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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    GT89 wrote: »
    If the virus was really as deadly as the media, doom merchants and fear mongers make out masks, gloves and wipes would be treated as contaminated hazardous waste to be incinerated.

    Worse than the radioactive waste from chernobyl is what the covideers would say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    GT89 wrote: »
    If the virus was really as deadly as the media, doom merchants and fear mongers make out masks, gloves and wipes would need to be treated as contaminated hazardous waste to be incinerated.
    There were all these masks and gloves,” Hitchens told the news outlet. “I thought it looks like a hysteria.”

    https://www.wptv.com/news/coronavirus/jupiter-man-skeptical-of-coronavirus-gets-infected-changes-opinion

    Some things never change ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Ballynally


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Is there any other time of year that June is lovely in France? :D :P

    Hihi. Goes to show how sloppy people can be when they (ie, me) post.
    I have double standards and, reading back some of my posts, am utterly embarrassed by the many spelling /style mistakes.
    I can't be bothered correcting them as i should.

    But hey, i think June is also lovely on a cold and wet winter day. Just the memory of it ☺


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Some of the whining that’s going on in this forum regarding littering at the weekend is quite frankly embarrassing. Same people who have been twitching their curtains for the entirety of the last year are now desperately clutching to what they realise may be their last opportunity for outrage.

    People have had medical screenings cancelled. Surgeries postponed. Been unable to sit beside their dying parents or pregnant wives, and this crowd.. this sorry, pitiful crowd are up in arms about an excess of littering which took place on a summer’s evening at the end of the longest lockdown in Europe. Give me a break.

    Many of these were the people that were delivering food to you in your sterile bunkers and those that continued working in shops, or were made redundant by political decisions taken by this government.

    I was out on Friday/Saturday night. It was glorious. People were so, so happy. Beaming ear to ear. Literally euphoric. There was so much happiness and good will. All ages, colours and creeds. It was a beautiful thing. So sorry some of you missed out.

    Great post. All of the recent furore is fuelled by an anti drink agenda too. Crazy the way people can be so outraged over litter being left behind but don’t have any concern for the real atrocities that have been committed since this all began.

    If Chairman Tony opened up pubs sooner there would be none of this and at least he could have some of the control he so desperately craves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    Great post. All of the recent furore is fuelled by an anti drink agenda too. Crazy the way people can be so outraged over litter being left behind but don’t have any concern for the real atrocities that have been committed since this all began.

    If Chairman Tony opened up pubs sooner there would be none of this and at least he could have some of the control he so desperately craves.

    Nation Will Turn Into Alcoholics If Pubs Don’t Open Soon, Warns Study


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    prunudo wrote: »
    Was it a peer reviewed study?

    Yep.

    They concluded that opening the pubs will cure everything.

    There was no drinking outside when the mercury hit 20 ever in the history of the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yep.

    They concluded that opening the pubs will cure everything.

    There was no drinking outside when the mercury hit 20 ever in the history of the state.

    Good to hear, should settle the minds of those around here who perfer peer reviewed links!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    prunudo wrote: »
    Good to hear, should settle the minds of those around here who perfer peer reviewed links!

    Ah no, TBF.

    That source I linked only publishes peer reviewed articles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Boggles wrote: »
    Nope.

    Here is the release from the 12th, before the hack.



    I can't see how people could be confused.


    You know full well the average person isnt reading the releases, im not gonna engage with your bad faith arguments anymore where you or your compatriots constantly move the goalposts to align with your worship of papa tony and the ISAG cult, you are as bad as they are with your ends justify the means attitude.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    The comments coming from the country leadership are a joke stating that "people are misbehaving"...

    Still treating people like school children, no wonder people are indulging themselves, the limit has been reached, this is the pressure release.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    VinLieger wrote: »
    You know full well the average person isnt reading the releases, im not gonna engage with your bad faith arguments anymore where you or your compatriots constantly move the goalposts to align with your worship of papa tony and the ISAG cult, you are as bad as they are with your ends justify the means attitude.

    Where are they reading it so?

    Here is RTE from the same date.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0512/1221238-covid-figures/
    Three of the deaths reported today occurred in March, two in February, and three in January or earlier.

    The median age of those who died was 82 years and the age range was 40 - 92 years.

    Newstalk

    A further 448 COVID cases have been reported this evening alongside eight more deaths.

    It takes the death toll to 4,937 and the national case total to 254,013.

    Three of the deaths happened in March, two happened in February and three happened in “January or earlier.”
    VinLieger wrote: »
    im not gonna engage with your bad faith arguments anymore where you or your compatriots constantly move the goalposts to align with your worship of papa tony and the ISAG cult, you are as bad as they are with your ends justify the means attitude.

    You are not going to engage because it has been pointed out to you several times you are wrong.

    You know this, so you have moved on to just throwing out nonsensical insults.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Some of the whining that’s going on in this forum regarding littering at the weekend is quite frankly embarrassing. Same people who have been twitching their curtains for the entirety of the last year are now desperately clutching to what they realise may be their last opportunity for outrage.

