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Some site news...we're moving! [Update in Post #138 4/6/21]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,142 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Can I get a notification if someone replies to one of my posts?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    Inviere wrote: »
    Niamh, any changes to the ignore feature? I use a user made grease monkey script currently, which gracefully hides ignored posters which are quoted (the built in one doesnt do this).

    You're not getting rid of me *that* easily. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I know it's a fairly run of the mill point at this stage, but I'd add my voice to the chorus asking for the return of dark mode post haste once the move occurs. Please.

    Dark mode makes the site look so much better, to an extent that's unbelievable - I honestly don't know how people function without it - whenever I get a glimpse of how the "normal" colour scheme works it hurts my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Can I get a notification if someone replies to one of my posts?

    I mentioned this previously also, and now wonder if the tagging...
    Yes you can tag other users and they can tag you. You can switch off notifications for people tagging you if it's not your cup of tea.
    ...could help - maybe a tag could be automatically added to the quote in a reply?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Will signup date be visible beside all posts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Arghus wrote: »
    I know it's a fairly run of the mill point at this stage, but I'd add my voice to the chorus asking for the return of dark mode post haste once the move occurs. Please.

    Dark mode makes the site look so much better, to an extent that's unbelievable - I honestly don't know how people function without it - whenever I get a glimpse of how the "normal" colour scheme works it hurts my eyes.

    +1 on this. I always have the site in dark mode and really dislike it with the blue colours.

    Have fun with the migration :eek:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    Will there be a "Back to top" button in threads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    I’m 50 next year, I’ve gone through many changes with boards over the years. Wonder will I get hot flushes this time. Probably not, off to buy a Ferrari then :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,256 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Overheal wrote: »
    No! Save Pac-Man!

    A bigger deal needs to be made out of this, that little yellow dude is a cornerstone of boards :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Slightly off topic, but if new features are easier to implement on the new platform and its something admins are placing a focus on, would you consider setting up something like uservoice? This would let people suggest new features, other users could vote for them etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Boooooo, save pac-man :pac:

    And no, I'm not saying boo-urns.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Will "join date" still be under people's avatars?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    What is the story with the 10,000 post limit per thread. Do threads that big cause issues on the new platform?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    Zaph wrote: »
    Presumably if I add an admin to a PM conversation the other person will be immediately aware that I've "reported" it. This action in itself may prompt particularly major dicks to subject the other poster to increased abuse as they know there'll be a window between inviting the admin and action being taken, which the reporter may not want to open themselves up to. This could in turn result in fewer reported PMs as people choose to ignore the other poster instead. I know there's the option to submit screenshots, but will there be a proper Report PM function available at a future date? And if a poster sends a screenshot of a PM they have an issue with, will there be a specific "mailbox" they can send it to that will take over the function of the Reported PMs forum, or will it be a case of adding a bunch of admins/office staff to the PM? The reason I ask this is that quite a few people seem to be unsure of who the admins are these days. I still get semi-regular PMs asking me to delete posts, etc. :)

    A lot of the issue with people not knowing who are admins etc is you all going for these super cool tag lines under your name instead of your forum function.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    What is the story with the 10,000 post limit per thread. Do threads that big cause issues on the new platform?

    I asked this when they tried moving away from vBulletin the last time, dav said the limit would stay,

    but davs not here any more....


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I asked this when they tried moving away from vBulletin the last time, dav said the limit would stay,

    but davs not here any more....

    I don't remember them ever trying to move away from vBulletin. Was that for the responsive site? I can see why it would stay with that as it was still using the same back end which is where the issues are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    They never moved fully away from vBulletin because the users didn't want change, the move from the old skin to the current style was too much for some

    This is what dav was saying at the time
    Dav wrote: »
    95% of our tech team's time is being spent working on the feedback received on the beta test so far. But there are only 3 of them and they're not miracle workers. :)

    I've tried explaining this before, but haven't done a good enough job obviously. So I'll do my best again to break down what's happening and why.

    1) we need to be rid of VBulletin. It hasn't been fit for purpose for years. The Talk To forums and touch. no longer run on it thankfully. The rest of the site has to be moved away from it.

    2) we have neither the time, money nor man-power to run 2 separate sites and dedicated apps. There are 3 developers and a sys admin in house to manage the technical needs of one of the biggest sites in this country.

