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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #2012
    faolteam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭faolteam


    Could someone tell me what is the main says in reporting number of deaths now , is this to make it look ok


  • #2013
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not sure of the wisdom of this at all!



    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57227244

    WTF!! :eek:

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #2014
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    The hospital numbers have been creeping up since the hack! There was 99 in hospitals on the 13th of May. The lack of physical data since...... I don’t know why they’ve stagnated. I was expecting a slow down In discharges but not this slow or stagnant

    Still below NPHETs best case scenario.

    It's Monday you'd expect a decent drop tonight but those numbers are unavailable nightly


  • #2015
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The HSE IT systems are still down, we can’t even report confirmed cases atm, only positive swabs. It’s not a conspiracy.


  • #2016
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Hospital number disappointing. Was below 100 at one point Im sure.

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1396862599766159364

    They always increase over the weekend


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  • #2017
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    When do people think that mass testing for covid will stop? Will it go on for years? Heading into next winter will any person that presents with a sore throat or sniffle be automatically sent for a covid test?


  • #2018
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    The hospital numbers have been creeping up since the hack! There was 99 in hospitals on the 13th of May. The lack of physical data since...... I don’t know why they’ve stagnated. I was expecting a slow down In discharges but not this slow or stagnant

    The data may well not be accurate. It is probably based on ringing up the various hospitals and asking them, rather than being based on what's on a system.

    Anyway, our case numbers have been at the same level for a good few weeks now, so you'd expect hospital numbers to level off.


  • #2019
    Beasty
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    Threads merged


  • #2020
    Sweet.Science
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    Just checking RTE website it has daily case numbers and hospital numbers . Doesn't mention anything about deaths though which is strange


  • #2021
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,277 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    The hospital numbers have been creeping up since the hack! There was 99 in hospitals on the 13th of May. The lack of physical data since...... I don’t know why they’ve stagnated. I was expecting a slow down In discharges but not this slow or stagnant

    Source?

    According to this the number for 13 May was 111

    https://hub.arcgis.com/datasets/fe9bb23592ec4142a4f4c2c9bd32f749_0/data?orderBy=Date&orderByAsc=false


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  • #2022
    Bubbaclaus
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    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Just checking RTE website it has daily case numbers and hospital numbers . Doesn't mention anything about deaths though which is strange

    That's been the case since the ransomware attack.


  • #2023
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Míchéal Martin was so weak in his interview with Claire Byrne this morning, who suggested in her line of questioning that we should reintroduce mandatory quarantine from the U.K., forget about indoor dining for the summer, stop reopening society basically. Pathetic yet again from Byrne. Even Pat Kenny is better than her at this stage.


  • #2024
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    That's been the case since the ransomware attack.

    Ah ok .


  • #2025
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭prunudo


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Míchéal Martin was so weak in his interview with Claire Byrne this morning, who suggested in her line of questioning that we should reintroduce mandatory quarantine from the U.K., forget about indoor dining for the summer, stop reopening society basically. Pathetic yet again from Byrne. Even Pat Kenny is better than her at this stage.

    The lack of assertiveness from government when it comes to dealing with questions from the likes of Byrne is part of the reason for mixed messaging and general vagueness over the last 15 months imo.


  • #2026
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Míchéal Martin was so weak in his interview with Claire Byrne this morning, who suggested in her line of questioning that we should reintroduce mandatory quarantine from the U.K., forget about indoor dining for the summer, stop reopening society basically. Pathetic yet again from Byrne. Even Pat Kenny is better than her at this stage.


    Thought it was a shocking interview alright.


  • #2027
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    techdiver wrote: »
    Any news as to when the vaccine registration system will open to the 40 - 44 group? 45's are registering today but there seems to be no info for tomorrow onwards.

    There tends to be a 7-10 day gap between each group. Also, it was done in 10-year-groupings i.e. 50-59, 60-69, so not sure if they'll now do 40-44, then the same gap, then 35-39, etc..

    We were told a couple of weeks ago that every age group would know when we would be able to register but it seems the ransomware attack has them moving slower/more cautiously.


  • #2028
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Míchéal Martin was so weak in his interview with Claire Byrne this morning, who suggested in her line of questioning that we should reintroduce mandatory quarantine from the U.K., forget about indoor dining for the summer, stop reopening society basically. Pathetic yet again from Byrne. Even Pat Kenny is better than her at this stage.

    I can understand it from Pat. He's in an at risk age group so would be feeling the fear of covid (similar to Eamon Dunphy). But Claire Byrne I just don't get at all.


  • #2029
    faolteam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭faolteam


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Just checking RTE website it has daily case numbers and hospital numbers . Doesn't mention anything about deaths though which is strange

    Yes you really have to wonder why :rolleyes:


  • #2030
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Lumen wrote: »
    Source?