    People have had medical screenings cancelled. Surgeries postponed. Been unable to sit beside their dying parents or pregnant wives, and this crowd.. this sorry, pitiful crowd are up in arms about an excess of littering which took place on a summer’s evening at the end of the longest lockdown in Europe. Give me a break.

    Many of these were the people that were delivering food to you in your sterile bunkers and those that continued working in shops, or were made redundant by political decisions taken by this government.

    I was out on Friday/Saturday night. It was glorious. People were so, so happy. Beaming ear to ear. Literally euphoric. There was so much happiness and good will. All ages, colours and creeds. It was a beautiful thing. So sorry some of you missed out.

    The fact that the country is slowly starting to turn a corner and getting back to some semblance of normality doesn't give anyone the excuse to behave like a filthy animal and throw rubbish all over the place.

    Have some consideration for the people who have to get up on Saturday and Sunday mornings and clean all this crap up, the same people you championed in your post.

    Clean your shít up next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,839 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    The kappa variant sounds like a dodgy coffee I had


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Nah, I think the covideers know they are beaten. They even admitted here today that nobody was breaking restrictions in Dublin last weekend.
    What I find hilarious from some of my WhatApp groups is that those who are most critical of the events in Dublin 2 at the weekend used to be the biggest pi55 heads and out of the head merchants I've ever known and I'm 100% certain would have there if they were a few years younger. :D
    A couple of kids later ........ you know the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    The comments coming from the country leadership are a joke stating that "people are misbehaving"...

    Still treating people like school children, no wonder people are indulging themselves, the limit has been reached, this is the pressure release.

    I think that makes the 9575th entry in the Covid TWWNS database.

    Obviously no need for any actual link to the "country leadership" stating "people are misbehaving" for that to be a bona fide official entry

    Thank you for your participation....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    The covideers will be crawling around knawing at the carpets. The rest of us will be ripping into pints.

    Beautiful days ahead.


    Remember this, there will be people hoping for a spike in cases after the BH weekend.


    The Claire Byrnes, Pat Kenny etc will be desperately hoping for it so they can preach "we told you so" on their shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    What I find hilarious from some of my WhatApp groups is that those who are most critical of the events in Dublin 2 at the weekend used to be the biggest pi55 heads and out of the head merchants I've ever known and I'm 100% certain would have there if they were a few years younger. :D
    A couple of kids later ........ you know the rest.


    Come on, they are "following the science" and "keeping everyone safe"


    Science has become a new dogma since all this started, it's a shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    Keyzer wrote: »
    The fact that the country is slowly starting to turn a corner and getting back to some semblance of normality doesn't give anyone the excuse to behave like a filthy animal and throw rubbish all over the place.

    Have some consideration for the people who have to get up on Saturday and Sunday mornings and clean all this crap up, the same people you championed in your post.

    Clean your shít up next time.

    Where crowds gather litter will always be left, electric picnic, papal visit, busy beach. It's a fact of life.

    The main whine from the covid crowd last weekend was not about covid but people having fun and leaving litter.

    First it was variants, then not enough people having their second dose and now the whine is about litter.

    Varadkar was even on about bad weather being a good thing next weekend.

    Pathetic at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    gozunda wrote: »
    I think that makes the 9575th entry in the Covid TWWNS database.

    Obviously no need need for any actual link to the "country leadership" stating "people are misbehaving" for that to be a bona fide official entry

    Thank you for your participation....

    You are well aware of the statements from NPHET and Government chastising people for their behaviour and the multiple-times-an-hour condescending radio ads reminding everyone to stay the course.

    How about addressing the points raised instead of trying to grandstand?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Remember this, there will be people hoping for a spike in cases after the BH weekend.


    The Claire Byrnes, Pat Kenny etc will be desperately hoping for it so they can preach "we told you so" on their shows.

    No doubt about it. Anything to keep it going.


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some of the whining that’s going on in this forum regarding littering at the weekend is quite frankly embarrassing. Same people who have been twitching their curtains for the entirety of the last year are now desperately clutching to what they realise may be their last opportunity for outrage.

    People have had medical screenings cancelled. Surgeries postponed. Been unable to sit beside their dying parents or pregnant wives, and this crowd.. this sorry, pitiful crowd are up in arms about an excess of littering which took place on a summer’s evening at the end of the longest lockdown in Europe. Give me a break.

    Many of these were the people that were delivering food to you in your sterile bunkers and those that continued working in shops, or were made redundant by political decisions taken by this government.

    I was out on Friday/Saturday night. It was glorious. People were so, so happy. Beaming ear to ear. Literally euphoric. There was so much happiness and good will. All ages, colours and creeds. It was a beautiful thing. So sorry some of you missed out.

    None of that is any excuse for people behaving like animals. Bringing a load of drink and food to somewhere, consuming it and then just throwing the empties around the place is pig ignorant, disgusting behaviour and should be highlighted and looked down upon.

