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Dublin Lord Mayor Hazel Chu to stand as Independent in Seanad elections

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  • #512
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,168 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Tying herself up in riddles

    Terrified to call out that some ppl are not law abiding

    It’s a no from me


  • #513
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Tying herself up in riddles

    Terrified to call out that some ppl are not law abiding

    It’s a no from me

    Saying that the vast majority were sitting drinking and being law abiding, never mind that street drinking is illegal in Dublin


  • #514
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    She's on with Katie Hannon at the moment re Dublin crowds but I'm sure she'll be asked about it.

    Ok but she is not on her favorite platform like she always jumps on
    Useless


  • #515
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Toilets and such facilities should be all over the city anyway.

    Dublin city is a a horrible place to be, stinks, dirty and scum everywhere and nothing done about it.


  • #516
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Toilets and such facilities should be all over the city anyway.

    Dublin city is a a horrible place to be, stinks, dirty and scum everywhere and nothing done about it.

    The reason there are no toilets is because there is scum everywhere. We had public toilets years ago until they were overrun by junkies


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  • #517
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    The train there are no toilets is because there is scum everywhere. We had public toilets years ago until they were overrun by junkies

    That can't be used as an excuse, there are enough Gardai, council workers etcto keep these under control.

    The toilets I remember as a child had attendees so were kept quite clean too.

    The pod at O'Connell bridge removed years ago too was ridiculous, as a bus driver there are zero facilities for us too., Over 2,500 drivers and not a toilet.


  • #518
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    That can't be used as an excuse, there are enough Gardai, council workers etcto keep these under control.

    The toilets I remember as a child had attendees so were kept quite clean too.

    The pod at O'Connell bridge removed years ago too was ridiculous, as a bus driver there are zero facilities for us too., Over 2,500 drivers and not a toilet.

    There were attendees until they were assaulted and abused by these junkies and had to be removed for their own safety.

    The insistence on providing drug clinics and social housing with embedded social problems is the root of the issues in the city. Everything flows from that.


  • #519
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    It's mad when you think about it. Because of junkies and a few cottagers, the city of Dublin completely ceased providing any toilet facilities. Outrageous. But then it kind of sums up the state's approach to any bad behaviour - ban it for everyone.


  • #520
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    It's mad when you think about it. Because of junkies and a few cottagers, the city of Dublin completely ceased providing any toilet facilities. Outrageous. But then it kind of sums up the state's approach to any bad behaviour - ban it for everyone.

    It is mad, but would you work in a place where you're constantly threatened? Would you be happy if your employer who had a duty of care to you left you there?

    The toilets became unsafe for staff and patrons and had to go. It's not right, but that's the reality of it.


  • #521
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,269 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    It's mad when you think about it. Because of junkies and a few cottagers, the city of Dublin completely ceased providing any toilet facilities. Outrageous. But then it kind of sums up the state's approach to any bad behaviour - ban it for everyone.

    The reality is that they didn't want to put any money into the cost of the upkeep.

    My old man remembered when the public toilets in Dublin were staffed by a full time attendant.


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  • #522
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,275 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    If I was gender blind and basing my opinion of Chu solely on performance.
    I'd have to say she comes across as an exceptionally poor politician.
    Reactive, poor engagement and no actual spine when put on the spot.
    Near immediate resort to identity politicking rather than a history of achievement or policy success and very much appears to operate in the realm of what's best for me, rather than what's best for my constituents.

    Not an ideological Green and not an effective politician in building any effective support or consensus for her positions or policies.

    Honestly, other than gender or race?
    What is her actual voter appeal?


  • #523
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The reality is that they didn't want to put any money into the cost of the upkeep.

    My old man remembered when the public toilets in Dublin were staffed by a full time attendant.
    Your dad is probably thinking of a time when people with 400 convictions didnt roam the streets stamping on people's skulls for sport and when garda foot patrols were a common sight.

    There are auto cleaning kiosk toilets and free standing pissoirs in loads of cities around the world. We dont need the elaborate Victorian "spend a penny" affairs.


  • #524
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Surprised by that actually

    A little dig by Ryan?

    "Party leader and Dublin Bay South TD Eamon Ryan congratulated Ms Bryne, saying it was a reflection of the Green Party’s strength and diversity to have such a strong candidate running in Dublin Bay South."


    I wonder how the Greens are now aligned after this.


  • #525
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,269 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    There are auto cleaning kiosk toilets and free standing pissoirs in loads of cities around the world. We dont need the elaborate Victorian "spend a penny" affairs.

    No we don't. They still don't want to foot the cost of upkeep though.


  • #526
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Tony EH wrote: »
    No we don't. They still don't want to foot the cost of upkeep though.

