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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    'Staff voted to reject pay cuts'...

    Then hire new staff. :rolleyes:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0517/1222130-rte-to-seek-additional-voluntary-redundancies/

    With the exception of sport the days of live TV are numbered and RTE are flogging a dead horse to try keep the gravy training running.

    For what these people are producing it is no where near worth €160 per year its pure extortion to make people pay this fee in the year 2021 - also I think by putting a broadcast charge in is unfair to people like me who have no interest in RTEs programing.

    I've said it on numerous occasions in order to make this work it needs to be scaled back completely to something what TV3 is now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,402 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    'Staff voted to reject pay cuts'...

    Then hire new staff. :rolleyes:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0517/1222130-rte-to-seek-additional-voluntary-redundancies/

    I'm sure you have bright future ahead of you but I doubt it's in industrial relations. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    elperello wrote: »
    I'm sure you have bright future ahead of you but I doubt it's in industrial relations. :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    With the Eurovision Song Contest Final taking place this Saturday, RTÉ isn't bothering with the Main Evening News (usually on at some time shortly before or after 9 on a Saturday) on that evening - it was the same in 2019. I remember that a full-length bulletin was broadcast on RTÉ 2 when the Eurovision final coincided with the result of the same-sex marriage referendum. So why doesn't RTÉ do that with the news every year when the Eurovision final is taking place?

    Imagine if they did this for sporting events :pac:

    RTÉ have cut back on all news.

    Look at youtube you'll see some clips of morning and late night news, you will not see this anymore.

    Also, if I was working in RTÉ I would have rejected that pay proposal, it didn't help anyone, it was hurriedly written as if they had had one meeting at 3:45 on a Friday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0517/1222130-rte-to-seek-additional-voluntary-redundancies/
    The company will also be tendering for a wide-ranging review and restructuring of its grading system and skills requirements, with a view to "rationalising and enhancing organisation agility".

    I have been here 5 years, did very little to implement or consider a new grading systems, so its best that I and my team, tender for this work!

    Who to blame COVID, Sporting events that didn't happen, COVID, the license fee, COVID, commercial revenue, COVID.

    Suppose that move of the NSO to the NCH hasn't happened yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,590 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    How are these guys still contracting for full time jobs (well permanent jobs) - didn't Revenue tell them no more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0517/1222130-rte-to-seek-additional-voluntary-redundancies/



    I have been here 5 years, did very little to implement or consider a new grading systems, so its best that I and my team, tender for this work!

    Who to blame COVID, Sporting events that didn't happen, COVID, the license fee, COVID, commercial revenue, COVID.

    Suppose that move of the NSO to the NCH hasn't happened yet.

    The mystery '60 million' uncollected fees is now down to '50 million' uncollected fees.

    Good job Dee... you did it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    He is spoofing.
    Probably considers himself broke compared to his peers, and neighbours in Malahide.
    Private contractors make a lot of mistakes with their pension allocations, trying to be too smart.
    Billy big nuts, loading up on properties.
    Balanced managed fund - thats all you need to do, and keep paying into it consistently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    He is spoofing.
    Probably considers himself broke compared to his peers, and neighbours in Malahide.
    Private contractors make a lot of mistakes with their pension allocations, trying to be too smart.
    Billy big nuts, loading up on properties.
    Balanced managed fund - thats all you need to do, and keep paying into it consistently.

    If you are talking about who I think you are talking about, I'd say he could easily get a place in classic hits or even Virgin Media, he prob wouldn't get much from either but they could decide to let the contract end and he could find something else pretty quickly. Though he's not worth keeping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,263 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus



    It's gas cause back in 2017 he was bragging how much he was getting paid

    https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/im-glad-nobody-knows-what-rte-is-paying-me-says-station-stalwart-marty-whelan-36115832.html

    But Marty, No one likes the poor mouth. You've been on rte for 30 years. No one is going to buy your "I'm broke" sh*te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Marty the person probably doesn’t have a lot of cash floating around,
    But I can pretty much guarantee that Marty the company has fine big cash deposits that it only paid corporate tax on, while Marty only ‘earned around €30k a year to keep his tax liability as low as possible…..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Elmo wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0517/1222130-rte-to-seek-additional-voluntary-redundancies/



    I have been here 5 years, did very little to implement or consider a new grading systems, so its best that I and my team, tender for this work!

    Who to blame COVID, Sporting events that didn't happen, COVID, the license fee, COVID, commercial revenue, COVID.

    Suppose that move of the NSO to the NCH hasn't happened yet.

    Covid is saving costs


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Imagine if they did this for sporting events :pac:

    RTÉ have cut back on all news.

    Look at youtube you'll see some clips of morning and late night news, you will not see this anymore.

    Also, if I was working in RTÉ I would have rejected that pay proposal, it didn't help anyone, it was hurriedly written as if they had had one meeting at 3:45 on a Friday.

    Interestingly, it appears that the absence of the Main Evening News on Eurovision Final night hasn't caused most viewers to so much as bat an eyelid! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    3 presenters for the 2FM breakfast show. :rolleyes:

    Donncha O'Callagan and Mullen. Join the team. Why are they joing nobody knows and nobody should care, one can only hope that neither could ever replace the form co-host.

    Maybe he is moving to Game On, yes who replaces Donncha on Game On. After all it couldn't possibly be hosted by just one presenter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭1874


    It's gas cause back in 2017 he was bragging how much he was getting paid

    https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/im-glad-nobody-knows-what-rte-is-paying-me-says-station-stalwart-marty-whelan-36115832.html

    But Marty, No one likes the poor mouth. You've been on rte for 30 years. No one is going to buy your "I'm broke" sh*te.


