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2021 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭CassieManson


    Rob2D wrote:
    I hate the way Nike aren't sending out different sets to players. Have Sinner v Draper on in the background and whenever I look I can't tell who's who.


    It's to help you to prepare for Wimbledon where they all look the same!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,937 ✭✭✭✭josip


    glasso wrote: »
    True.

    No way you're going to get away with counting mixed doubles slams in your GS total


    His $300m Uniqlo contract runs until 2028, does he have to continue playing according to that contract or just be the brand ambassador?


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    josip wrote: »
    His $300m Uniqlo contract runs until 2028, does he have to continue playing according to that contract or just be the brand ambassador?

    I don't know tbh.

    I would doubt that they expect him to keep going on the main tour until he's 47 (unless a number of matches on the retirement exhibition gig circuit)

    the contract will have set all that out but won't be public I guess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    It'd be an undeniable step down though, no? It's singles where the prestige is.

    True but at his age he's done what he's going to do in singles. All the old greats were acomplished doubles players. It's nice to have on the resume for sure. And a bit of a gap when it's not there IMO. It just fell out of favour recently with the switch to more intensive training on the off days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    josip wrote: »
    His $300m Uniqlo contract runs until 2028, does he have to continue playing according to that contract or just be the brand ambassador?

    I doubt they expect him to play singles until 2028, he'll be 46 or 47, Covid probably pushed his retirement back a year or two, had Covid not came I'd say he'd have finished up last year, wants a final shot at Wimbledon and the Olympics, the fact that there won't be full crowds this year probably means he'll hang on for next year.
    He could probably play doubles until 2028 alright and would be a massive draw. Nadal and Djokovic might even follow suit in a few years and continue fighting it out there, if that happened the doubles tour wouldn't know what hit it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,937 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Girly Gal wrote: »
    ...Nadal and Djokovic might even follow suit in a few years and continue fighting it out there, if that happened the doubles tour wouldn't know what hit it.

    Or maybe they could pair up?


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    josip wrote: »
    Or maybe they could pair up?

    I wonder who would be likely to pair up with who!

    might indicate what they really think behind the scenes

    couldn't see Djokovic paring up with Federer as Djokovic has just foiled him at too many slams

    Nadal is probably seen as a more "neutral" party as he was the RG animal as a given.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    glasso wrote: »
    I wonder who would be likely to pair up with who!

    might indicate what they really think behind the scenes

    couldn't see Djokovic paring up with Federer as Djokovic has just foiled him at too many slams

    Nadal is probably seen as a more "neutral" party as he was the RG animal as a given.

    Fed and Nadal actually get on well it seems plus Nadal is the much better doubles player anyway. I'd be surprised if we don't see it at some point. It's guaranteed viership money for the tour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Wimbledon tickets are due to go on sale this week.
    It looks like most of them will be sold online on Ticketmaster, there will be no queuing this year.
    Handy for anyone in the Uk, a really good chance of getting tickets to it this year unlike normally.

    https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/tickets/index.html
    Tickets for The Championships 2021 will be made available via an online sale, which we anticipate commencing in mid-June. All tickets will be distributed via the official Wimbledon mobile Apps for iOS and Android.

    There will be no Queue in operation this year, and the 2021 Qualifying Competition will be closed to the public.


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    Rob2D wrote: »
    Fed and Nadal actually get on well it seems plus Nadal is the much better doubles player anyway. I'd be surprised if we don't see it at some point. It's guaranteed viership money for the tour.

    probably a likely outcome alright if they fancy it

    Navratilova was still getting to GS Doubles Semis at 50 (near as)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    glasso wrote: »
    I wonder who would be likely to pair up with who!

    might indicate what they really think behind the scenes

    couldn't see Djokovic paring up with Federer as Djokovic has just foiled him at too many slams

    Nadal is probably seen as a more "neutral" party as he was the RG animal as a given.

    Djokovic and Nadal would never pair up , they f*ckin hate each other ! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Paire blending in with the scenery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Djokovic and Nadal would never pair up , they f*ckin hate each other ! :D

    I don't think that's the case at all. There seems to be a lot of animosity between Fed and Djokovic, but I've never seen any hostility between Nadal and Djoker.


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    I don't think that's the case at all. There seems to be a lot of animosity between Fed and Djokovic, but I've never seen any hostility between Nadal and Djoker.

    yes - Nadal and Djokovic seem ok imo from interactions

    Fed and Djokovic not so - and tbh I'm pretty sure that it's more on the Fed side!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Glad to see Murray winning there.

