referendum on Covid approach

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:30am #1

Hi, i don't believe in having this lockdown, i suggest we have a referendum on how we approach tackling Covid. with that, can we have a vote on what approach to take instead of being dictated to.
option 4 is what i would go for, this would entail better cleaning in pubs . restroom attendants at busy times, limit numbers in pubs/nightclubs for the next year or two depending on the virus. less travelling around to pubs, book yer pub like a resturant or concert. basically a better public health approach to how pubs operate. i would open everything else up backto normal, but if someone was afraid of the virus or wanted to stay isolated then they can be given the supports to do so(e.g. elderly people with other health concerns)

18-06-2021 1:33am

People that are fully vaccinated have literally just been told they can get back to normal.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:43am

can they go to a nightclub or pub or concert now then ?
people are getting turned back from going to the beach i heard. not much point being told you can go back to normal, when in fact, you can't. there's signs on shops still saying you must wear a mask. i want the mask to be only for a sick person who is spluttering and coughing and is in a public place, to stop them spluttering on others. this would be a generaly public health measure though regardless of covid. people who are sick should be at home though getting better, not in public spreading whatever they have.

jimmycrackcorm · 18-06-2021 2:31am

Look at the UK. They got a headstart on vaccinations but because they jumped the gun on opening-up combined with the delta variant, their hospital numbers are now shooting up and they have to delay fully opening up. At least we are going at a pace that when we do finally open up, we will have the right vaccination numbers to do so.

So op, instead of saying you don't believe in this lockdown, how about telling us how many deaths and ICU numbers you think are acceptable. The lockdown and vaccination combination results are in the numbers.

Maybe your referendum should actually just give a choice of the numbers - let the people vote hunger game style.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 2:40am

it's not a question of how many deaths are acceptable, people can and should be supported if they want to continue to isolate and keep themselves safe.
Cillian De Gascun himself said we've probably over half a million people infected with covid(since the beginning) already in this country.... lockdown didn't work too well there did it?
if only there was a way to measure if people have been infected previously we could actually make informed decisions (there bloody well is)

VinLieger · 18-06-2021 7:51am

Jesus not this garbage again, how many times does it need to be explained referendums are for changing the constitution.

They are not useful in any way for the first binary wedge issue that comes into your head. Brexit is the prime example of why they should not be used in this way.

sydthebeat · 18-06-2021 7:53am

PuddingBreath wrote: »

it's not a question of how many deaths are acceptable, people can and should be supported if they want to continue to isolate and keep themselves safe.
Cillian De Gascun himself said we've probably over half a million people infected with covid(since the beginning) already in this country.... lockdown didn't work too well there did it?
if only there was a way to measure if people have been infected previously we could actually make informed decisions (there bloody well is)

Theres an extreme level of ignorance shown in this post

VinLieger · 18-06-2021 7:56am

Ohh God I just noticed the poll, that is the prime example of why incredibly complex and far reaching issues like this are not suitable for referendum. The poll answers the OP has used are so simplistic versus the real actual consequences each answer might actually have if it were to be implemented.

robbiezero · 18-06-2021 8:02am

Deleted User wrote: »

People that are fully vaccinated have literally just been told they can get back to normal.

Is that true?
I thought even vaccinated people are still limited in the number of people they can meet indoors?

Not that anyone would pay any heed to that rubbish.

ineedeuro · 18-06-2021 8:08am

PuddingBreath wrote: »

it's not a question of how many deaths are acceptable, people can and should be supported if they want to continue to isolate and keep themselves safe.
Cillian De Gascun himself said we've probably over half a million people infected with covid(since the beginning) already in this country.... lockdown didn't work too well there did it?
if only there was a way to measure if people have been infected previously we could actually make informed decisions (there bloody well is)

People are idiots. If anything this pandemic has proved that.

You seem to be listening to a load of gossip and rumours, then think it is real. The title of this thread is to have a referendum, to carry out a referendum you will have to move millions of people in a short space of time to a confined area to cast a vote on how to stop the spread of a virus, a virus which spreads in the exact environment you have just moved the entire population into.

