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Ricey3509 · 18-05-2021 7:30pm #1

I'm looking for some advice or at least some validation of my thoughts

I've had an ebike since the tail end of last summer (Cube Nature) which I bought with the intention of cycling to work and to hopefully get myself a little fitter without being a sweaty mess when I arrived in the office.

As things turned out I never went back into the office and it looks like I won't more than a day or so per week until the end of the year (or I change job!), so the commuting reason to keep the ebike is mostly gone. I've also been out cycling quite a bit and my fitness has improved to the point that most of the time I ride with the assistance off. However, its a heavy bike (20+ Kg) and I'm thinking I might be better served by getting a lighter non ebike. I'm not interested in getting a full on road racer but was thinking of a hybrid flat bar like the canyon roadlite or cannondale quick disc as a replacement - any opinions on these?

As regards selling the cube , I've never traded a bike in but I assume it follows the same model as with cars i.e. you'd get a better overall deal by selling privately or do bikes shops offer decent trade in values?

DaveyDave · 19-05-2021 9:00pm

If you have a decent base fitness then a nice hybrid like the Roadlite will be very nippy. I started cycling on a 15kg Lapierre hardtail mountain bike for a few years then went to a 9kg Roadlite (drop bar version) and it was like a rocket. Average speed went from 22-23kph to 30-32kph, better bike mixed with good training from the heavier bike.

I don't know much about trading in a bike but I imagine a private sale is best.

I'd say avoid a suspension fork as they're unnecessary and heavy, if you want comfort a nice wide set of tyres will help along with a decent saddle.

I'm on my third Canyon, I had a Roadlite AL 6.0 (drop bar) and currently have an Endurace CF 7.0 and Endurace ON ebike, nice bikes. Only issue is the fork are an odd size so you might not have many stem options if you want to change and their headset bearings can be their own sizing and expensive to replace but that's not something you need to replace often.

Ricey3509 · 20-05-2021 7:41pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

If you have a decent base fitness then a nice hybrid like the Roadlite will be very nippy. I started cycling on a 15kg Lapierre hardtail mountain bike for a few years then went to a 9kg Roadlite (drop bar version) and it was like a rocket. Average speed went from 22-23kph to 30-32kph, better bike mixed with good training from the heavier bike.

I don't know much about trading in a bike but I imagine a private sale is best.

I'd say avoid a suspension fork as they're unnecessary and heavy, if you want comfort a nice wide set of tyres will help along with a decent saddle.

I'm on my third Canyon, I had a Roadlite AL 6.0 (drop bar) and currently have an Endurace CF 7.0 and Endurace ON ebike, nice bikes. Only issue is the fork are an odd size so you might not have many stem options if you want to change and their headset bearings can be their own sizing and expensive to replace but that's not something you need to replace often.

Thanks for the reply

I'm averaging very similar average speeds to you, around 23/24 km/h with assistance off. I'm going to pop back to the shop (cycle superstore) where I bought the bike and see what sort of trade in they'd offer me.

The roadlite 7 is my favourite at the moment but doesn't look like it will be in stock until July but cycle superstore have the cannondale quick disc 1 in stock. They look similar spec to my untrained eye but I prefer the look of the roadlite :

Roadlite 7
Quick Disc 1

Wishbone Ash · 20-05-2021 7:59pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

..I don't know much about trading in a bike....

Most bike shops wouldn't be interested in doing a trade in.

Seth Brundle · 20-05-2021 8:10pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Most bike shops wouldn't be interested in doing a trade in.

CSS do sell used bikes though

Wishbone Ash · 20-05-2021 8:28pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

CSS do sell used bikes though

Yes, I posted before I saw it mentioned in his/her second post.

Ricey3509 · 13-06-2021 1:46pm

Thought I'd bring this thread up to date, sold the ebike privately and after taking a friend of mines synapse out for a spin decided to get a road bike instead of the roadlite. A Canyon Endurace Al 7.0 popped up in my size on the canyon outlet store last week , looks like it will get delivered next week. Looking forward to it now!

DaveyDave · 13-06-2021 2:38pm

Happy days, lovely bike. Shimano 105 is the sweet spot of price to performance in my opinion. Something like the Endurace AL is a big upgrade over the typical hybrid or hardtail mountain bike a lot of people start off cycling on.

It might not be an issue for you but if you find the braking performance isn't great particularly in the wet I'd recommend swapping the 105 pads out for something from SwissStop.

Ricey3509 · 13-06-2021 3:30pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

Happy days, lovely bike. Shimano 105 is the sweet spot of price to performance in my opinion. Something like the Endurace AL is a big upgrade over the typical hybrid or hardtail mountain bike a lot of people start off cycling on.

It might not be an issue for you but if you find the braking performance isn't great particularly in the wet I'd recommend swapping the 105 pads out for something from SwissStop.

