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2021 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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    #242
    yerwanthere123
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    whiterebel wrote: »
    Didn’t he have a neck injury?

    The perils of too much video gaming. I'd similar trouble with my Nintendo 64 when I was around 8.


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    #243
    yerwanthere123
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    Interesting from Federer today, surprised this didn't get posted. Click on the tweet for full thread.

    https://twitter.com/tumcarayol/status/1405216782638530566


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    #244
    MisterAnarchy
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    Nadal has pulled out of Wimbledon and the Olympics saying that , he needs to "recuperate after a long clay-court season".


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    #245
    Girly Gal
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    Nadal out of Wimbledon, looks like the beginning of the end for Rafa, his body no longer able to sustain the level of punishment required to play his game, age finally catching up with him.


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    #246
    MisterAnarchy
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    2 weeks between the French Open and Wimbledon is an absolute farce in fairness.
    No excuse for that sort of stupid scheduling.


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    #247
    josip
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    Strange to pull out of the Olympics, unless he fancies his chances in the US Open?


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    #248
    klr87
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    2 weeks between the French Open and Wimbledon is an absolute farce in fairness.
    No excuse for that sort of stupid scheduling.
    It should have been 3 weeks, as it's been since 2015, but the FFT insisted on delaying the French Open by a week, in the hope that some spectators would be allowed.


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    #249
    ArmaniJeanss
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    klr87 wrote: »
    It should have been 3 weeks, as it's been since 2015, but the FFT insisted on delaying the French Open by a week, in the hope that some spectators would be allowed.

    Roland Garros kept the grand slam show going last year, whilst Wimbledon didn't bother.
    So I'd find it hard to begrudge the French rescheduling by a week this year in an attempt to make it more financially viable for them.


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    #250
    paulie21
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    Uncle Toni was only bigging up his Wimbledon chances yesterday. Was there a falling out between them? Would imagine he'd know he was considering withdrawing


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    #251
    Hector Savage
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    paulie21 wrote: »
    Uncle Toni was only bigging up his Wimbledon chances yesterday. Was there a falling out between them? Would imagine he'd know he was considering withdrawing

    Uncle Toni is Felix Auger coach now, so he really should stay quiet.

    But great news , I can enjoy Wimbledon now!


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    #252
    Hector Savage
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    josip wrote: »
    Strange to pull out of the Olympics, unless he fancies his chances in the US Open?

    Could be, he already has an Olympic gold, he'll also have an eye on AO2022, to try and get that career double slam ...


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    #253
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    josip wrote: »
    Strange to pull out of the Olympics, unless he fancies his chances in the US Open?

    Djokovic took his soul

    He has to take time off to meet the devil at the crossroads again like Robert Johnson


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    #254
    josip
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    glasso wrote: »
    Djokovic took his soul

    He has to take time off to meet the devil at the crossroads again like Robert Johnson


    One and the same according to some :)


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    #255
    Royale with Cheese
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    Would hardly be worth his while turning up in Australia next year either if he's going to go down this route. I wonder would he be allowed to eventually just play the clay season.


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    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    Would hardly be worth his while turning up in Australia next year either if he's going to go down this route. I wonder would he be allowed to eventually just play the clay season.

    he can play when and where he wants if can keep enough of a ranking to make the draw.

    they can't make exceptions just for whomever in that respect


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    #257
    paulie21
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    Osaka has withdrawn as well


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    #258
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    She'll be back for the tournaments where she gets past the third round


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    #259
    klr87
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    paulie21 wrote: »
    Osaka has withdrawn as well
    No shock there. She dug herself such a hole during the French Open, that to play Wimbledon would probably have been viewed as a climb--down of sorts. Not to mention her record is as poor at SW19 as it is at Roland Garros.

    She's talking big about coming back for the Olympics and winning Gold. Well, "She would, wouldn't she?", but it's hardly going to reduce the spotlight on her. The pressure from the Japanese press may well be greater than anything she's yet experienced.


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    #260
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    I suppose that there won't be press conferences at the Olympics in the same way as at a GS event so wouldn't be surprised to see her there and will defo be in for the US Open and kid gloves will be sold out in New York for the duration of the tournament.

    As you said dug her own hole here the way she went about things.


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    #261
    Slashermcguirk
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    hopefully has left the tour, an absolute clown. Maturity of a 12 year old and spends more time just slagging the top players than winning matches. go and win a load of slams and then you can slag them off, until you do that you just look like a clown
    Floppybits wrote: »
    What is the story with Kyrgios? Has he given up? What a waste of talent.


