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Job offer: starting salary scale query?

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  • 18-05-2021 10:27pm
    #1
    BittenByTheBug
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭


    I've been offered a job and sent a contract to sign which states a specific salary scale. Money wasn't discussed at the interview stage or before the offer was made verbally.

    The original job advert says the salary scale (X-Y) is "negotiable at point of entry depending on the candidate's skills and experience."

    The 'negotiable' part isn't included in the contract proper, just the range.

    Handbook says salary will be reviewed annually based on performance.

    Stupid question, I'm sure, but not used to this: how do you negotiate the starting salary before formally accepting, ie. signing the contract?

    And if you quote them a figure, do you stay on that or does it increase incrementally to the upper limit?

    Appreciate any advice.


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    #2
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Just say you’re very excited by the offer but need to discuss starting salary before accepting.

    You know what the range is so be ready to argue your case for what you want.


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    #3
    FluffPiece
    Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭FluffPiece


    Public or private sector?


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    [Deleted User]
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    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Just say you’re very excited by the offer but need to discuss starting salary before accepting.

    You know what the range is so be ready to argue your case for what you want.

    Do this


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    blindsider
    Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭blindsider


    ...and if needed, emphasise that the job advert stated "negotiable at point of entry..."

    ...now you'd like to negotiate!

    If they won't, take it as a bad sign!


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    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,391 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    I don't know how they can expect you to sign the contract unless you are prepared to take the lowest amount in the salary range. I'd tell them you can't sign it without knowing the actual salary amount.


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    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    How do you have a contract that doesn't even state what point on the scale you are starting on?


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    The DayDream
    Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭The DayDream


    Well you can bet they think they are getting you for the lowest end of the scale. You need to ask for the highest end to get the middle.

    Don't think it's being cheeky, it's the only way you will end up without getting the low end. If you ask for the middle theyre gonna negotiate lower.


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    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    How do you have a contract that doesn't even state what point on the scale you are starting on?

    Probably the clown HR person copying and pasting something she found on the internet while scrolling through her instagram feed.


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    kathleen37
    Registered Users Posts: 810 ✭✭✭kathleen37


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Probably the clown HR person copying and pasting something she found on the internet while scrolling through her instagram feed.

    "her" instagram feed?


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    #11
    OMM 0000
    Registered Users Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    kathleen37 wrote: »
    "her" instagram feed?

    Imagine getting offended by the word "her".

    Are you trying to pretend most HR people aren't women?

    HR is overwhelmingly white and female, data indicates


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    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,293 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    judywriter wrote: »
    How do you ask for more salary after a job offer?

    Simple.

    Say thanks for the offer but it's a bit below your expectations


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