I thought about waiting for a disc brake bike to come up but I’m basically a fair weather cyclist so not too concerned about wet weather performance but thanks for the steer on the swissstop.

byrnem31 · 13-06-2021 4:11pm

That can't be right, in stock and all?

byrnem31 · 13-06-2021 4:12pm

byrnem31 wrote: »

That can't be right, in stock and all?

https://bikesoutlet.biz/product/canyon-endurace-al-disc-7-0/

MojoMaker · 13-06-2021 5:37pm

Worth a punt at that price no doubt. Proven frame and 105 won't see you wrong.

secman · 13-06-2021 5:47pm

MojoMaker wrote: »

Worth a punt at that price no doubt. Proven frame and 105 won't see you wrong.

Perfect for a winter bike

Ricey3509 · 13-06-2021 5:47pm

Hmmmm, is that site legit?

Ricey3509 · 13-06-2021 6:15pm

Ricey3509 wrote: »

Hmmmm, is that site legit?

Googled it and definitely looks like a scam site

Plastik · 13-06-2021 7:56pm

You can't buy a new Canyon from anyone other than Canyon direct.

byrnem31 · 13-06-2021 8:00pm

It's a definite scam.

Ricey3509 · 14-06-2021 11:35am

Another question, the Endurace comes with 25mm tyres as standard, should I consider switching to 28mm immediately or see how I get on with the 25mm?

My amateur googling suggests the 28mm would make for a more comfortable ride.

DaveyDave · 14-06-2021 9:18pm

Ricey3509 wrote: »

Another question, the Endurace comes with 25mm tyres as standard, should I consider switching to 28mm immediately or see how I get on with the 25mm?

My amateur googling suggests the 28mm would make for a more comfortable ride.

I'd say see how you get on with the stock tyres first then you can figure out if you want wider for comfort but you also might want something a bit lighter/faster such as GP5000 or maybe a bit more puncture resistance such as the GP 4 Seasons, Gatorskins etc.

I had 32c Schwalbe E One tyres on my Endurace ON for a few weeks, switched to 26c Pirelli Cinturato Velo and I can't really say they're any less comfortable. The 32c tyres felt bloated to me, 26c feel slicker and more in tune with the road surface if that makes sense but i prefer skinny tyres, high pressure and good feedback with the road. Same when I went from 23c to 25c, didn't notice any difference. Maybe it's just me!

Ricey3509 · 17-06-2021 8:20pm

DaveyDave wrote: »

I'd say see how you get on with the stock tyres first then you can figure out if you want wider for comfort but you also might want something a bit lighter/faster such as GP5000 or maybe a bit more puncture resistance such as the GP 4 Seasons, Gatorskins etc.

I had 32c Schwalbe E One tyres on my Endurace ON for a few weeks, switched to 26c Pirelli Cinturato Velo and I can't really say they're any less comfortable. The 32c tyres felt bloated to me, 26c feel slicker and more in tune with the road surface if that makes sense but i prefer skinny tyres, high pressure and good feedback with the road. Same when I went from 23c to 25c, didn't notice any difference. Maybe it's just me!

So bike turned up today , minor scratch on seat post which was why it was in the outlet otherwise perfect. Rear wheel was punctured so first job was to put a new tube in. Only had a brief spin but I’ve never been on a bike like it before, fast, really smooth and very comfortable. The seat looked like it would be v uncomfortable but actually found it comfy , it’s a sella italia boost.

Anyhow, so far so good, looking forward to getting out for a longer spin at the weekend.

Ricey3509 · 17-05-2023 7:47am

Resurrecting this thread as I’m looking for a steer on my next bike. I had an op on my shoulder not so long ago and I’m struggling with holding my position on the bike over longer distances and my physio has suggested I need to look at a more upright riding position. The endurace is on the racier side of endurance bikes so I’m looking at something more relaxed. I’ve been looking at geometries on 99spokes and the Trek Domane seems amongst the most relaxed , a friend also suggested a gravel bike but I’ll never go near gravel 😎.

any thoughts? I’d like to avoid going to a flat bar if possible as I’m expecting my shoulder to recover albeit slowly.

gn3dr · 18-05-2023 6:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120606406#Comment_120606406

If the position chqnge is temporary why not just adjust the position on your current bike. E.g shorter or more upward angled stem ( or turn your own stem upside down)

Macy0161 · 19-05-2023 10:06am

Flip the stem would be the first thing. And then look at alternative stems. Or go to someone like aidan hammond who is a bike fitter and a physical therapist (either for current bike or advice on the new one).

Ricey3509 · 20-05-2023 6:34am

Thanks for the suggestions - I dropped in to my lbs and they suggested getting a fit before doing anything and gave me the name of someone local, so I’m going to make an appointment with him and see what he suggests.

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