Do you spot any problem here?

whippet · 18-06-2021 8:34am

Putting public health policy in the hands of people who studied at the ‘school of hard knocks’ and got their PHDs from facebook and YouTube ..... sure what could go wrong.

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 8:38am

Before I vote OP, can you tell us what you do for a living and your educational background?

Nozebleed · 18-06-2021 8:43am

Deleted User wrote: »

People that are fully vaccinated have literally just been told they can get back to normal.

yeh i read that yesterday..laughable really. when you think about it...being vaccinated makes little difference, you still carry the virus, you can still infect others. but yet you can go about your life hastle free.

People who have had the disease/virus or currently have the virus and are infectious should be in lockdown/quarantine. All healthy people who never had the virus should be going about there business as normal.

pepole need to wake up and demand answers..the true numbers of covid deaths and where the virus originated.

The J Stands for Jay · 18-06-2021 8:47am

Smee_Again wrote: »

Before I vote OP, can you tell us what you do for a living and your educational background?

Full time mad bastard.

Dempo1 · 18-06-2021 8:48am

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Hi, i don't believe in having this lockdown, i suggest we have a referendum on how we approach tackling Covid. with that, can we have a vote on what approach to take instead of being dictated to.
option 4 is what i would go for, this would entail better cleaning in pubs . restroom attendants at busy times, limit numbers in pubs/nightclubs for the next year or two depending on the virus. less travelling around to pubs, book yer pub like a resturant or concert. basically a better public health approach to how pubs operate. i would open everything else up backto normal, but if someone was afraid of the virus or wanted to stay isolated then they can be given the supports to do so(e.g. elderly people with other health concerns)

What Lockdown? There is no longer a lockdown? There is certainly restrictions, indoor pub, restaurants, numbers attending sporting fixtures but certainly no lockdown, besides even if there was, I'm not sure a referendum would be practical, emergency Public Health measures will always trump any current or new constitutional legislation / Clauses /laws, they already have and will continue to do so.

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 8:53am

McGaggs wrote: »

Full time mad bastard.

I thought they were all made redundant in 2008?

ineedeuro · 18-06-2021 9:00am

Nozebleed wrote: »

yeh i read that yesterday..laughable really. when you think about it...being vaccinated makes little difference, you still carry the virus, you can still infect others. but yet you can go about your life hastle free.

People who have had the disease/virus or currently have the virus and are infectious should be in lockdown/quarantine. All healthy people who never had the virus should be going about there business as normal.

pepole need to wake up and demand answers..the true numbers of covid deaths and where the virus originated.

Im sure on the local facebook group you can get ALL of these questions answered.

Nozebleed · 18-06-2021 9:01am

Dempo1 wrote: »

What Lockdown? There is no longer a lockdown? There is certainly restrictions, indoor pub, restaurants, numbers attending sporting fixtures but certainly no lockdown, besides even if there was, I'm not sure a referendum would be practical, emergency Public Health measures will always trump any current or new constitutional legislation / Clauses /laws, they already have and will continue to do so.

what lockdown? are you for real. funny enough i feel the same about the virus. what virus?...i never got the virus,dont know anyone who did.

Dempo1 · 18-06-2021 9:23am

Nozebleed wrote: »

what lockdown? are you for real. funny enough i feel the same about the virus. what virus?...i never got the virus,dont know anyone who did.

Can you explain what exactly is Locked Down at the moment? Serious question, I'm not doubting there are still some restrictions but Lockdowns? The country has re opened unless I've been missing something over the past month, the ludicrous comparison to "what Virus" is bizzare, I've asked a simple enough question of the OP, this Lockdown? What Lockdown?

Larbre34 · 18-06-2021 10:58am

What a stupid question. The legislation and statutory instruments that frame the last year's pandemic restrictions aren't in the Constitution, so why would we need or want a referendum on them?

We elect a parliament every 5 years to legislate on our behalf, that's your referendum.

But then you already knew that because you're trolling. Multiple vexatious threads so far.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 12:27pm

ineedeuro wrote: »

People are idiots. If anything this pandemic has proved that.