    3) responsive websites are the perfect solution to where the internet is right now - you have one site that figures out what kind of device you're using and serves you the appropriate layout. Mobile traffic is now more than half of Boards total - it was only about 30-35% this time last year.

    4) not being tied to VBulletin means that changes take days instead of weeks to implement. Not having what currently amounts to 3 sites (plus apps) running in parallel means that the team's workload is DRASTICALLY reduced in terms of maintenance, changes and tweaks.

    5) to the people who think we're just doing this for the craic - you are being big silly heads :D I really don't think I need to expand on this, do I?

    The most difficult thing in the online world to do, it seems, is change a website. You get almost universal hatred and criticism from the existing community of members who never, ever want anything to change. You can't get accurate feedback from the people you're hoping to attract because they cannot figure out the current site as it is and don't know how to give feedback. I would like to think that Boards has always done its best to give people what they want - we've never shied away from criticism or feedback and when there's an overwhelming majority of people looking for something to be changed, we do it. Making this move means we're going to be able to do it a LOT sooner. To the multitudes saying "ain't broke - don't fix" have no idea what they're talking about I'm afraid. They have neither the statistics nor the thousands of emails a year nor the feedback from people we want to do business with about how difficult our site is to use. Like it or not, we want and need more members and making the site more friendly to new people is how we do that.

    We've thankfully had a lot of useful and detailed over the last few months which is why things have gone quiet on the Responsive Site Testing forum, the stuff's been read, sorted and prioritised and is being worked on. When there's a major update pushed, there'll be news about it there and the change notes listed and the process will be repeated. It's an iterative process, it takes time and above all your help (which you all do, please don't think we don't appreciate that).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    It just seems blindingly obvious to separate the technical/behind-the-scenes changes, from the UI/UX changes. This was the core lesson to be learned, from last time.

    5 years have passed and the development of the new site has certainly improved a lot more than the last attempt - so stands a much better chance of a successful transition - but the risk is still there when it could be eliminated entirely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Will be changes to avatars?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Is there something that can be done about posters who keep closing their accounts and then starting with new usernames? I know it's not a crime but it can be annoying, particularly if done for trolling purposes. Maybe, where admin can see it is coming from the same source, e.g. same email address, some kind of tick or icon is put beside the username.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Can I get a notification if someone replies to one of my posts?
    No it's not one of the features of the new platform (at least not at the moment). The good new is when they build new features, we can just plug them in or not if they suit us as well as working on our own stuff.
    Will signup date be visible beside all posts?
    Join date will still be there yes.
    Will there be a "Back to top" button in threads?
    I thinks so but I don't remember off the top of my head and can't access the test site at this very minute. I'll check that and get back to you.
    Slightly off topic, but if new features are easier to implement on the new platform and its something admins are placing a focus on, would you consider setting up something like uservoice? This would let people suggest new features, other users could vote for them etc
    I've never heard of uservoice! Users have always been able to make suggestions for new features in Site Development or Feedback with other user's input but I'll take a look at uservoice to see what it's all about.
    Will "join date" still be under people's avatars?
    Yes it will.
    What is the story with the 10,000 post limit per thread. Do threads that big cause issues on the new platform?
    They shouldn't cause the same issues but will check and confirm. I'm not sure they have any other sites as big/busy as Boards so they might not be too sure themselves.
    Deja Boo wrote: »
    Will be changes to avatars?
    Your current avatars will be migrated to the new platform as they are but I think the avatar options will be different then, I'll have to double check :)


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Is there something that can be done about posters who keep closing their accounts and then starting with new usernames? I know it's not a crime but it can be annoying, particularly if done for trolling purposes. Maybe, where admin can see it is coming from the same source, e.g. same email address, some kind of tick or icon is put beside the username.

    Closing an account and then opening a new one is not against the rules unless it's to get around a ban in which case the admins are usually quite good at spotting it. There is no 100% approach to this other than making people reg with real names and ID and so on which will never happen on Boards.

    I don't want to get off the topic of features of the new platform so I will leave it there for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    I'm not sure they have any other sites as big/busy as Boards so they might not be too sure themselves.

    have you any links to forums that are currently running on Vanilla, just for a looksee?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I'm excited about this. I like new things.