    According to this the number for 13 May was 111

    https://hub.arcgis.com/datasets/fe9bb23592ec4142a4f4c2c9bd32f749_0/data?orderBy=Date&orderByAsc=false

    There you go

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-2000-13-may-2021.pdf


  • #2031
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,277 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    There you go

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-2000-13-may-2021.pdf

    Thanks. Looks like 8am vs 8pm figures.


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  • #2032
    Dickie10
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    are NYPHET still doing daily news tv slots each evening at 6:30?


  • #2033
    bikeman1
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    Dickie10 wrote: »
    are NYPHET still doing daily news tv slots each evening at 6:30?

    No, once a week on a Friday afternoon, around 2-3pm.

    Thankfully they have disappeared to almost irrelevance. They should never have been given that platform. My Dad was in a big panic last week after Holohan's comments about "dark clouds" re: Indian variant etc. Said it will all be bad here again and that the vaccines don't work etc.

    At this stage they (NPHET) should just send official letters to the Dept. of Health and let the government make their own (probably useless) decisions.


  • #2034
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    No, once a week on a Friday afternoon, around 2-3pm.

    Thankfully they have disappeared to almost irrelevance. They should never have been given that platform. My Dad was in a big panic last week after Holohan's comments about "dark clouds" re: Indian variant etc. Said it will all be bad here again and that the vaccines don't work etc.

    At this stage they (NPHET) should just send official letters to the Dept. of Health and let the government make their own (probably useless) decisions.

    As a matter of interest, if you believe that NPHET and the government have been useless, what would you have suggested as an alternative?


  • #2035
    bikeman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    As a matter of interest, if you believe that NPHET and the government have been useless, what would you have suggested as an alternative?

    I don't have time to go through it properly but some highlights for me would be:

    Nursing Homes.
    Lack of adopting the mandatory wearing of masks (Asian countries did this on day 1) for months.
    Continued fear and closure of the economy in June last year with a handful of cases.
    Punitive travel restrictions that had no scientific basis (locking densely populated city areas to 5km).
    A "meaningful Christmas"
    Not having a proper test and trace system in place after 9 months by the end of December / January.
    One of the longest lockdowns in the world despite the hospitals being empty.
    MHQ locking away healthy people returning to Ireland for essential purposes and the whole handling of the thing.
    Poor communication from the government nearly throughout. Kiteflying, non answers, non commitment etc.

    They would be some of my "highlights" on my view why they - NPHET and the government have been useless.


  • #2036
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    I don't have time to go through it properly but some highlights for me would be:

    Nursing Homes.
    Lack of adopting the mandatory wearing of masks (Asian countries did this on day 1) for months.
    Continued fear and closure of the economy in June last year with a handful of cases.
    Punitive travel restrictions that had no scientific basis (locking densely populated city areas to 5km).
    A "meaningful Christmas"
    Not having a proper test and trace system in place after 9 months by the end of December / January.
    One of the longest lockdowns in the world despite the hospitals being empty.
    MHQ locking away healthy people returning to Ireland for essential purposes and the whole handling of the thing.
    Poor communication from the government nearly throughout. Kiteflying, non answers, non commitment etc.

    They would be some of my "highlights" on my view why they - NPHET and the government have been useless.

    Sure. But what would your alternative to the government and NPHET have been?


  • #2037
    feelings
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭feelings


    Any recent information regarding the number of vaccines delivered, vaccines administered etc?


  • #2038
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    feelings wrote: »
    Any recent information regarding the number of vaccines delivered, vaccines administered etc?

    Vaccine thread would be your best bet for that.

    Will cross the 2.5m threshold for vaccines administered today.


  • #2039
    faolteam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭faolteam


    Why was the wearing of face masks at the very beginning not mandatory when evidence was there it should ?


  • #2040
    Mike3549
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    faolteam wrote: »
    Why was the wearing of face masks at the very beginning not mandatory when evidence was there it should ?

    There was a shortage of masks, if public bought them, there woyld be none left for hcw


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  • #2041
    Pdoghue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Sure. But what would your alternative to the government and NPHET have been?

    I'm not sure what you're asking here.

    Is it: was there an alternative authority (e.g. in the private sector) that could have handled the pandemic better? Or was it the way the government and NPHET handled it?

    To answer my first question, I don't happen to believe so. The state including NPHET was clearly the most appropriate. No private sector body could have harnessed the citizens as well as the state.

    To answer my second question, I think the government and NPHET made certain mistakes at certain stages, examples of which were provided by bikeman1, so yes they could have done things better. But those decisions were not easy.


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