You seem to be listening to a load of gossip and rumours, then think it is real. The title of this thread is to have a referendum, to carry out a referendum you will have to move millions of people in a short space of time to a confined area to cast a vote on how to stop the spread of a virus, a virus which spreads in the exact environment you have just moved the entire population into.

Do you spot any problem here?

Nope, it's summer, there's plans to have open air concert for 75000 people in other countries in Europe but we can't manage to form an orderly, socially distanced queue to vote ? Usual Irish uselessness, no offense to you but everything here is the art of how not to do things and faff around. Why would you need people to cram inside somewhere to vote? There's no marquees/canopies etc in the country that could be put up to do open air voting? could you not have the referendum over a couple of days and have a postal system also?

ineedeuro · 18-06-2021 12:31pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Nope, it's summer, there's plans to have open air concert for 75000 people in other countries in Europe but we can't manage to form an orderly, socially distanced queue to vote ? Usual Irish uselessness, no offense to you but everything here is the art of how not to do things and faff around. Why would you need people to cram inside somewhere to vote? There's no marquees/canopies etc in the country that could be put up to do open air voting? could you not have the referendum over a couple of days and have a postal system also?

Why would you risk it just to please a couple of people? plus it costs million to run a referendum which to be honest is better spent elsewhere.

Plans for other countries? why do we care what other countries are doing. Look how fantastic the UK was doing till they got swamped again this week.

if you are so unhappy move away, based on your posts you are young so pack up and head off. I have done my travelling but if I was young I would have been gone 14 months ago to Aus....

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 12:38pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Can you explain what exactly is Locked Down at the moment? Serious question, I'm not doubting there are still some restrictions but Lockdowns? The country has re opened unless I've been missing something over the past month, the ludicrous comparison to "what Virus" is bizzare, I've asked a simple enough question of the OP, this Lockdown? What Lockdown?

I went into a store (interior decorating type) a week or two ago, there was a sign supposedly saying two per household only, missed it tbh.
There was more than two of us. The person in the store mentioned it in passing but didn't make us leave some of the family outside. My OH was very upset it was brought up even, we didn't consider spending our money there in the end because of it. The other members of our family are smallies, we're we supposed to leave them in the car? Has covid killed all the paedophiles now on top of stamping out flu? That's a great virus. Has covid made it safe to leave your kids unattended in a car now? No lockdown/restrictions you say? Splitting hairs is all you are doing? Bloody farcical.
Oh, we didn't go to the beach last weekend but had been planning to, any beach is over an hour away, if we had we would have been turned back. I WANT AN END TO ALL THIS CRAP AND IF YOU DON'T STAY AT HOME AND WRAP YOURSELF IN PLASTIC AND A GAS MASK

18-06-2021 12:39pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

I went into a store (interior decorating type) a week or two ago, there was a sign supposedly saying two per household only, missed it tbh.
There was more than two of us. The person in the store mentioned it in passing but didn't make us leave some of the family outside. My OH was very upset it was brought up even, we didn't consider spending our money there in the end because of it. The other members of our family are smallies, we're we supposed to leave them in the car? Has covid killed all the paedophiles now on top of stamping out flu? That's a great virus. Has covid made it safe to leave your kids unattended in a car now? No lockdown/restrictions you say? Splitting hairs is all you are doing? Bloody farcical.

Jesus Christ

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 12:43pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

I went into a store (interior decorating type) a week or two ago, there was a sign supposedly saying two per household only, missed it tbh.
There was more than two of us. The person in the store mentioned it in passing but didn't make us leave some of the family outside. My OH was very upset it was brought up even, we didn't consider spending our money there in the end because of it. The other members of our family are smallies, we're we supposed to leave them in the car? Has covid killed all the paedophiles now on top of stamping out flu? That's a great virus. Has covid made it safe to leave your kids unattended in a car now? No lockdown/restrictions you say? Splitting hairs is all you are doing? Bloody farcical.
Oh, we didn't go to the beach last weekend but had been planning to, any beach is over an hour away, if we had we would have been turned back. I WANT AN END TO ALL THIS CRAP AND IF YOU DON'T STAY AT HOME AND WRAP YOURSELF IN PLASTIC AND A GAS MASK