    I know people will gripe because such-and-such a feature will be gone or different, and it can be frustrating when something you're used to changes, but clearly the technology behind Boards is long overdue update. This really has to happen. We'll all get used to it in time no matter what.

    Boards is all about the people and the content. And long may it continue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    I'm excited about this. I like new things.

    I know people will gripe because such-and-such a feature will be gone or different, and it can be frustrating when something you're used to changes, but clearly the technology behind Boards is long overdue update. This really has to happen. We'll all get used to it in time no matter what.

    Boards is all about the people and the content. And long may it continue.

    +1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    have you any links to forums that are currently running on Vanilla, just for a looksee?

    https://vanillaforums.com/en/showcase/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,022 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Hi, just wondering, with all the new “acknowledgements” for posts will these be totted up, as the currant “thanks” are?

    I’m someone who, almost, exclusively uses the “touch site” so was unaware of this until quite recently. It looks like I have a pretty good ratio of “approval” from the users of this site and would hope that such esteem would carry over to this new “setup”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,554 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    I'm saving pacman as a bookmark to use especially if you can embed images so freely..

    Share the wealth!

    https://b-static.net/touchapp/i/smilies/pacman.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    #pacback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    What is the story with the 10,000 post limit per thread. Do threads that big cause issues on the new platform?
    They shouldn't cause the same issues but will check and confirm. I'm not sure they have any other sites as big/busy as Boards so they might not be too sure themselves.

    I just had a snoop around some of the other sites that use Vanilla.

    There's threads on King games (Candycrush) that have over 25,000 posts.

    There's a thread on Digital Spy with over 43,000 posts (The Tennis Thread). It's called "part 33", but it seems they just start a new thread about tennis each year regardless of the number of posts in it.

    Obviously I don't know anything about the Boards implementation, but the platform seems to be able support more than 10k anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,256 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Trigger wrote: »
    I'm saving pacman as a bookmark to use especially if you can embed images so freely..

    Share the wealth!

    https://b-static.net/touchapp/i/smilies/pacman.png

    You genius! He lives on!! :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    ...
    There's a thread on Digital Spy with over 43,000 posts (The Tennis Thread). It's called "part 33", but it seems they just start a new thread about tennis each year regardless of the number of posts in it.

    Is this ^ similar to the new forum format? I just clicked on one of the posters there just to see what profile pages are like... Sure feels empty and loses some community feel without a friends list. Guess I've grown used to attached to them filling my page, over the years (miss them already!)

    I know there is no way around this, and I am truly grateful Boards will still be intact, so thanks for all your efforts regardless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Deja Boo wrote: »
    Is this ^ similar to the new forum format?

    I've no idea. I assume there's a lot of leeway in skinning the tool and changing the UI, and Niamh said it would look like the current Boards look when launched. So I wouldn't take the other sites as examples of what it will look like.

    It'll be a surprise! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I'm excited about this. I like new things.

    I know people will gripe because such-and-such a feature will be gone or different, and it can be frustrating when something you're used to changes, but clearly the technology behind Boards is long overdue update. This really has to happen. We'll all get used to it in time no matter what.

    Boards is all about the people and the content. And long may it continue.
    +1

    It's going to be annoying. Every change to a platform you're familiar with, is annoying. I've been through enough versions of Windows (and boards!) to know that you have a bedding-in period of weeks to months where people whinge incessantly about how things aren't where they were before, things don't work like they did before, it's slower, it's ugly, etc etc.

    It all settles down in the end. Some people jump ship, but they always come back. The overall format of boards hasn't really changed (for me anyway) in about a decade. Which means this transition is going to be a difficult one.

    I'm a bit amazed that the old vB platform (or what's left of it) has held together as long as it has. There were big discussions when boards first became a paying employer, about rebuilding from the ground up, but trying to run something like that *and* keep the site ticking along turned out to be a very long project.

    I'm excited for the team because they've been looking at all sorts of recurrent issues and inefficient processes and thinking, "If only we could sort that....", and now they're going to get that chance.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'm excited about this. I like new things.

    I know people will gripe because such-and-such a feature will be gone or different, and it can be frustrating when something you're used to changes, but clearly the technology behind Boards is long overdue update. This really has to happen. We'll all get used to it in time no matter what.