    His next match will be tough, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,937 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Djokovic to play doubles in Mallorca.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/57486181

    Partner not yet announced, might be someone local? biggrin.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    The field at Queens has become so weak over the years. I remember back in the day a lot of the top players would play but Federer never had any interest (presumably contracted to Halle), Nadal and Djokovic i think played maybe twice ever and the last time they played each other there was in 2008 from memory. I suppose it is only a 500 event so no real incentive to play in it. A friend of mine went a couple of years ago and said the field was very poor


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    The field at Queens has become so weak over the years. I remember back in the day a lot of the top players would play but Federer never had any interest (presumably contracted to Halle), Nadal and Djokovic i think played maybe twice ever and the last time they played each other there was in 2008 from memory. I suppose it is only a 500 event so no real incentive to play in it. A friend of mine went a couple of years ago and said the field was very poor

    It's a shame really as it seems like a really well organised event, pristine courts, and a nice introduction to grass tennis before Wimbledon. The event has a bit of prestige too but, as you say, the field rarely reflects that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat


    The field at Queens has become so weak over the years. I remember back in the day a lot of the top players would play but Federer never had any interest (presumably contracted to Halle), Nadal and Djokovic i think played maybe twice ever and the last time they played each other there was in 2008 from memory. I suppose it is only a 500 event so no real incentive to play in it. A friend of mine went a couple of years ago and said the field was very poor

    The FO being pushed by a week hasn't helped this year. But perhaps the real reason is that, with all surfaces playing somewhat more similar recently, players don't feel the need for a proper 'tune up' anymore.


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    dates changed this year but was never big in the last decade with the very top players aside from Murray who would sort of have to attend I suppose

    https://www.queensclub.co.uk/cinch-championships/past-winners-championships/

    Lopez won the last one in 2019 at 37 then went out at Wimbledon in the second round


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    yes the tournament has gone downhill particularly in the past decade. The top players are just not drawn to it, Halle would often have the better field in recent years. Its interesting that Djokovic so rarely plays a warm up event for Wimbledon but has won it 5 times. Even Nadal back when he was doing better at Wimbledon often skipped the warm up events.

    I think players are probably just gassed after the clay season and particularly the players who go deep at the French open. You look at Halle this week though, much stronger field than Queens:

    Federer, Medvedev, Zverev, Rublev, Khachanov, Nishikori, Bautista Agut, Monfils, Felix Alliasime, Goffin.

    Queens is like Murray, Berritini, Shapovalov and then a bunch of much lower ranked players


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,910 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    FAA takes out Fed in 3. Serving was woeful. FAA was hitting the forehand beautifully and Fed kept serving on to it. Strange that FAA gets in one of the top Clay coaches in Uncle Tony, has a horrific clay season, and yet plays really well on his first 2 grass tournaments. Well deserved win.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    doesn't augur well for Wimbledon and having pulled out of the French surely was planning to go deeper here - his next match will be at SW19 according to his schedule


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭klr87


    whiterebel wrote: »
    FAA takes out Fed in 3. Serving was woeful. FAA was hitting the forehand beautifully and Fed kept serving on to it. Strange that FAA gets in one of the top Clay coaches in Uncle Tony, has a horrific clay season, and yet plays really well on his first 2 grass tournaments. Well deserved win.
    glasso wrote: »
    doesn't augur well for Wimbledon and having pulled out of the French surely was planning to go deeper here - his next match will be at SW19 according to his schedule
    Well, that withdrawal definitely did not have the desired affect. FAA is very competent player on grass, IMHO better than the likes of Tsitsipas, Zverev and Medvedev, so this was never going to be easy. The one thing FAA can't seem to do is win a final: he's now 0/8 after losing to Cilic in Stuttgart last week.

    Is two matches on grass enough match practice? Fed isn't the type to go entering a tournament at short notice the week before a slam, although these are unusual circumstances. I'm sure Eastbourne* would love to have him as a wild card next week, but on balance, I think it's quite unlikely. He'll probably play a couple of exhibition matches.

    *Can't see him going to Nadal's back yard in Mallorca ... ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    klr87 wrote: »
    Well, that withdrawal definitely did not have the desired affect. FAA is very competent player on grass, IMHO better than the likes of Tsitsipas, Zverev and Medvedev, so this was never going to be easy. The one thing FAA can't seem to do is win a final: he's now 0/8 after losing to Cilic in Stuttgart last week.

    Is two matches on grass enough match practice? Fed isn't the type to go entering a tournament at short notice the week before a slam, although these are unusual circumstances. I'm sure Eastbourne* would love to have him as a wild card next week, but on balance, I think it's quite unlikely. He'll probably play a couple of exhibition matches.

    *Can't see him going to Nadal's back yard in Mallorca ... ;)

    Depending on the draw of course, but, I reckon Federer is unlikely to get to the second week if he meets anyone decent, he's too old now, plus being out for over a year at his age is massive, had he stayed fit and was playing regularly over the last year I'd have given him a decent shot at getting to the latter stages, but, very hard to see how he can be competitive at Wimbledon this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,649 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    What is the story with Kyrgios? Has he given up? What a waste of talent.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Floppybits wrote: »
    What is the story with Kyrgios? Has he given up? What a waste of talent.

    I think he is playing Mallorca.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,910 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Didn’t he have a neck injury?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Wimbledon tickets go onsale tomorrow at 1pm for anyone interested.
    Need to register by midnight tonight.

    https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/tickets/index.html
    An initial sale of tickets for the public will go live on this page at 1pm on Thursday 17 June, and you must be registered with myWIMBLEDON by midnight BST on Wednesday 16 June in order to access the ticketing platform for the initial sale. Further details on these ticket sales will be published shortly.


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    whiterebel wrote: »
    Didn’t he have a neck injury?

    seems yes - but he also hasn't played any tennis since the AO - just skipped the whole clay court season - when he wasn't injured

    and we know that he's not a big man for the practice

    I used to think that he was a character that brought a bit of colour to the game but sort of hard to care when he doesn't even bother playing.


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