You seem like a reasonable person.

ineedeuro · 18-06-2021 12:45pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

I went into a store (interior decorating type) a week or two ago, there was a sign supposedly saying two per household only, missed it tbh.
There was more than two of us. The person in the store mentioned it in passing but didn't make us leave some of the family outside. My OH was very upset it was brought up even, we didn't consider spending our money there in the end because of it. The other members of our family are smallies, we're we supposed to leave them in the car? Has covid killed all the paedophiles now on top of stamping out flu? That's a great virus. Has covid made it safe to leave your kids unattended in a car now? No lockdown/restrictions you say? Splitting hairs is all you are doing? Bloody farcical.
Oh, we didn't go to the beach last weekend but had been planning to, any beach is over an hour away, if we had we would have been turned back. I WANT AN END TO ALL THIS CRAP AND IF YOU DON'T STAY AT HOME AND WRAP YOURSELF IN PLASTIC AND A GAS MASK

They should have threw the lot of you out of the shop.
Do you have no consideration for the people working in the shop? did your wife consider them?

Why would you leave kids in car on own when two of you are shopping?

seamus · 18-06-2021 12:48pm

Funny, I thought lockdown ended a number of weeks ago. I can leave my home, my town, my county, for any reason and go anywhere I like, for any reason.

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 12:51pm

OSI wrote: »

Who the **** takes young kids "interior decorating type" shopping?

Who the hell goes into a store?

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:02pm

ineedeuro wrote: »

Why would you risk it just to please a couple of people? plus it costs million to run a referendum which to be honest is better spent elsewhere.

Plans for other countries? why do we care what other countries are doing. Look how fantastic the UK was doing till they got swamped again this week.

if you are so unhappy move away, based on your posts you are young so pack up and head off. I have done my travelling but if I was young I would have been gone 14 months ago to Aus....

What couple of people? Currently 42% of people on this poll don't agree with covid. I know plenty who are sick of the restrictions and want it ended.

I'm not young, just immature I guess. It great you have time to be reading all my posts? Where do you find the time and what is your motivation?

It's great to come on boards to discuss things only to get attacks from the likes of you constantly. I won't be moving away from all my loved ones thank you very much, up yours buddy. I'd rather you move away with your rude statements.

As for what I care about other countries? There's a certain cohort in this country that love to cherry pick what they learn from our European neighbours. Tony holohan for example doesn't trust antigen testing cos he knows better than loads of other more advanced countries. We know better on health and homelessness I guess to because we learn nothing from others who have far better systems.

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 1:03pm

What do you mean agree with covid? I didn't know it was sentient and capable of thought.

Dempo1 · 18-06-2021 1:04pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

I went into a store (interior decorating type) a week or two ago, there was a sign supposedly saying two per household only, missed it tbh.
There was more than two of us. The person in the store mentioned it in passing but didn't make us leave some of the family outside. My OH was very upset it was brought up even, we didn't consider spending our money there in the end because of it. The other members of our family are smallies, we're we supposed to leave them in the car? Has covid killed all the paedophiles now on top of stamping out flu? That's a great virus. Has covid made it safe to leave your kids unattended in a car now? No lockdown/restrictions you say? Splitting hairs is all you are doing? Bloody farcical.
Oh, we didn't go to the beach last weekend but had been planning to, any beach is over an hour away, if we had we would have been turned back. I WANT AN END TO ALL THIS CRAP AND IF YOU DON'T STAY AT HOME AND WRAP YOURSELF IN PLASTIC AND A GAS MASK

You seem quite perturbed to be honest, why are you bringing paedophilia into this discussion, really disturbing to be blunt, I've stated there are continuing restrictions but at the same time asked Where's the lockdown, a question that clearly escapes you. There is no current lockdown just restrictions, I've expressed zero opinion on this matter on this thread.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:05pm

Smee_Again wrote: »

You seem like a reasonable person.