    Boards is all about the people and the content. And long may it continue.

    Yeah I definitely agree. I can only imagine how vBulletin is being held together by little staples and some super glue after this long and it's a long overdue upgrade.


    Sure, it might take a little while to get used to. For others maybe a bit longer than that.

    But given the new features already announced by Niamh and the possibilities of more when the switchover is all done over time (I'll be asking about automated vote counters for Werewolf games :D Don't worry right now guys, we will talk soon though ;) ) I am seriously looking forward to it all.

    The site may change in looks a bit and we might lose some old friends (pray for pac) but in the long-term this will be a fantastic thing to keep the site going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,256 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Is there any way we could use this as an opportunity to find a balance between the current header with four drop downs (with only one of them being for actual forum topics)

    Boards-ie-new-header.jpg

    And the older one? (apologies for the size, if you click into it you'll see what I mean, with all the drop downs for topics along the top)

    BOARDS-IE-OLD-HEADER.jpg

    One of my theories in many forums going dead is the compression of all of the topic drop downs which were along the top of the page into one TOPICS button. People just don't browse through them anymore.

    The old system you just hovered your mouse at the top of the screen over a category and all the forums would appear. Was a really great way of discovering more obscure places you'd never visit, they'd all just display there in one place.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    The excitement in here is palpable! Which is why it pains me to tell you that we've had to push back the move from next week unfortunately. It is a combination of things really.
    We had a deadline today to get a certain amount of things done which was a very tight but doable deadline but then Vanilla pushed out an update earlier in the week that knocked out all of Dave's theming and he had to re-do it. This pushed other things further down the To Do list. On top of that there are two backfground issues that we need to work out so we're going to spend more time looking at both of these issues. Hopefully it will just be a pause of a few weeks, we'll keep ye updated here.

    Sorry about that, I know it was exciting to have something to look forward to :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,941 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    tenor.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Dark theme as default theme please since you're starting again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,554 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Baggly wrote: »
    #pacback

    ^^^^

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    The excitement in here is palpable! Which is why it pains me to tell you that we've had to push back the move from next week unfortunately. It is a combination of things really.
    We had a deadline today to get a certain amount of things done which was a very tight but doable deadline but then Vanilla pushed out an update earlier in the week that knocked out all of Dave's theming and he had to re-do it. This pushed other things further down the To Do list. On top of that there are two backfground issues that we need to work out so we're going to spend more time looking at both of these issues. Hopefully it will just be a pause of a few weeks, we'll keep ye updated here.

    Sorry about that, I know it was exciting to have something to look forward to :D

    You definitely work in IT with a detailed report like that! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    Will there be any enhancements in regards to notifications when you have been mentioned/quoted/replied to in a thread? Even if you are not following the thread?

    https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dopetech.ie



  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Dark theme as default theme please since you're starting again

    If we were really starting over again we'd be pushing back to 2022, dark theme is top of the new feature requests but probably won't make it to the first iteration.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    DopeTech wrote: »
    Will there be any enhancements in regards to notifications when you have been mentioned/quoted/replied to in a thread? Even if you are not following the thread?

    If you are tagged in a thread you will get a notification but not if someone replies to or quotes your posts.


  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    You definitely work in IT will a detailed report like that! :D

    Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic :pac:

    Not sure myself! The level of detail in your explanation on why it is has to be postponed reminds of some people with IT careers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,554 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Not sure myself! The level of detail in your explanation on why it is has to be postponed reminds of some people with IT careers!

    God no.. we would usually get a "implementation of ticket xxxx has been postponed for this month."

    No reason why :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Beagslife


    A go on now! You're all just going on the lash for the Bank Holiday. The thought of trying to sort problems on Tuesday and Wednesday was just too much. Anyway Enjoy it!!!


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trigger wrote: »
    God no.. we would usually get a "implementation of ticket xxxx has been postponed for this month."

    No reason why :D
    Usually it's "Management have told us to delay until X as they're having a board meeting and don't want there to be any risks due to the upgrade!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,554 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Usually it's "Management have told us to delay until X as they're having a board meeting and don't want there to be any risks due to the upgrade!"

    Where they all sit around smoking cigars laughing at us mere minions :D


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