Guardian of the Deise Statue

friendlyfun · 17-06-2021 3:01pm #1

So the statue of the large Viking would cost about 18 million according to Sculptor John Hayes. What do you think about it? Would it be a good idea?

Wanderer78 · 17-06-2021 3:08pm

think id rather see it going into other more critical needs such as housing tbh

BBM77 · 17-06-2021 3:12pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

So the statue of the large Viking would cost about 18 million according to Sculptor John Hayes. What do you think about it? Would it be a good idea?

Actually, not a huge fan to be honest. Agree with the whole concept of creating an attraction and don’t really have a problem with the €18m price tag, you have to spend money to make money. But a 200m tall statue! Think it might be like the Spire in Dublin, just does not look right in its surroundings.

spaceCreated · 17-06-2021 7:13pm

Bit much tbh, if we want to attract more tourists I think we'd do better building out a few branches of the greenway to the Comeraghs, Dunmore East and up around ring to Ardmore, build some high quality camping and caravan sites as well. Probably cost less than the 18 million proposed as well. It would also give the people who are already in the county more options.

17-06-2021 10:03pm

It would have to be a camp figure though, not to be offensive and all inclusive

especially with all that going on in the city at the moment!

:D:D

The figure couldn't, opps, shouldn't be a male figure and they should

carry a bag and not a sword. Promoting violence!!!

:D:D

Any other ridiculous suggestions that I might have missed?

17-06-2021 10:10pm

Would look badass.

PTH2009 · 17-06-2021 10:33pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would look badass.

Truly would, is it going where jury's is ?

17-06-2021 10:38pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Truly would, is it going where jury's is ?

The Guardian of The Deise in Kilkenny!!!

Wanderer78 · 18-06-2021 10:15am

id rather see this chap do something, and im sure it would be a fraction of the price, and better

https://specialbranchcarvers.com/

Wanderer2010 · 18-06-2021 10:45am

Surely 18 million would be much better spent on investment into cardiac care, employment and local festivals, rather than some statue pointing at a city with no North Quays or anything really worth pointing at. Bizzare to spend that much money on a figurehead.

Muttley79 · 18-06-2021 11:15am

Don't know who will win spoofer of the year award this year rob Cass or john Hayes.18 million ffs!!what planet are they on,will probably climb to double that price when it's finished.this story has been regurgitated the last four years now.last I heard about this sculpture was in some competition to win funding.it obviously didn't win it.i think 18 million would go a long way towards the natural tourist resources we already have and maybe put money aside for the airport or build a cruise ship terminal to attract as much tourists as we can into this city/region

Mugser · 18-06-2021 11:23am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id rather see this chap do something, and im sure it would be a fraction of the price, and better

https://specialbranchcarvers.com/

Same fella :rolleyes:

Gardner · 18-06-2021 11:32am

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Surely 18 million would be much better spent on investment into cardiac care, employment and local festivals, rather than some statue pointing at a city with no North Quays or anything really worth pointing at. Bizzare to spend that much money on a figurehead.

this argument again. you do realize different governmental departments have different budgets. it doesn't all come from 1 central budget.

Gardner · 18-06-2021 11:33am

Muttley79 wrote: »

Don't know who will win spoofer of the year award this year rob Cass or john Hayes.18 million ffs!!what planet are they on,will probably climb to double that price when it's finished.this story has been regurgitated the last four years now.last I heard about this sculpture was in some competition to win funding.it obviously didn't win it.i think 18 million would go a long way towards the natural tourist resources we already have and maybe put money aside for the airport or build a cruise ship terminal to attract as much tourists as we can into this city/region

No Rob is going for 5 in a row.

Gardner · 18-06-2021 11:40am

spaceCreated wrote: »

Bit much tbh, if we want to attract more tourists I think we'd do better building out a few branches of the greenway to the Comeraghs, Dunmore East and up around ring to Ardmore, build some high quality camping and caravan sites as well. Probably cost less than the 18 million proposed as well. It would also give the people who are already in the county more options.

This is spot on.

Again, would take a lot of effort because funding would need to be drawn down from different departments but its the way forward for Tourism in Waterford outside of the Viking Triangle. An example, when compared west Cork and Kerry, the amount of motorhomes in designated spots and wild parking, they all spend money in local shops and businesses while the local council or private sector charge a fee per night.
Ardmore thrives off the amount of motorhomes in Dick's field. There is over 100 campers there at present and all shops / restaurants / pubs are packed

Wanderer78 · 18-06-2021 11:54am

Mugser wrote: »

Same fella :rolleyes:

18 million, get ta fcuk! wont happen anyway

friendlyfun · 19-06-2021 9:09am

Muttley79 wrote: »

Don't know who will win spoofer of the year award this year rob Cass or john Hayes.18 million ffs!!what planet are they on,will probably climb to double that price when it's finished.this story has been regurgitated the last four years now.last I heard about this sculpture was in some competition to win funding.it obviously didn't win it.i think 18 million would go a long way towards the natural tourist resources we already have and maybe put money aside for the airport or build a cruise ship terminal to attract as much tourists as we can into this city/region

Bit unfair on John. He's actually delivered for Waterford at least with his beautiful art work. While I'm not sure about the project itself I think his heart is in the right place and a man that genuinely love his county.