Not at the moment I'm not, I'm very unreasonable. Thanks for the snide comment. Ya can't win with you people, always a smart answer in your circular logic. To go pick out something for the house I need to leave my little kids unattended in a car or leave them with someone, potentially spreading the virus?

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 1:07pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Not at the moment I'm not, I'm very unreasonable. Thanks for the snide comment. Ya can't win with you people, always a smart answer in your circular logic. To go pick out something for the house I need to leave my little kids unattended in a car or leave them with someone, potentially spreading the virus?

But you don't believe in covid, (or the need for restrictions or whatever your opinion is) so you should be fine with leaving them with someone.

Either the restrictions are needed or they're not, you seem to be arguing both sides depending on your point.

So not only are you unreasonable, you're also not making sense.

ineedeuro · 18-06-2021 1:10pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Not at the moment I'm not, I'm very unreasonable. Thanks for the snide comment. Ya can't win with you people, always a smart answer in your circular logic. To go pick out something for the house I need to leave my little kids unattended in a car or leave them with someone, potentially spreading the virus?

:P
Seriously you need two people to pick something out for the house?
If that is the case one walks in with looks around, find anything they like just facetime the person in the car

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:11pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

You seem quite perturbed to be honest, why are you bringing paedophilia into this discussion, really disturbing to be blunt, I've stated there are continuing restrictions but at the same time asked Where's the lockdown, a question that clearly escapes you. There is no current lockdown just restrictions, I've expressed zero opinion on this matter on this thread.

Yes, I am perturbed. Am I supposed to leave small children in a car unattended in a public place? Is it not a parent's job to keep their kids safe in public? If you cannot get to a beach, cannot go for a meal in a restaurant, cannot sit in a pub, cannot go on a foreign holiday and so on and on then what do you call it? FFS ya can't find an open toilet now in loads of places, further curtailing travel. Officially there may not be a lockdown but in practice there's loads of hurdles put in people's way to get back to normal

ineedeuro · 18-06-2021 1:12pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Yes, I am perturbed. Am I supposed to leave small children in a car unattended in a public place? Is it not a parent's job to keep their kids safe in public? If you cannot get to a beach, cannot go for a meal in a restaurant, cannot sit in a pub, cannot go on a foreign holiday and so on and on then what do you call it? FFS ya can't find an open toilet now in loads of places, further curtailing travel. Officially there may not be a lockdown but in practice there's loads of hurdles put in people's way to get back to normal

No you dont leave kids in car unattended but you also dont bring them into a shop when you are warned not to.
You keep mentioning the beech, I have gone multiple times to the beech without a problem.

Bringing young kids to a pub?

It seems you only consider yourself and nobody else. Will leave you to it.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:16pm

Smee_Again wrote: »

But you don't believe in covid, (or the need for restrictions or whatever your opinion is) so you should be fine with leaving them with someone.

Either the restrictions are needed or they're not, you seem to be arguing both sides depending on your point.

So not only are you unreasonable, you're also not making sense.

I can't just leave them with someone, that other someone might have concerns. If you do and someone gets"symptoms" then people have to restrict their movements. I follow there rules, I just don't agree with them. The restrictions are there, so they have to be followed. Same as if I don't agree with a speed limit non a road, I still have to stick to it. I pay a TV licence and ...

HalfAndHalf · 18-06-2021 1:17pm

I had to check there wasn’t a previous post that got carried over!

I’m not sure what the point of this question is now after 16 months of lockdowns and now so far into vaccinations.

Also think the option of the Army creating a border on the island is ridiculous to the point of being laughable.

What exactly are you trying to ascertain 16 months after the event?

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 1:19pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Yes, I am perturbed. Am I supposed to leave small children in a car unattended in a public place? Is it not a parent's job to keep their kids safe in public? If you cannot get to a beach, cannot go for a meal in a restaurant, cannot sit in a pub, cannot go on a foreign holiday and so on and on then what do you call it? FFS ya can't find an open toilet now in loads of places, further curtailing travel. Officially there may not be a lockdown but in practice there's loads of hurdles put in people's way to get back to normal

I'm literally about to go for a run along a beach, there's nothing stopping you from going to a beach.