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    #262
    Girly Gal
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    Slashermcguirk wrote: »
    hopefully has left the tour, an absolute clown. Maturity of a 12 year old and spends more time just slagging the top players than winning matches. go and win a load of slams and then you can slag them off, until you do that you just look like a clown

    Wasted talent, probably as talented as any of the top players, just doesn't have the application or mentality, players like Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and others have gotten pretty much every ounce of potential out of themselves, made huge sacrifices to do that, while he just turns up when he feels like it and expects to compete with them. If he had channelled all that wasted energy on his tennis he might have actually been a serious contender at GS level.


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    #263
    MisterAnarchy
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    glasso wrote: »
    I suppose that there won't be press conferences at the Olympics in the same way as at a GS event so wouldn't be surprised to see her there and will defo be in for the US Open and kid gloves will be sold out in New York for the duration of the tournament.

    As you said dug her own hole here the way she went about things.

    I can see her opening a can of worms in Tokyo if she takes the knee or wears any BLM apparel.
    Both have been banned by the IOC.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/apr/21/podium-protests-to-be-banned-at-tokyo-olympics-after-athletes-poll


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    #264
    gmisk
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    Watched a few of the queen's matches on Amazon prime.
    Shapovalov Vs Norrie today was a decent one, Norrie started horribly but really improved as match went on he has come on leaps and bounds this year. Doesn't make many mistakes and really solid.

    Enjoyed the Evans Vs Berretini match, would put him as clear favourite versus Norrie in the final, definitely not Norries best surface.
    Berretini could do extremely well at Wimbledon with that big serve.


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    #265
    gmisk
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    Cracking final at queen's Norrie versus Berretini.
    Norrie gave him a battle....but Berretini is a serious player...he could go very very far at Wimbledon


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    #266
    Girly Gal
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Cracking final at queen's Norrie versus Berretini.
    Norrie gave him a battle....but Berretini is a serious player...he could go very very far at Wimbledon

    He can certainly get to the latter stages, has a good serve and Djokovic and Federer apart, very few of the top 20 guys have done anything at Wimbledon plus haven't played on grass for 2 years. If you were to take Djokovic out, it would be an extremely open tournament and would be difficult to predict a winner


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    #267
    klr87
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    Girly Gal wrote: »
    He can certainly get to the latter stages, has a good serve and Djokovic and Federer apart, very few of the top 20 guys have done anything at Wimbledon plus haven't played on grass for 2 years. If you were to take Djokovic out, it would be an extremely open tournament and would be difficult to predict a winner
    Between them, Zverev, Thiem, Medvedev and Tsitsipas have been in 86 finals (43 victories), from ATP 250 level all the way up to the grand slams. But on grass, they have just 3 finals (1 victory, by Thiem). The last of those grass finals was in 2017. Medvedev made QF at Wimbledon in 2019, the other three have all been to the 4th round once there.

    Even with relatively few tournaments on grass, and none at all last year, that is still a poor return on grass. None of them look to be Wimbledon champions in waiting, not in the near future anyway, unless the draw falls apart in their favour.


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    #268
    Girly Gal
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    klr87 wrote: »
    Between them, Zverev, Thiem, Medvedev and Tsitsipas have been in 86 finals (43 victories), from ATP 250 level all the way up to the grand slams. But on grass, they have just 3 finals (1 victory, by Thiem). The last of those grass finals was in 2017. Medvedev made QF at Wimbledon in 2019, the other three have all been to the 4th round once there.

    Even with relatively few tournaments on grass, and none at all last year, that is still a poor return on grass. None of them look to be Wimbledon champions in waiting, not in the near future anyway, unless the draw falls apart in their favour.

    Once Djokovic goes I think we're going to see a period in the men's game where players will come from nowhere, win a slam and disappear, similar to the women's game.


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    Hector Savage
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Cracking final at queen's Norrie versus Berretini.
    Norrie gave him a battle....but Berretini is a serious player...he could go very very far at Wimbledon

    For sure, I was thinking Sinner was the Italian lad to watch, and then Berretinni ... boom.


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    Girly Gal wrote: »
    Once Djokovic goes I think we're going to see a period in the men's game where players will come from nowhere, win a slam and disappear, similar to the women's game.

    Certainly there will be a void but it will never be two Eastern European nobody plod players world-ranked in the 30's in a GS final like the French there.

    Fookedifiknowya Vs Whothehellrya

    Tsipsitpas showed in the French final that he already has grit to go with the talent imo

    And there are other prospects like Sinner that will hopefully rise to match him to have at least two consistent quality players. Ideally want to have 4 at a good level competing. Trying to replace the best ever is a very tall order.


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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    For sure, I was thinking Sinner was the Italian lad to watch, and then Berretinni ... boom.

    Berrettini is 25 Vs Sinner 19 tho

    Big difference.

    Sinner has potential but has to realise it.

    Berrettini is good with a big heavy serve and forehand but is not mobile enough to be top top level imo

    He could go deep at Wimbledon nonetheless

    He was 4R in 2019 so was showing an improving trend there


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