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F1 2021 Round 6: Azerbaijan GP

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  • #362
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Pirelli say they are good for 40 laps.

    That’s actually fair enough.

    Still. I hate that every race is aimed to have a one-stop.

    Three categories of tyres for everyone. Some races will be 1-stop, others will be 2-3.


  • #363
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,584 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Faugheen wrote: »
    They’ll all be allowed to change tyres

    Not sure thats sufficient in the circumstances. Light fuel, high speed, high downforce, too risky in my view.


  • #364
    Irishjg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Irishjg


    One stop races should be banned. For many reasons.


  • #365
    ctrl-alt-delete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,261 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Looking at it again, very lucky Max went right and not left as he may have hit a solid wall.

    Serious questions of Pirelli now.

    They will only restart it because they can all change theirs while they wait.


  • #366
    Faugheen
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Not sure thats sufficient in the circumstances. Light fuel, high speed, high downforce, too risky in my view.

    But they can put on fresh tyres and get those ones that are at the end of their lives off.


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  • #367
    Lawlesz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    Any chance of it being abandoned and count back for Max to win! Isn't that how Fisi got the final Jordan win


  • #368
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,158 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    It's an absolute joke that Masi's considering a restart. Hamilton gets f*cking #BLESSED with another win and Sky cream themselves.


  • #369
    Lawlesz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    skipper_G wrote: »
    I mean I feel bad for Verstappen, but I'm a massive Perez fan and he's leading the race now. Also Vettel P3 for Aston so great day for me

    Yeah I'm torn, delighted for Checo and Seb, but heart broken for Max


  • #370
    recyclebin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    If they end the race now Max will win as he was leading the race at the end of the lap previous to the accident lap.

    You cant win a race if you are directly involved in causing the red flag. You'd think commentator would know that.


  • #371
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    The way the car starts to snake when the tire goes, the driver is basically a passenger


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  • #372
    ctrl-alt-delete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,261 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Faugheen wrote: »
    But they can put on fresh tyres and get those ones that are at the end of their lives off.

    Just thinking of that they won't have time to get them to race temp? We've seen many today struggle with that.

    Won't be any point restarting it as a race for me.


  • #373
    Vicxas
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    Pirelli in serious trouble


  • #374
    LMHC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭LMHC


    Faugheen wrote: »
    That’s actually fair enough.

    Still. I hate that every race is aimed to have a one-stop.

    Three categories of tyres for everyone. Some races will be 1-stop, others will be 2-3.

    But you cannot stop a team having a strategy. If a strategy is 1 stop for Max and 2 for Perez that is their prerogative. It is entirely up to a team who does what and how.


  • #375
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Very sporting from Red Bull to call for the red flag and put safety above their own ambitions.

    Makes you wonder if certain other people would do and agree with the same thing, if they were leading.


  • #376
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,183 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So red bull are saying they got zero indication that the tyre was going to fail.

    Tyre failure is different to tyre wear.


  • #377
    Faugheen
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    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    It's an absolute joke that Masi's considering a restart. Hamilton gets f*cking #BLESSED with another win and Sky cream themselves.

    Well Red Bull disagree with you.

    Always the FIA wanting to give Hamilton a win though. Keep up the fantastic bullsh*t there pal.


  • #378
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,481 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Catastrophic tyre failure at 300kmh is unacceptable. Pirelli need to sort out their shiit.


  • #379
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,584 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Faugheen wrote: »
    But they can put on fresh tyres and get those ones that are at the end of their lives off.

    Red Bull seem to agree with me (or I with them rather)

    Now I know Red Bull would say that wouldn't they, but fresh or worn out are not necessarily the variable here.


  • #380
    iffandonlyif
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    devnull wrote: »
    Very sporting from Red Bull to call for the red flag and put safety above their own ambitions.

    Makes you wonder if certain other people would do and agree with the same thing, if they were leading.

    There would be no risk of Tyree failure under safety car.


  • #381
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Need to send the hardest tyres to Silverstone this year


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  • #382
    Faugheen
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    LMHC wrote: »
    But you cannot stop a team having a strategy. If a strategy is 1 stop for Max and 2 for Perez that is their prerogative. It is entirely up to a team who does what and how.

    But they decide their strategy based on what Pirelli tells them and nearly every race the 3 out of 5 tyre compounds are decided based on a one-stop strategy.


  • #383
    ctrl-alt-delete
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So red bull are saying they got zero indication that the tyre was going to fail.

    Tyre failure is different to tyre wear.

    Do they mean in terms of they'd have known if it was debris?

    Same tyre and same part of the track, it all points to failure you would think.


  • #384
    Faugheen
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    That’s rotten for Latifi. What was his race engineer thinking?


  • #385
    Cool_CM
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    Aw man, poor Latifi


  • #386
    LMHC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭LMHC


    Faugheen wrote: »
    But they decide their strategy based on what Pirelli tells them and nearly every race the 3 out of 5 tyre compounds are decided based on a one-stop strategy.

    Pirelli give advice on the tire used pre race. Take into consideration track temp, rain fall, breaking (mid race)power exerted from the car (mid race) too many variables just be cut and drawn


  • #387
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,543 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Ah for feck sake. What a joke for Latifi.


  • #388
    LMHC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭LMHC


    ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »
    Do they mean in terms of they'd have known if it was debris?

    Same tyre and same part of the track, it all points to failure you would think.

    No specifically, it could be repeated on same part of track if same lines were taken. An issue with the track.


  • #389
    JeffKenna
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    HAM will win this, so undeserved.


  • #390
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,692 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Restart and Perez to take Hamilton out so Max stays leading. Everyone wins!


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  • #391
    Rossi IRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Like this FIA team radio


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