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notAMember · 17-05-2021 06:38AM

XP!

Good grief. Well, this is a hard way to learn that lesson.

JP Liz V1 · 17-05-2021 02:59PM

Chuck Noland wrote: »

HSE were warned numerous times they were wide open to this. Servers nearly 20 years still in use. Windows XP operating systems with out proper encryption etc. it’s not a surprise they got in but what is a surprise is how long they were in the system watching things before locking the HSE out

I thought HSE would have good high tech quality IT security but I guess nothing is 100% safe from an hacking attack

ACitizenErased · 17-05-2021 03:22PM

XP is a bit of an exaggeration. I know that the CUH is running Windows 10.

Chuck Noland · 17-05-2021 03:52PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

XP is a bit of an exaggeration. I know that the CUH is running Windows 10.

If my original post my misleading I’ll clarify it now, parts of the HSE were still running those old operating systems and your only as strong as your weakest link.

JP Liz V1 · 17-05-2021 05:20PM

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1394322690379501568

cadaliac · 17-05-2021 06:28PM

Chuck Noland wrote: »

If my original post my misleading I’ll clarify it now, parts of the HSE were still running those old operating systems and your only as strong as your weakest link.

Ya, more than likely older lab systems are still on XP. But, the outer protection Web facing servers (firewalled off from internal systems) would all be up to date I'm sure.
As another poster mentioned, there isn't a 100% secure IT system - everything has flaws.

blindsider · 17-05-2021 07:46PM

Didn't I hear that they are running Windows 7 which is obsolete and only getting tech support from Microsoft under special license?

surely it'd be cheaper (and easier to administer) to upgrade?

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/windows-7-support-ends-hse-upgrade

13/01/20

Such a damning article!

JP Liz V1 · 17-05-2021 09:24PM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40291736.html

Rathcormac school outbreak

ACitizenErased · 17-05-2021 09:58PM

Sounds like there's very significant outbreaks across north cork

Level 42 · 18-05-2021 08:25AM

testing centre on the douglas road was opened again yesterday -wonder is that due to increased demand

Cape Clear · 18-05-2021 08:51AM

blindsider wrote: »

Didn't I hear that they are running Windows 7 which is obsolete and only getting tech support from Microsoft under special license?

surely it'd be cheaper (and easier to administer) to upgrade?

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/windows-7-support-ends-hse-upgrade

13/01/20

Such a damning article!

Basic error probably the tip of the iceberg.

Oafley Jones · 18-05-2021 11:50AM

Yesterday, and the day before, they were trying to control traffic into the Blackpool testing centre. I've never seen anywhere near that volume of cars before, at any stage.

deeperlearning · 18-05-2021 02:52PM

There seems to be an awful lot of cases in schools in Cork in recent weeks.

A few weeks ago, it was Youghal and Midleton. Then Carrigaline and Douglas, followed by Ballincollig and Cloghroe were affected. Rathcormac and Fermoy were particularly badly hit last week but this week it seems to be schools in the north of the city.

corkie · 18-05-2021 05:10PM

358 additional cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed
this number of cases may change due to future data validation
102 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 39 are in ICU

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1394684544566104070

jojofizzio · 18-05-2021 06:39PM

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Yesterday, and the day before, they were trying to control traffic into the Blackpool testing centre. I've never seen anywhere near that volume of cars before, at any stage.

The booking system is down owing to the cyber hack,centres operating as walk-in,this is why the South Douglas Road centre has re-opened

limnam · 18-05-2021 07:44PM

corkie wrote: »

102 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 39 are in ICU

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1394684544566104070

Does this sound very high considering the % of recent cases for under 45's ?

questionmark? · 18-05-2021 11:45PM

limnam wrote: »

Does this sound very high considering the % of recent cases for under 45's ?

Not really. A lot of those 102 will have been in hospital for a few weeks. Vaccinations are still in the early stages. Hospital case numbers v recorded cases link has now been broke due to the vaccines effect starting to kick in(starting been the key here) Also consider we have a population of approx 4.9m. Of course I would love to see that figure in hospital at zero but we need to be realistic.

Widdensushi · 19-05-2021 12:05AM

questionmark? wrote: »

Not really. A lot of those 102 will have been in hospital for a few weeks. Vaccinations are still in the early stages. Hospital case numbers v recorded cases link has now been broke due to the vaccines effect starting to kick in(starting been the key here) Also consider we have a population of approx 4.9m. Of course I would love to see that figure in hospital at zero but we need to be realistic.

Exactly, current hospital figures are a residual from when the numbers were in the thousands, the big reduction in hospital numbers has in a large part been achieved due to the vaccination of hospital staff, unfortunately as much as 50% of the in hospital numbers at times were getting covid in hospital. Testing figures are approximately 3 times as high now as a year ago, the most vulnerable have been vaccinated, at a guesstimate 5000 cases a day would be the equivalent to 500 a day as this time last year in hospital admissions / mortality.

deeperlearning · 19-05-2021 12:13AM

Most under 70s do not yet have immunity as it takes two weeks or so for immunity to build after the first vaccine.