    I think he is ok to listen to compared to many on the radio, by christ, I despise joe, who is actually painful for me to listen to, that chaps incessant stuttering and jibberish could make me crash my car.


    That said, Marty poor mouthing about his money is bad form, puts me right off him, must be living in cloud cuckoo land. As pointed to in the link, he has caught himself out, not like we didn't have a good idea. It's a quite disgusting thing to say really, given what a lot of people earn and then are left to live on. Someone might come along and say anyone can drag themselves up by the bootstraps, but RTE presenters at the top end are paid out of proportion to their value imo.
    I'm sure it must be available what he is on?


    Marty the person probably doesn’t have a lot of cash floating around,
    But I can pretty much guarantee that Marty the company has fine big cash deposits that it only paid corporate tax on, while Marty only ‘earned around €30k a year to keep his tax liability as low as possible…..


    Most likely the case,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Just seen the ad for ‘Dear Gay’

    Where they’ll be reading letters sent to Gay Byrne’s radio show over the years…….

    Even in death they are still turning to Gay to bring in the viewers….


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,590 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    More innovative programming from RTE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Just seen the ad for ‘Dear Gay’

    Where they’ll be reading letters sent to Gay Byrne’s radio show over the years…….

    Even in death they are still turning to Gay to bring in the viewers….

    RTE using Gay Byrne and Nostalgia to bring in pitiful ratings.

    Cutest-Beating-Dead-Horse-GIF.gif

    I used to really like Reeling in the Years. I've avoided the 2010's one.
    RTE been trading on Nostalgia since Dee took over. I'm tired of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTE using Gay Byrne and Nostalgia to bring in pitiful ratings.

    I used to really like Reeling in the Years. I've avoided the 2010's one.
    RTE been trading on Nostalgia since Dee took over. I'm tired of it.

    There was a report in one of the newspapers a while back at how one of the nostalgia shows had done well and that they had a number of others coming up.... this was retrieved from an FOI to RTÉ for ... their board meetings.... :confused:

    I watched the first Reeling in the Years and it looked very much like... and now the highlights from RTÉ in 2010 rather than a genuine look back ... IMO you need to leave it a few years before you do a retrospective.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,160 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Elmo wrote: »
    There was a report in one of the newspapers a while back at how one of the nostalgia shows had done well and that they had a number of others coming up.... this was retrieved from an FOI to RTÉ for ... their board meetings.... :confused:

    I watched the first Reeling in the Years and it looked very much like... and now the highlights from RTÉ in 2010 rather than a genuine look back ... IMO you need to leave it a few years before you do a retrospective.

    the series covering the 1990s was first aired in 2000. If there is a problem with the new series it is not caused by proximity to the events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    the series covering the 1990s was first aired in 2000. If there is a problem with the new series it is not caused by proximity to the events.

    True, I thought the 90s were 3rd tbh. I don't know I just think the 80s and 70s were the better of all of them followed by the 1990s, obviously there were limitations on the 1960s. The 2000s weren't bad either, and TBH I only watched the first episode of the 2010s. Perhaps it will age better as time goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,198 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    re Reeling in the Years..

    60's, 70's, 80's & 90's were brilliant, with great music

    It all went downhill for the 00's where every 2nd song they used was a Westlife song....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,160 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    re Reeling in the Years..

    60's, 70's, 80's & 90's were brilliant, with great music

    It all went downhill for the 00's where every 2nd song they used was a Westlife song....

    perhaps just a slight exaggeration. They used westlife 3 times in the 2000s. though in fairness that is 3 times too many for my tastes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/7050694/rte-eurovision-boss-set-cost-lesley-roy/

    If you think the station is a “small chronically underfunded broadcaster” and this is the reason Ireland doesn't to well in the Eurovision there are two things

    1. Your not looking at what RTÉ have, and you never will.
    2. You're thinking that eurovision is more important that it actually is (in fairness I did in enjoy the boards eurovision thread).

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/cash-strapped-rte-cant-afford-eurovision-show-says-head-of-delegation-36134473.html

    In 2017 he said: -

    "If we had the money, I would love to see a stand-alone Eurosong final and do it in the Bord Gais Energy Theatre, but unfortunately there's well-published financial difficulties here and we don't have the money for that,"

    Again if you think you have to rent a venue or use The Late Late Show for Eurosong '22 then you really need to consider that you have your own facilities in leafy Dublin 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    re Reeling in the Years..

    60's, 70's, 80's & 90's were brilliant, with great music

    It all went downhill for the 00's where every 2nd song they used was a Westlife song....

    The 90's one got a bit patchy, tbh. Due to the close proximity to recent events. The 80's one had more distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    re Reeling in the Years..

    60's, 70's, 80's & 90's were brilliant, with great music

    It all went downhill for the 00's where every 2nd song they used was a Westlife song....

    TG 4 do their own version as well. Nostalgia as gaeilge in case you missed it on RTE 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    TG 4 do their own version as well. Nostalgia as gaeilge in case you missed it on RTE 1.

    Virgin Media do too, it's called 'Don't look back in Anger'.

    It's interesting seeing how they 'critique' the past, in comparison to how RTE do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    TG 4 do their own version as well. Nostalgia as gaeilge in case you missed it on RTE 1.

    "Suil Sair Na.." has a certain quality to it, one issue I have with it is that it uses a lot of the English language news from RTÉ rather then the TG4/RTÉ Irish language news. https://www.tg4.ie/en/?s=suil+siar

    The TV3/Virgin Media version was to purely celebrate 20 years of TV3.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    BBC NI version is called Pop goes Northern Ireland, quite bleak


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