Smee_Again · 18-06-2021 1:24pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

I can't just leave them with someone, that other someone might have concerns. If you do and someone gets"symptoms" then people have to restrict their movements. I follow there rules, I just don't agree with them. The restrictions are there, so they have to be followed. Same as if I don't agree with a speed limit non a road, I still have to stick to it. I pay a TV licence and ...

If you follow the rules then why were you getting all prissy about the shop doing the same?

Actually, they didn't follow the rules and allowed you and your kids in the shop and you still got prissy.

Then you say you can't leave the kids with someone because they may develop symptoms. But also, that restrictions aren't needed so how could they develop symptoms.

So which is it? Follow the rules or don't follow them? Restrictions are needed or they aren't?

Don't bother answering, it's clear you're determined to be outraged about something and will ignore any and all logic in order to do so.

Dempo1 · 18-06-2021 1:43pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Yes, I am perturbed. Am I supposed to leave small children in a car unattended in a public place? Is it not a parent's job to keep their kids safe in public? If you cannot get to a beach, cannot go for a meal in a restaurant, cannot sit in a pub, cannot go on a foreign holiday and so on and on then what do you call it? FFS ya can't find an open toilet now in loads of places, further curtailing travel. Officially there may not be a lockdown but in practice there's loads of hurdles put in people's way to get back to normal

You are not at all required to leave your children unattended in a public space, what are you talking about? , if you did such a thing, that would be your decision, no one else's and your responsibility and I might add would be disturbing and Reckless, I'm not getting how your equating restrictions to child Abandonment, it's beyond absurd. I can understand anyone's frustration at the past year but seriously!!

Dempo1 · 18-06-2021 1:44pm

Smee_Again wrote: »

I'm literally about to go for a run along a beach, there's nothing stopping you from going to a beach.

God, I think I'll join you

I'm just flabbergasted at this stage

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 1:45pm

McGaggs wrote: »

Full time mad bastard.

Sorry man, I wasn't supposed to reply that to you.

VinLieger · 18-06-2021 2:11pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

What couple of people? Currently 42% of people on this poll don't agree with covid. I know plenty who are sick of the restrictions and want it ended.

Sure why do we even need to have a referendum so? Lets just base all our future public policy decisions off of completely unbiased, neutral and 100% secure internet polls.

PuddingBreath wrote: »

It's great to come on boards to discuss things only to get attacks from the likes of you constantly. I won't be moving away from all my loved ones thank you very much, up yours buddy. I'd rather you move away with your rude statements.

LOL but you don't want a discussion you want people to agree with you and tell you how smart you are. You might be better off on twitter or maybe even parler considering the other guff your spouting

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Yes, I am perturbed. Am I supposed to leave small children in a car unattended in a public place? Is it not a parent's job to keep their kids safe in public?

LOL your actually blaming others for your poor decision making of bringing kids interior decorating shopping.

PuddingBreath wrote: »

If you cannot get to a beach, cannot go for a meal in a restaurant, cannot sit in a pub, cannot go on a foreign holiday and so on and on then what do you call it?

Ive been to several beaches since county restrictions lifted, im going to a restaurant tomorrow night and ive been to a pub several times to.

You can absolutely go on a foreign holiday, its not advised to do so and you will probably have to quarantine when you get back. Also its up to the destination country on whether your allowed in or not so you have a beef with them also in this regard.

PuddingBreath wrote: »

FFS ya can't find an open toilet now in loads of places, further curtailing travel. Officially there may not be a lockdown but in practice there's loads of hurdles put in people's way to get back to normal

The lack of toilets has nothing to do with lockdown blame the councils for pushing their responsibilities for providing a public service onto private businesses.

There literally is not a lockdown in place anymore.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 2:12pm

ineedeuro wrote: »

No you dont leave kids in car unattended but you also dont bring them into a shop when you are warned not to.
You keep mentioning the beech, I have gone multiple times to the beech without a problem.