Some of those in the 50-69 age cohort who contracted the virus in early May are still experiencing severe disease and being admitted to hospital. In the coming weeks, the numbers admitted should hopefully fall off significantly as the vaccines start to take effect.

deeperlearning · 19-05-2021 12:17AM

limnam wrote: »

Does this sound very high considering the % of recent cases for under 45's ?

Not really as most 50-69 year-olds do not yet have immunity as it takes two weeks or so for immunity to build after the first vaccine. Some of those in the 50-69 age cohort who contracted the virus in early May are still experiencing severe disease and are now being admitted to hospital.

In the coming weeks, the numbers of hospital admissions in this cohort should hopefully fall off significantly as the vaccines start to take effect.

the beer revolu · 19-05-2021 08:36AM

The single dose Janssen vaccine is being rolled out now. I'm booked for Friday in City Hall

leeside11 · 19-05-2021 08:49AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

The single dose Janssen vaccine is being rolled out now. I'm booked for Friday in City Hall

Brother is getting the Janssen Parc Ui Chaoimh Saturday

shtpEdthePlum · 19-05-2021 08:53AM

So as a person with health issues under 60 who was vaccinated in early April, you're going to be waiting until June for your second jab of AZ and it could be July before you're fully inoculated.

But the under 60s with no underlying conditions are getting the one jab vaccine right now and will be immune in two weeks.

I expected utter idiocy. I never expected it would be this staggering.

namloc1980 · 19-05-2021 10:28AM

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

So as a person with health issues under 60 who was vaccinated in early April, you're going to be waiting until June for your second jab of AZ and it could be July before you're fully inoculated.

But the under 60s with no underlying conditions are getting the one jab vaccine right now and will be immune in two weeks.

I expected utter idiocy. I never expected it would be this staggering.

The first dose of AZ offers significant levels of protection. That person you mentioned could have chosen to wait for the J&J option but they would have left themselves vulnerable for 2-3 months. In any case J&J wasn't available in Ireland in early April.

questionmark? · 19-05-2021 12:13PM

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

So as a person with health issues under 60 who was vaccinated in early April, you're going to be waiting until June for your second jab of AZ and it could be July before you're fully inoculated.

But the under 60s with no underlying conditions are getting the one jab vaccine right now and will be immune in two weeks.

I expected utter idiocy. I never expected it would be this staggering.

I'm sorry but your totally wrong with your assessment.

AZ was available before JJ. Best vaccine is the quickest one you can get in your arm.
AZ one shot provides very good protection and is in the same range as JJ. AZ is 76% effective after 3 weeks or so against symptomatic infection. Trials showed there was no severe cases or death after 22 days of the first jab. The second jab brings up the efficiency even more against symptomatic infection and reduced risks of transmitting it.
JJ is 67% effective against moderate to severe Covid after 2 weeks. After 4 weeks trials showed nobody even those with signs of infection got hospitalised.
Also add that vaccines appear to be more effective in real world than in the trials so expect those figures to improve.
Loads of data out there from reputable sources.

notAMember · 19-05-2021 12:53PM

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

So as a person with health issues under 60 who was vaccinated in early April, you're going to be waiting until June for your second jab of AZ and it could be July before you're fully inoculated.

But the under 60s with no underlying conditions are getting the one jab vaccine right now and will be immune in two weeks.

I expected utter idiocy. I never expected it would be this staggering.

That's a misunderstanding of how these vaccines were authorised for use.

The vaccines are very close in efficacy. The fundamental difference between one jab vs two is related to how their trials were run, and how they applied for authorisation.

AZ ran trials with 2 jabs, not one, and applied for authorisation based on that.
J&J ran trials with 1 jab and applied for authorisation based on that.

Both AZ and J&J after 1 jab have very similar levels of covid protection.

shtpEdthePlum · 19-05-2021 01:57PM

Oh, I didn't realise after the first dose AZ had 76% efficacy. I take it back, in that case.

Although it may not protect against other strains, so J&J seems somewhat preferable in that respect.

I also agree that the best jab is whatever is available... Until any side effects affect you. But the changes are low enough to be irrelevant, you'd have to be very unlucky.

ACitizenErased · 19-05-2021 02:01PM

Walk in testing in UCC tomorrow from 11 to 7.

opus · 19-05-2021 04:13PM

Had my first visit to City Hall this morning to get up close & personal with Mr Pfizer, super efficient was out the door in ~25 mins. Interesting to hear from a colleague that he's been scheduled for J&J at Pairc Ui Chaoimh on Sat morning. Hadn't realised that was being used.

corkie · 19-05-2021 05:05PM

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1395047352826802179

As of midnight, Tuesday 18th May, the @hpscireland
has been notified of 503* confirmed cases of #COVID19.

38 in ICU. 101 in hospital.

*Daily case numbers may change due to future data validation.

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