Muttley79 · 19-06-2021 1:00pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

Bit unfair on John. He's actually delivered for Waterford at least with his beautiful art work. While I'm not sure about the project itself I think his heart is in the right place and a man that genuinely love his county.

Yes I know john myself personally and id have no bother telling him my point of view.yes both john Hayes and James Doyle of special branch carvings delivered a wonderful experience to the Viking triangle but john is deluded in thinking 18million in private investment of a viking structure to waterford is going to happen,who let's face it vikings weren't exactly the good guys when they first arrived to these shores.they raped,pillaged and used Irish for slave trade

Wanderer2010 · 19-06-2021 2:21pm

Waterford currently doesnt need this statue, its a bit embarrassing to have such an elaborate structure at the entrance to the city when there is such an obvious lack of outstanding facilities or attractions in the immediate surroundings. The North Quays are history, we have no airport, no university, poor cardiac care, a city that closes at 6pm and high unemployment.
Its akin to closing all the casinos in Vegas, then erecting a massive fancy billboard on the city limits pointing to all the attractions within. A total waste of money.

19-06-2021 2:24pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Surely 18 million would be much better spent on investment into cardiac care, employment and local festivals, rather than some statue pointing at a city with no North Quays or anything really worth pointing at. Bizzare to spend that much money on a figurehead.

18M is a drop in the ocean. We wouldn’t ever build anything “unpractical” with that attitude.

killbillvol2 · 19-06-2021 3:08pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Waterford currently doesnt need this statue, its a bit embarrassing to have such an elaborate structure at the entrance to the city when there is such an obvious lack of outstanding facilities or attractions in the immediate surroundings. The North Quays are history, we have no airport, no university, poor cardiac care, a city that closes at 6pm and high unemployment.
Its akin to closing all the casinos in Vegas, then erecting a massive fancy billboard on the city limits pointing to all the attractions within. A total waste of money.

I was talking to a few tourists yesterday who are here for the weekend from Dublin. Strangely, they didn't seem to give a sh1te that we didn't have a university, certainly weren't concerned about the lack of an airport, and were unaware that the city closed at 6pm given that every outdoor space was full of people enjoying themselves well into the evening.

They were looking forward to visiting some of our excellent coastal attractions today and had travelled the Greenway on their previous visit.

Maybe you'd be happy if we put a talking statue on the bridge pointing out the city's shortcomings?

Wanderer2010 · 19-06-2021 3:31pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I was talking to a few tourists yesterday who are here for the weekend from Dublin. Strangely, they didn't seem to give a sh1te that we didn't have a university, certainly weren't concerned about the lack of an airport, and were unaware that the city closed at 6pm given that every outdoor space was full of people enjoying themselves well into the evening.

They were looking forward to visiting some of our excellent coastal attractions today and had travelled the Greenway on their previous visit.

Maybe you'd be happy if we put a talking statue on the bridge pointing out the city's shortcomings?

Its out of proportion to what the city has to offer, seems like a vanity project to boost the ego of the creator and has no place here. Just like the Spire in Dublin- completely pointless.

spaceCreated · 19-06-2021 3:32pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I was talking to a few tourists yesterday who are here for the weekend from Dublin. Strangely, they didn't seem to give a sh1te that we didn't have a university, certainly weren't concerned about the lack of an airport, and were unaware that the city closed at 6pm given that every outdoor space was full of people enjoying themselves well into the evening.

They were looking forward to visiting some of our excellent coastal attractions today and had travelled the Greenway on their previous visit.

Maybe you'd be happy if we put a talking statue on the bridge pointing out the city's shortcomings?

Nothing like popping down to Waterford from Dublin for a quick break only to be interrogated on the status of third level education in the South East and the state of the airport and the quizzed on what they were doing here :rolleyes:

killbillvol2 · 19-06-2021 5:49pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

Nothing like popping down to Waterford from Dublin for a quick break only to be interrogated on the status of third level education in the South East and the state of the airport and the quizzed on what they were doing here :rolleyes:

I kind of knew what they were doing here as I'd worked with them for 20 odd years.

friendlyfun · 19-06-2021 6:45pm

The statue would be 50 feet taller than the statue of Liberty

spaceCreated · 19-06-2021 7:27pm

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I kind of knew what they were doing here as I'd worked with them for 20 odd years.