Bringing young kids to a pub?

It seems you only consider yourself and nobody else. Will leave you to it.

A.Wasn't warned, only shop I've seen with that rule.
B. I don't have as much free time as you, so it would have been the second time we got to a beach, the last time we went a couple of weeks ago the beach we attended had the public toilets closed, so we can't go back there again. Busier beaches we were planning on attending this time had the guards turning people back.
C.i never talked about bringing kids to the pub, that's your imagination. I'm talking about people who want to go to the pub, I've not got the time.
D. See answer C.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 2:14pm

VinLieger wrote: »

Sure why do we even need to have a referendum so? Lets just base all our future public policy decisions off of completely unbiased, neutral and 100% secure internet polls.

LOL but you don't want a discussion you want people to agree with you and tell you how smart you are. You might be better off on twitter or maybe even parler considering the other guff your spouting

LOL your actually blaming others for your poor decision making of bringing kids interior decorating shopping.

Ive been to several beaches since county restrictions lifted, im going to a restaurant tomorrow night and ive been to a pub several times to.

You can absolutely go on a foreign holiday, its not advised to do so and you will probably have to quarantine when you get back. Also its up to the destination country on whether your allowed in or not so you have a beef with them also in this regard.

The lack of toilets has nothing to do with lockdown blame the councils for pushing their responsibilities for providing a public service onto private businesses.

There literally is not a lockdown in place anymore.

VinLieger wrote: »

Sure why do we even need to have a referendum so? Lets just base all our future public policy decisions off of completely unbiased, neutral and 100% secure internet polls.

LOL but you don't want a discussion you want people to agree with you and tell you how smart you are. You might be better off on twitter or maybe even parler considering the other guff your spouting

LOL your actually blaming others for your poor decision making of bringing kids interior decorating shopping.

Ive been to several beaches since county restrictions lifted, im going to a restaurant tomorrow night and ive been to a pub several times to.

Private businesses that previously had their toilets open now have them closed.
More insults, good lad.
You can't go on a holiday if you have to quarantine when you get back.
I've put up a poll, answer it, have manners. Or don't bother with it. But you people just carry on and on with the attacks and insults and call it a discussion.
Are you the type of people that think people like David McWilliams should "go and commit suicide" back in 2007/08.

Calahonda52 · 18-06-2021 2:14pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

A.Wasn't warned, only shop I've seen with that rule.
B. I don't have as much free time as you, so it would have been the second time we got to a beach, the last time we went a couple of weeks ago the beach we attended had the public toilets closed, so we can't go back there again. Busier beaches we were planning on attending this time had the guards turning people back.
C.i never talked about bringing kids to the pub, that's your imagination. I'm talking about people who want to go to the pub, I've not got the time.
D. See answer C.

Well based on this half brained thread at 01:30 , coupled with your one at 01: 27 on sacking TK, I beg to differ.

VinLieger · 18-06-2021 2:17pm

PuddingBreath wrote: »

Private businesses that previously had their toilets open now have them closed.

Yes so your issue is with councils not providing adequate public toilets.

Any thoughts on the rest of my post?

18-06-2021 2:22pm

Nozebleed wrote: »

what lockdown? are you for real. funny enough i feel the same about the virus. what virus?...i never got the virus,dont know anyone who did.

That’s because of the lockdown.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 2:24pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Well based on this half brained thread at 01:30 , coupled with your one at 01: 27 on sacking TK, I beg to differ.

Good lad, carry on with the insults. You're a credit to boards.ie
You could just answer it, or not.

PuddingBreath · 18-06-2021 2:25pm

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

I had to check there wasn’t a previous post that got carried over!

I’m not sure what the point of this question is now after 16 months of lockdowns and now so far into vaccinations.

Also think the option of the Army creating a border on the island is ridiculous to the point of being laughable.

What exactly are you trying to ascertain 16 months after the event?

It was done for foot and mouth.. just asking a question.

referendum on Covid approach

referendum on ending lockdown 69 votes

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