    However they dont seems to mind spending our money on white water rafting complexes or death trap cycle lanes


  • #527
    Jerry Attrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Jerry Attrick


    MrMusician18 wrote: »

    Saying that the vast majority were sitting drinking and being law abiding, never mind that street drinking is illegal in Dublin

    Shure why would you expect Dublin's Lord Mayor (also a qualified barrister as it happens) to know anything about the Dublin City Council's by-laws? That's way outside her comfort zone!

    She knows how to fill in a Councillor's expenses claim form, and that's all that matters.


  • #528
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Jerry Attrick wrote: »
    Shure why would you expect Dublin's Lord Mayor (also a qualified barrister as it happens) to know anything about the Dublin City Council's by-laws? That's way outside her comfort zone!

    She knows how to fill in a Councillor's expenses claim form, and that's all that matters.

    That's a bit unfair. She also knows how to write race baiting posts on twitter and make herself the self appointed champion of women and minorities.


  • #529
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Saying that the vast majority were sitting drinking and being law abiding, never mind that street drinking is illegal in Dublin

    Is it? I asked a guard that a couple of weeks ago when we were going for a takeaway pint with some relatives.

    He said it's ok to drink on the street, it's just illegal to be drunk in public.

    Now he may have been under orders to turn a blind eye what with the covid situation but I'm surprised about that.


  • #530
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    MikeOxsgreen wrote: »
    I wonder how the Greens are now aligned after this.

    I'd say they are aligned right down the middle, wouldn't you?

    Chu will be a Soc Dem before the summer is out. Catherine Martin will lead whats left of the Greens by Christmas.


  • #531
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is it? I asked a guard that a couple of weeks ago when we were going for a takeaway pint with some relatives.

    He said it's ok to drink on the street, it's just illegal to be drunk in public.

    Now he may have been under orders to turn a blind eye what with the covid situation but I'm surprised about that.
    Dublin and Cork have bye-laws that prohibit street drinking. I'm not sure about other cities or county towns.


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  • #532
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Dublin and Cork have bye-laws that prohibit street drinking. I'm not sure about other cities or county towns.

    Huh... Every day is a schoolday.

    I guess it's just unenforceable at the moment.

    Cheers.


  • #533
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,269 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Dublin and Cork have bye-laws that prohibit street drinking. I'm not sure about other cities or county towns.

    That's a pretty dumb law when the street's outside Kehoe's, Grogan's and others are regularly packed with drinkers.


  • #534
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    It's mad when you think about it. Because of junkies and a few cottagers, the city of Dublin completely ceased providing any toilet facilities. Outrageous. But then it kind of sums up the state's approach to any bad behaviour - ban it for everyone.

    It reminds me of primary school; if one person acted the bollox everyone else got in trouble too. I hated the concept then, and I hate it even more now.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • #535
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    It reminds me of primary school; if one person acted the bollox everyone else got in trouble too. I hated the concept then, and I hate it even more now.

    It's weak leadership


  • #536
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Dublin and Cork have bye-laws that prohibit street drinking. I'm not sure about other cities or county towns.

    I assumed it was a general law across the country that you couldn't drink in public places.


  • #537
    Jermaine Old Computer
    Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Jermaine Old Computer


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    It's mad when you think about it. Because of junkies and a few cottagers, the city of Dublin completely ceased providing any toilet facilities. Outrageous. But then it kind of sums up the state's approach to any bad behaviour - ban it for everyone.

    Yep too incompetent and self serving to their own constitiencies to be even bothered with the problems on Dublin's streets.

    Dublin is falling behind again. I think it peaked somewhere between the 90s and last year.


  • #538
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I'd say they are aligned right down the middle, wouldn't you?

    Chu will be a Soc Dem before the summer is out. Catherine Martin will lead whats left of the Greens by Christmas.


    It wouldn't surprise me to see her toss her hat in the ring to replace the Hobbit in the park when he retires - on behalf of all the minorities of course!

    ****



  • #539
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,965 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Elmo wrote: »
    I assumed it was a general law across the country that you couldn't drink in public places.

    https://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/32178/1/Intox%20Bye-Laws%202008.pdf


  • #540
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,013 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    It wouldn't surprise me to see her toss her hat in the ring to replace the Hobbit in the park when he retires - on behalf of all the minorities of course!

    :pac: I can see the posters now "Vote for me or you're a racist".

    She is a terrible politician, but her contemporaries aren't much better, she's just another flavour of crap Irish politician.

    Glazers Out!



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  • #541
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    It wouldn't surprise me to see her toss her hat in the ring to replace the Hobbit in the park when he retires - on behalf of all the minorities of course!

    Ok, we get it.


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