New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

ILoveYourVibes · 17-06-2021 11:17AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Can anyone imagine a new media organisation with a leftwing liberal slant being set up and conservative people lobbying companies not to advertise with them? I can only attribute such a campaign to fear.

Actually the whole take a knee thing ...conservatives tried to get people and companies to boycott the NFL.

https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-boycott-brands-keurig-nfl-starbucks-2017-11?r=US&IR=T

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:17AM

Danzy wrote: »

It's not fear. There is a significant culture of control and conformity in the modern Left.

Personally I don't wish this news channel wellm but the people harping on about it are political Cancer.

Defund the counter culture!

Larbre34 · 17-06-2021 11:18AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

I got some shock when they voted to leave the EU, I got some shock when I met people from Britain who voted to leave...but I was spectacularly misinformed.

So were they. Spectacularly.

By ignorant illiterate yobs and xenophobes, as is now becoming starkly apparent.

Their vote has ended Britain. Literally rent it apart at a thousand different seams. It's the most incredible act of national self harm in modern history.

But you love to see it.

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:18AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Actually the whole take a knee thing ...conservatives tried to get people and companies to boycott the NFL.

https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-boycott-brands-keurig-nfl-starbucks-2017-11?r=US&IR=T

Close but not quite the same

17-06-2021 11:18AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Actually the whole take a knee thing ...conservatives tried to get people and companies to boycott the NFL.

https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-boycott-brands-keurig-nfl-starbucks-2017-11?r=US&IR=T

Trump tried and failed to organize a boycott against Goodyear last year. He had a bad year.

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:18AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

So were they. Spectacularly.

By ignorant illiterate yobs and xenophobes, as is now becoming starkly apparent.

Their vote has ended Britain. Literally rent it apart at a thousand different seams. It's the most incredible act of national self harm in modern history.

But you love to see it.

Lol

Danzy · 17-06-2021 11:19AM

listermint wrote: »

I think that's a ukism thats been around an age. If you are offended on behalf of those UK folks then your entitled to be offended.

Maybe your looking for names on twitter to be offended about ? Perhaps ?

There is a bang of Snobbery of it though. It didn't maybe start out as that but it's certainly where it is now.

silverharp · 17-06-2021 11:20AM

Danzy wrote: »

It's not fear. There is a significant culture of control and conformity in the modern Left.

Personally I don't wish this news channel wellm but the people harping on about it are political Cancer.

Centre left people should have the courage to call out the idiots on their side. Bill Maher for example in the US seems to do a good job of showing that his brain isnt just a conduit for the lulas he must be coming across every day

ILoveYourVibes · 17-06-2021 11:23AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Close but not quite the same

No i mean i don't see what is so wrong in the land of the free on someone kneeling respectfully peacefully and quietly during a national anthem to protest police violence.

You would swear they were burning the flag or something.

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:23AM

Danzy wrote: »

There is a bang of Snobbery of it though. It didn't maybe start out as that but it's certainly where it is now.

Snobbery ? Buddy it's a UK name and directed alot at the richest of rich over there. Half the government is made up of elite educated colleges.

Snobbery ?

Selective revisionism of the present is what that is. Anyone harping about being marginalised from a million pound house in london whilst presenting on lbc and having multiple opinion columns.

The whole thing including this gbnews channel is a big game of snake oil sales. Make buck off telling people about they are being cancelled out.

Gas times I tell you .

17-06-2021 11:24AM

Faugheen wrote: »

They spend pretty much the entire day asking their guests what they think of ‘woke culture’. Wooooah so insightful you rebellious bastards.

I’d bet both my bollocks that they and everyone here that uses it doesn’t actually know what it means. It’s just a buzzword that’s thrown around by conservatives to dismiss other opinions.

And they have the audacity to moan about free speech.

Same dopes banging on about those boycotting advertisers. So what? People don’t want to use brands associated with GB News. Are they not entitled to that freedom?