Whoosh

kuang1 · 19-06-2021 11:08pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Its out of proportion to what the city has to offer, seems like a vanity project to boost the ego of the creator and has no place here. Just like the Spire in Dublin- completely pointless.

V good!

new92 · 20-06-2021 2:28pm

Unless it's a gift, to honour some good we've done, or a spoil from a war we've won, I don't favour having a big statue. The fact that it's to be a viking makes it even less desirable. We are Viking heavy.

aziz · 20-06-2021 3:37pm

It’s more of a Shelbyville idea

spaceCreated · 20-06-2021 4:41pm

new92 wrote: »

Unless it's a gift, to honour some good we've done, or a spoil from a war we've won, I don't favour having a big statue. The fact that it's to be a viking makes it even less desirable. We are Viking heavy.

I propose we should spend the money outfitting some proper longboats and start pillaging the Cornish coast, we can bring back brexiteers and put them to work on building several statues

new92 · 20-06-2021 5:32pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

I propose we should spend the money outfitting some proper longboats and start pillaging the Cornish coast, we can bring back brexiteers and put them to work on building several statues

100%

friendlyfun · 21-06-2021 10:36am

Bring back the Deise colonies in Wales I say. #MakeWaterfordGreatAgain

Boooourns · 22-06-2021 12:54pm

Build a massive blaa with a huge red lead slide coming from jurys down to the clock tower. Could land in a massive pool of taytos crisps at the end.

Wanderer2010 · 22-06-2021 2:28pm

Boooourns wrote: »

Build a massive blaa with a huge red lead slide coming from jurys down to the clock tower. Could land in a massive pool of taytos crisps at the end.

Red lead??

SeanieW1977 · 22-06-2021 4:40pm

This whole thing is a load self indulgent fantasy.

It should be just put into the complete waste of time bucket.

Nice idea, not practical - doesn’t merit a further minutes time wasted on it.

whisky_galore · 22-06-2021 4:46pm

Reminds me of those tacky Big Things you get on the roadsides in Australia or their counterparts in the States.
Paul Bunyans or Big Sheep/Big Fruit and such like. Or the USSR creations.

Rustyman101 · 22-06-2021 5:07pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Red lead??

Are you from Waterford & dont know what red lead is ? Or maybe I'm being disingenuous & it's an age thing ðŸ€” you have to be a certain vintage !

Finnbar01 · 22-06-2021 6:11pm

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Red lead??

Also called Luncheon roll or Ballybeg Ham.

Wanderer2010 · 22-06-2021 7:57pm

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Also called Luncheon roll or Ballybeg Ham.

Never heard of it, thanks!!

niallo76 · 29-06-2021 9:47am

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Never heard of it, thanks!!

its what we were reared on...

Yellow_Fern · 03-07-2021 9:01am

While we talking Viking, isnt about time we restore the name of Waterford to its native name and decolonise from the Ostmen.

deise121 · 05-07-2021 12:06pm

how the **** does a statue cost 18 million euro??

spaceCreated · 05-07-2021 6:16pm

deise121 wrote: »

how the **** does a statue cost 18 million euro??

Breathes fire, rotates to follow the sun and will squash Brendan Howlin if he crosses in to Waterford

deise121 · 05-07-2021 6:29pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

Breathes fire, rotates to follow the sun and will squash Brendan Howlin if he crosses in to Waterford

can it also ram henry shefflin up the hole if he crosses the quay river?

aziz · 05-07-2021 8:00pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

Breathes fire, rotates to follow the sun and will squash Brendan Howlin if he crosses in to Waterford

Worth every penny then

greenspurs · 06-07-2021 8:55am

deise121 wrote: »

can it also ram henry shefflin up the hole if he crosses the quay river?

Yee couldnt touch him on the field....

#23Points #2008

gw80 · 06-07-2021 12:26pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

Breathes fire, rotates to follow the sun and will squash Brendan Howlin if he crosses in to Waterford

And have him holding the decapitated head of Phil Hogan in one of his hands.

spaceCreated · 06-07-2021 1:43pm

greenspurs wrote: »

Yee couldnt touch him on the field....

#23Points #2008

I think we should spend an extra 5 million so it can hunt down greenspurs

greenspurs · 06-07-2021 3:22pm

spaceCreated wrote: »

I think we should spend an extra 5 million so it can hunt down greenspurs

go halves, and i'll tell you where i am ................

vriesmays · 06-08-2021 1:02pm

It's a statue of a white elephant they need.

Flow Motion · 13-08-2021 4:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117539710#Comment_117539710

Twas a vivid shade of fluorescent pink IIRC. Additives galore; much of which are probably banned these days. Yet I am still standing.

Guardian of the Deise Statue

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