    Why are you sorry we missed out? Why do you even think we missed out? Is everyone else (bar the few hundred scumbags throwing their rubbish on the ground) really that much worse off for not standing outside Pygmalion, drinking warm cans for 5 hours? I was out and about on Sunday as well, few pints and a takeaway pizza by the sea. Loads of people, all having a good time. Bins were rammed, brought it all home with me. Looked like most of the people there were doing the same. Why were you so happy to be surrounded by the filthbags who trashed the place and got you tarred with the same brush?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    None of that is any excuse for people behaving like animals. Bringing a load of drink and food to somewhere, consuming it and then just throwing the empties around the place is pig ignorant, disgusting behaviour and should be highlighted and looked down upon.

    Why are you sorry we missed out? Why do you even think we missed out? Is everyone else (bar the few hundred scumbags throwing their rubbish on the ground) really that much worse off for not standing outside Pygmalion, drinking warm cans for 5 hours? I was out and about on Sunday as well, few pints and a takeaway pizza by the sea. Loads of people, all having a good time. Bins were rammed, brought it all home with me. Looked like most of the people there were doing the same. Why were you so happy to be surrounded by the filthbags who trashed the place and got you tarred with the same brush?

    What has litter got to do with covid?

    If litter was the problem it's none of holohans business.

    People were not breaking covid restrictions Saturday night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Ballynally


    Keyzer wrote: »
    The fact that the country is slowly starting to turn a corner and getting back to some semblance of normality doesn't give anyone the excuse to behave like a filthy animal and throw rubbish all over the place.

    Have some consideration for the people who have to get up on Saturday and Sunday mornings and clean all this crap up, the same people you championed in your post.

    Clean your shít up next time.

    Ok, my take on all this is that, whatever your view is about drinking (and littering, urinating etc) in public, we should be grateful even having the argument.
    The SarsVoc2 nrs are so low the focus is on other things. Great.
    Also, like many people i was irked by the TH 'shock' statement and the subsequent outrage that followed in the news, plus the link with the pandemic.
    All very predictable in hindsight.
    You know we can just ignore that now and people making reference to it. We can let that argument simply die out and not put any fuel to it.Things are looking bright.
    In a way i find the whole thing quite amusing.
    One caveat: if the TH's of Ireland start to get overly worried about rises in infection rates resulting in the continuation of restrictions.
    THEN it is time to start kicking and screaming.
    In other words, instead of nitpicking about who said what and when (you did,no i didnt, YES you did, NO i didnt) hold your ammunition for the future.


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    The main whine from the covid crowd last weekend was not about covid but people having fun and leaving litter.

    That's just not true. You're making it up to paint anyone who isn't shocked at piles of crap being left on the ground as the fun police. But everyone can see through that nonsense.

    Yes, there should be more bins. And yes, the council are guilty of abdicating their responsibility for refuse and toilets to others, primarily the retail and commercial sector. For a number of decades, really. But, No, that is not a good enough reason to start throwing your rubbish on the floor like a savage. You can still have fun and party without leaving the place like a halting site. I know because I've done it myself every single time I've been in that situation.


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What has litter got to do with covid?

    If litter was the problem it's none of holohans business.

    People were not breaking covid restrictions Saturday night.

    I'd be obliged if you could point out where I linked litter and covid, thanks.

    Or where I mentioned Holohan.

    Or where I said they were breaking restrictions.

    I never said any of those things and yet you're arguing against them like a mental person. DO you want to go back and read what I wrote again and formulate a coherent response?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    You are well aware of the statements from NPHET and Government chastising people for their behaviour and the multiple-times-an-hour condescending radio ads reminding everyone to stay the course.
    How about addressing the points raised instead of trying to grandstand?

    Lol nope. The reference above to the alleged direct utterance of the country leadership was even presented in inverted commas as direct speech.

    Tbf there's nothing like a nice bit of made up attribution to generate faux outrage

    But yeah context and veracity remain extremely important when 'addressing' madey uppey quotes

    Sorry none of that suits .... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    gozunda wrote: »
    I think that makes the 9575th entry in the Covid TWWNS database.

    Obviously no need for any actual link to the "country leadership" stating "people are misbehaving" for that to be a bona fide official entry

    Thank you for your participation....

    What a dreary high horse response...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭NIAC Fanboy


    I'd be obliged if you could point out where I linked litter and covid, thanks.

    Or where I mentioned Holohan.

    Or where I said they were breaking restrictions.

    I never said any of those things and yet you're arguing against them like a mental person. DO you want to go back and read what I wrote again and formulate a coherent response?

    This is a thread about covid, I am sure there are general litter threads about for people who want to discuss litter as an ongoing issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    What a dreary high horse response...

    Well its a bit of humour - but the comment certainly does not step outside the usual standard of direct reporting here to be fair

    That is of course unless you have a link for the "country leadership stating "people are misbehaving"?

    No?

    No worries ;)


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