Interesting Maps

Hurrache wrote: »

Doesn't seem very accurate at all when it comes to pyrite. There's plenty around the Leinster region and yet there's just the one in Dunboyne on the map.

this appears to be a map of those houses who have been registered with the redress scheme. so loads that have not registered yet.
in leinster a lot of houses had it in the fill as opposed to the blocks and were dealt with under a separate redress scheme.

Might the collective term for ringforts be a murmuration?

NIMAN wrote: »

It's not houses registered with the redress scheme. It's just a map where homeowners can add their eircode if they know, or think, their house has mica.

It's only a fraction of the real number.

This got plenty of media coverage for about a week, including a very good doc on Virgin media one tonight, but it's still not getting the coverage it needs to get.

This problem is huge.

ya huge indeed. id love to know more about the ones in dunboyne and gorey. what happens if this has now ''spread'' to boom time estates build in the dublin commuter belt?

Is that read and write in English?
East cork and Waterford is surprising if so.

SharpshooterTom wrote: »

In 1840, 58% of adults in England could read and write.

Seth Brundle wrote: »

The British government felt that its Irish citizens weren't worthy of an education which led to the likes of hedge schools.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge_school

And they were actually very good schools considering. Latin and Greek being common subjects.

Yurt! wrote: »

And they all went off and got jobs as a Latin speaking operator at a call centre in an IDA industrial estate and lived happily ever after.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Actually we were ahead of the curve. The national school system was established in Ireland in 1831, long before any similar system in England. Ireland had the first state system of elementary education in the English speaking world.

The system was established by the "Stanley Letter" and committed the government to bear two thirds of the cost out of public funds. Schools were intended to be non-denominational or inter denominational. Needless to say the churches eroded that aspect by a war of attrition.

After a slow but steady start, by the early 1850s there were over 5000 schools catering to over half a million children. The map above would look quite different 10 and 20 years later.

Incidentally, school books developed in Marlborough St were highly thought of and were used throughout the British colonies.

Krakatoa is also an excellent read.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Krakatoa is also an excellent read.

and The Map that Changed the World

meanwhile

retalivity wrote: »

That's a very wonky looking Ireland, no wonder there are so many Armada wrecks off the west coast if it wasn't mapped correctly!

"We are about to hit land sir". "keep going straight Pablo, the map says this is all water"

there's a myth in my family that a great(ggg) grandmother had a fling with an Armada survivor - loads of my female cousins, and even my sister, are all very dark skinned and jet black hair.

My sister and dad have been approached while on holidays in Spain, by other holidaymakers speaking in broken spanish and loud english to them looking for directions.

the family name is from the west of Ireland

Brian? wrote: »

Same myth in my family, my Grandmother is from Whiddy Island in Bantry Bay.


I did a DNA test last year though, which has pretty much put the idea to bed. I think the dark skin is more to do with the migration of people from Northern Iberia to Ireland mixing with the residents.

But wouldn't Northern Iberian migration show up similarly to a wrecked Spanish sailor in a DNA profile?

Brian? wrote: »

Nope, populations thousands of years apart. The people in Iberia who migrated to Ireland during the bronze age weren't that closely related to the later populations. Especially not post Spanish caliphate.

My DNA shows genetic markers common in Irish people but not common among modern Spanish people, who would be closely related to the Spanish people aboard the Armada.

The Irish genetic make up is closest to Britain, the link to Iberia was from the early days of testing and was due to the Y lineage R1b being found in high levels in the Basque region and the assumption being made that it originated there due to that high frequency. Recent testing on ancient remains in Europe indicate that R1b arrived in both Iberia from Eastern Europe (arriving there somewhere North of the Black Sea) and was spread during the mid to late Bronze Age with the archaeological feature know as the Bell Beakers.
I think the Armada story has more to do with Spain being a Catholic Empire fighting against the British Protestant Empire, it makes Irish people seem less linked to British.