I personally wouldn’t boycott a brand that is associated with GB News but at the same time I couldn’t care less if anyone else did.

Have you watched it for an entire day then?

Or are you appealing to the communal opinion of the Left who have probably never watched more than 5-minutes of it.

Maybe you missed Andrew Neil's interview with the Chancellor last night.

What part of the Woke catalogue did that belong to?

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:24AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No i mean i don't see what is so wrong in the land of the free on someone kneeling respectfully peacefully and quietly during a national anthem to protest police violence.

You would swear they were burning the flag or something.

Do you think the campaign to boycott the NFL was wrong but the campaign to boycott GBNews is good?

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:25AM

silverharp wrote: »

Centre left people should have the courage to call out the idiots on their side. Bill Maher for example in the US seems to do a good job of showing that his brain isnt just a conduit for the lulas he must be coming across every day

What does Bill Maher in the US have to do with Irish people who are centre or center left ?

Genuinely ?

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:26AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Do you think the campaign to boycott the NFL was wrong but the campaign to boycott GBNews is good?

The NFL would never have been boycott. That's hilarious.

It's all about the numbers. If you can't get support then your so called boycott fails.

Silentcorner · 17-06-2021 11:26AM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Well, when a narrative is presented in good faith I don't usually ask for proof that often but when it's some variant of rightwingers pretending to be victims then that needs serious backing up IMO as it's the most absurd bad faith narrative currently doing the rounds.

I'd say if I asked for proof that Brexit voters were presented as illiterate, you'd at best respond with a cherrypicked tweet which would of course just prove my point.

As an aside, where are you getting the illiterate thing from? Is it not enough to throw the same old trope out or did you fancy adding something new?

We all remember the narrative, we don't need concrete evidence of such....you are just asking for something that is impossible to provide, you know this, but it's your attempt to undermine the poster....when the poster provides you with an example you dismiss it.

It's a cheap shot.

If you are looking for proof of how Brexiteers were presented you need look no further than this thread....there are still people who believe that the Brits who voted to leave were either conned into it or they are racist xenophobes...

I suspect it is one of the reasons that this new channel was conceived...never before in my lifetime have the political and media class been so out of tune with ordinary people.

17-06-2021 11:28AM

Faugheen wrote: »

They spend pretty much the entire day asking their guests what they think of ‘woke culture’. Wooooah so insightful you rebellious bastards.

I’d bet both my bollocks that they and everyone here that uses it doesn’t actually know what it means. It’s just a buzzword that’s thrown around by conservatives to dismiss other opinions.

But it's not.

Here is one of 1000s of possible examples.

Goldsmiths University has bowed to pressure from its student union to incorporate ‘racial trauma’ as a reason to defer essays and exams for Black and PoC students.

Evidence will be submitted through self-certification.

And there is nothing rebellious about pointing out how hysterically and comically stupid this stuff becomes. That's when it isn't actively dangerous to the development of students, of course.

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:29AM

Ahhh, i can feel a bad bout of racial trauma coming on!! Won't be handing in my essay this week, Prof!

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:29AM

listermint wrote: »

The NFL would never have been boycott. That's hilarious.

It's all about the numbers. If you can't get support then your so called boycott fails.

So...might is right?

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:30AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

We all remember the narrative, we don't need concrete evidence of such....you are just asking for something that is impossible to provide, you know this, but it's your attempt to undermine the poster....when the poster provides you with an example you dismiss it.

It's a cheap shot.

If you are looking for proof of how Brexiteers were presented you need look no further than this thread....there are still people who believe that the Brits who voted to leave were either conned into it or they are racist xenophobes...

I suspect it is one of the reasons that this new channel was conceived...never before in my lifetime have the political and media class been so out of tune with ordinary people.

You said farage is marginalised and was never given air time on the BBC. It's easy to despute that .

https://www.strudel.org.uk/panelshows/people/oyesh1hw.html

Your next phrase was ... Well he was on panels with lefty's and they always shouted him down.

You were asked for evidence of your claim and provided one video edit.

