Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

EDit wrote: »

Real-world data are key and, as far as i am aware, they suggest that there is little difference between the vaccines (at least for the AZ, Pfizer and Moderna ones... may be too early for real-world data on JnJ)

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I have to say I felt like I had won gold simply by getting a vaccine at all

Complete armchair opinion here (but I do try to stay as informed as I can), but I guess my medal metaphor was based on perceptions too. If you put the 4 vaccines on a table in front of someone and said "take your pick", I'm pretty confident that the vast majority would go for Pfizer (although some would opt for the convenience of the one shot J&J).

I do take the point about the efficacy and real world data and even with my almost non-existent knowledge of this area, I have that same sense of things. If I ended up with not with no choice, I'd hope for AZ over J&J because of the real world data point...but would still prefer the MRNA.

revelman wrote: »

I think we will find that it will have been a photo finish at the end of this pandemic. We cannot say now who has won the gold medal.

Fair point.

Happydays2020 wrote: »

No idea how long she will have to wait. She will need to ask HSE but they may be cagey also.

I would guess not more than a few months but bear in mind JJ is one shot - vaccinated after 14 days. Pfizer is two. Two shots 4 weeks apart and vaccinated 14 days after the second shot.

7 days after the second shot for Pfizer still a much longer wait (5 weeks total) than the 2 weeks with J&J

naughtysmurf wrote: »

My mrs is 50 & has been offered Janssen & she is considering not accepting due to the lower efficacy & the clotting issue but more so the lower efficacy & waiting for a nMRA option, any thoughts on how long that wait may be? If it was only a couple of months max, I’d say she may wait


She’s working from home & at very low risk of getting infected herself only goes out to walk the mutt

I think the risk of death is somewhere in the 1 in a million range. To put that in context, the risk of being killed on Irish roads this year is ~ 1 in 30,000. The risk of if being killed on the road in the next 5 years is ~ 1 in 6,000.

Cloudio9 wrote: »

I think the risk of death is somewhere in the 1 in a million range. To put that in context, the risk of being killed on Irish roads this year is ~ 1 in 30,000. The risk of if being killed on the road in the next 5 years is ~ 1 in 6,000.

Yes but we do not know the individual’s personal or family medical history. Best that the person talks to a medical expert rather than take advice on a forum.

deeperlearning wrote: »

The EU did not renew its AstraZeneca order beyond June.

Oh okay, I did not know that!

I'm normally up to date but it's exam time in college and I am trying not to have distractions.. :pac:

I must say, it's absolutely KILLING me not knowing vaccine figures in the last few days lol :pac:

deeperlearning wrote: »

The EU did not renew its AstraZeneca order beyond June.

Deliveries will still come in beyond June. Initial contract still needs to be fulfilled.

naughtysmurf wrote: »

Well she’s gone ahead and cancelled her Janssen, what happens now? She’s not it the best of form so I’ll keep a low profile for a while, It didn’t help that I got Moderna during the week & next door neighbour same age as her got Pfizer

Just has to wait for another text, the text could well be an appointment for J&J again.

funnydoggy wrote: »

Oh so my original question still has legs then?

Do you know so if they'll be allocated AZ?

Personally I doubt it, can't see the age being lowered again.

Given the rate AZ deliver and the number of 2nd doses that'll start coming due soon I wouldn't foresee it being used all that much in the 40s either

funnydoggy wrote: »

Is there a chance the younger groups will be given AZ?

Just thinking.. if a 20 something year old gets their jab in July or sometime and then has to wait 3 months for their second dose.. that's some dose.

(Fwiw I'm not a 20 something lol)

Europe has stopped ordering AZ. They are mainly going with pfzier.
Most of the AZ order is being kept for second doses

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

There will still be deliveries after June. But the answer the OP's question, I think it's unlikely that it'll be approved again for people in their 20's.

The EU want them to complete the original order, as per contract. After that there may well be no more and we should see CureVac coming our way over the next couple of months.

pc7 wrote: »

Helix seems to be at 53 for Friday, great to see the centres romp down the years.

Only in some parts of the country. Poster of 60 only getting their shot about now and a lot of older 50 somethings still in the queue with no vaccination dates.

is_that_so wrote: »

Only in some parts of the country. Poster of 60 only getting their shot about now and a lot of older 50 somethings still in the queue with no vaccination dates.

I know of people in their 30's getting it now with no medical history. I know of surgeries in Donegal, Cork and Kerry over ordered and are vaccination 30 year olds now!!!


So we will always get the rear case but in general we are motoring along and catching up the UK. We will by pass them with the 4 week pfzier also.


Also know a few 60 year olds in England who haven't gotten it.

average_runner wrote: »

I know of people in their 30's getting it now with no medical history. I know of surgeries in Donegal, Cork and Kerry over ordered and are vaccination 30 year olds now!!!


So we will always get the rear case but in general we are motoring along and catching up the UK. We will by pass them with the 4 week pfzier also.


Also know a few 60 year olds in England who haven't gotten it.

It's not really a rarity, under 60's have not been started in parts of the northeast. I know of people in the Ashbourne area in their early fifties who've been directed to the Helix, but others further north are still waiting. At best it's uneven, very uneven in some places and it won't level off until June.