-2021 10:53am

Kingp35 wrote: »

All religions are anti-science. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

Not really, while most will have beliefs that are contradicted by science, they are not against science. They will say you go look for your truths your way, we are looking our way.

And then we have the perfect religion, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

24-06-2021 10:58am

Cordell wrote: »

So a 5yo woke up with violence in her heart?
JFC

Virus in her heart. That is what I heard anyway. It is a bit odd because I don't know how she could diagnose that or be casual about it if diagnosed elsewhere.
It could be - and this would match her general levels of mega craziness - that the virus in heart is a fashionable thing she is hearing more about now due to the myocarditis news and she wanted to be on that band wagon too.

But to think a mother whose child is unwell with anything is most concerned about her ''white girl tears'' :eek:

Butson · 24-06-2021 12:20pm

America is going to eat itself alive with this nonsense.

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