Even you have to agree that your claim was not factual and one edited video doesn't warrant making it.

Tbf....

ancapailldorcha · 17-06-2021 11:30AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

We all remember the narrative, we don't need concrete evidence of such....you are just asking for something that is impossible to provide, you know this, but it's your attempt to undermine the poster....when the poster provides you with an example you dismiss it.

It's a cheap shot.

If you are looking for proof of how Brexiteers were presented you need look no further than this thread....there are still people who believe that the Brits who voted to leave were either conned into it or they are racist xenophobes...

I suspect it is one of the reasons that this new channel was conceived...never before in my lifetime have the political and media class been so out of tune with ordinary people.

I've lived here for over a decade now. I know what the narrative is and repeating the same fantasy over and over again doesn't make it any more true.

I'm not going to do your research for you and I don't know how much proof there will be of the treatment of Brexit voters in 2016 on a thread on an Irish website that's been made almost half a decade later. That's a weird thing to suggest, frankly.

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:31AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

So...might is right?

I haven't got a breeze what that means. Is that a twitter tag ....

Silentcorner · 17-06-2021 11:31AM

listermint wrote: »

You said farage is marginalised and was never given air time on the BBC. It's easy to despute that .

https://www.strudel.org.uk/panelshows/people/oyesh1hw.html

Your next phrase was ... Well he was on panels with lefty's and they always shouted him down.

You were asked for evidence of your claim and provided one video edit.

Even you have to agree that your claim was not factual and one edited video doesn't warrant making it.

Tbf....

I neither did nor said any of those things, you are lying through your teeth!

hirondelle · 17-06-2021 11:32AM

eskimohunt wrote: »

The broader point I was making is that technical issues don't necessarily have to mean something is bad. The substance of the channel, much like a game, is what matters in the end.

As for GB News cashing in on the culture wars, the only reason such a war exists is because there has been a one-sided, spineless media organism that has fomented the conditions for war. GB News wouldn't exist had it not been for the pre-existing ideological militia that are given the time of day that they clearly do not deserve. Furthermore, I doubt very much that GB News will rake in the cash on this issue anyway. Andrew Neil's interview with Chancellor Sunak yesterday had nothing whatsoever to do with culture wars - it was all finance. So, let's not paint GB News as some anti-woke central; because it ain't.

GB News exists to balance that inequality, so to speak.

The channel that stated it would be running a Woke Watch segment?

pjohnson · 17-06-2021 11:32AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

So...might is right?

Do you guys not go on about democracy?

Do you think the minority should have a bigger say than the majority?

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:33AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But it's not.

Here is one of 1000s of possible examples.

And there is nothing rebellious about pointing out how hysterically and comically stupid this stuff becomes. That's when it isn't actively dangerous to the development of students, of course.

Eskimo.

What does one random decision in some random university in a city hundreds of miles away with their random students Union have to do with you and yours and why are you so upset about it?

Honestly ... Why.

17-06-2021 11:33AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Do you think the campaign to boycott the NFL was wrong but the campaign to boycott GBNews is good?

I don't view it as bad, pretty amusing that it upset them so much and that probably says something about them but I also view it as their absolute right to organise a boycott if they want. Meanwhile a poster on a pretty extreme end of the spectrum wishes to make such boycotts illegal. What do you think of that?

suicide_circus · 17-06-2021 11:33AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Do you guys not go on about democracy?

Do you think the minority should have a bigger say than the majority?

Who is "you guys"?

17-06-2021 11:33AM

hirondelle wrote: »

The channel that stated it would be running a Woke Watch segment?

What part of the word segment don't you understand?

pjohnson · 17-06-2021 11:34AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Who is "you guys"?

Those crying about sponsors listening to customers and deciding not to advertise on GBNews.

listermint · 17-06-2021 11:35AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

I neither did nor said any of those things, you are lying through your teeth!

Wrong poster. Apologies.

Also you ar very aggressive. Are you always like this

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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