Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

ligerdub · 04-05-2021 04:22PM

iseegirls wrote: »

Finally I can use these useless stats So I can break it up into 2. This is only Virgin Media 30/Aug/18 to now for most films/tv movies shown:

11 - Circle Of Friends
8 - Oliver Twist
8 - Dirty Dancing
8 - A Mothers Son (2 Part)
8 - Appropriate Adult (2 Part)
8 - Watermelon
8 - Into The Blue
8 - Cardboard Gangsters

And then Total from 20/Sep/98 to now:
22 - Circle Of Friends
22 - The Punisher
21 - Watermelon
18 - Dirty Dancing
16 - Enough
16 - The Expendables 2
16 - It's A Wonderful Life
16 - Men In Black
16 - Paul Blart: Mall Cop
16 - Santa Claus - The Movie
16 - The Snapper

Other odd stats:
There have been a total of 10 Film Premieres across the channels in the past 16 months since 1/1/20.

62 new films* broadcast on VMTV since 1/1/20 - *ones that haven't been shown on TV3 or VMTV before e.g. Saving Private Ryan. Half of them are made-for-tv films.

The Boys From Brazil (that 1978 classic, right?!) was shown 5 times over the space of 4 months last year.

I laughed at this. Great stuff.

ohnonotgmail · 04-05-2021 06:49PM

Elmo wrote: »

I have no problem with either the NSO or the CO, but their budget does need to be examined as much as the rest of RTÉ, they haven't seen a cut in the past decade, 15million per year (including ticket sales of about €2-3 million).

But your right RTÉ management failed to examine those issues also. Just look at how swiftly the NSO is moving to the NCH.

If there is any money wasted on the orchestras it is certainly not being wasted on the orchestra members, which is what you implied. I earn a lot more than even the senior orchestra members and I have a fraction of the talent and done a lot less work to get where I am.

Elmo · 04-05-2021 07:50PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

If there is any money wasted on the orchestras it is certainly not being wasted on the orchestra members, which is what you implied. I earn a lot more than even the senior orchestra members and I have a fraction of the talent and done a lot less work to get where I am.

I didn't someone else might have.

I suggested that there is a question on the amount of money given to the NCO and the NSO. And that it is one area that RTÉ avoided cutting.

I don't know how much you are earning but if I was a player I would question the €15m being spend on the music groups. I'd also be asking why the NSO move is taking so long.

But you'd first have to tell me the rate of pay for a player.

ohnonotgmail · 05-05-2021 08:10AM

Elmo wrote: »

I didn't someone else might have.

I suggested that there is a question on the amount of money given to the NCO and the NSO. And that it is one area that RTÉ avoided cutting.

I don't know how much you are earning but if I was a player I would question the €15m being spend on the music groups. I'd also be asking why the NSO move is taking so long.

But you'd first have to tell me the rate of pay for a player.

the salary scale for First Violin is 44-52K.

Hotblack Desiato · 05-05-2021 12:41PM

Well of course they have a "scale" :pac:

frozenfrozen · 05-05-2021 01:31PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Well of course they have a "scale" :pac:

very sharp well played

Elmo · 05-05-2021 02:22PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the salary scale for First Violin is 44-52K.

Thanks so we can say about 50% to 65% of the total budget goes on the players.

The members need to look around. Are they getting value for money in relation to maintenance and administration. In terms of facilities and in terms of new instruments, venues and so on.

For example the CO recently got a new logo, a huge question for an organization trying to ditch its Orchestras has to be, why are we getting a new logo? I am not saying the new logo cost a massive amount of money but could that money have been better spent on Orchestra itself?

These are questions that players should be asking, as should the management team.

07-05-2021 12:31PM

HMRC saying that Gary Lineker was a BBC employee, not a freelancer, and are chasing him for income tax https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/gary-lineker-in-4-9m-tax-battle-in-uk-over-freelance-earnings-1.4557663

Revenue should follow suit and take a look into many of the RTE stars.

jetfiremuck · 07-05-2021 12:45PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the salary scale for First Violin is 44-52K.

Whats the salary and benefits for the musician that plays the triangle ?

Genuine question. The issue is RTE et al is that the full costing in salaries benefits is not transparant. The fact that the Revenue had to get a top up to satisfy some irregularities should raise a few eyebrows if anything.

Sale of montrose etc is the same as adding a glass of water to a swimming pool.

jetfiremuck · 07-05-2021 12:47PM

jetfiremuck wrote: »

Whats the salary and benefits for the musician that plays the triangle ?

Genuine question. The issue is RTE et al is that the full costing in salaries benefits is not transparant. The fact that the Revenue had to get a top up to satisfy some irregularities should raise a few eyebrows if anything.

Sale of montrose etc is the same as adding a glass of water to a swimming pool.

Forgot to add.......the revenue payment may have included penalties etc....at tax payers expense.

DrSerious3 · 09-05-2021 08:57PM

Anyone watching this 'Holy F*ck' programme about curse words on RTE presented by Ardal O'Hanlon?

What a load of crap, jesus christ. They are so utterly devoid of ideas.

elperello · 09-05-2021 09:00PM

DrSerious3 wrote: »

Anyone watching this 'Holy F*ck' programme about curse words on RTE presented by Ardal O'Hanlon?

What a load of crap, jesus christ. They are so utterly devoid of ideas.

I am and I'm enjoying it.

By the way you are due a stoning.

RabbleRouser2k · 09-05-2021 09:01PM

DrSerious3 wrote: »

Anyone watching this 'Holy F*ck' programme about curse words on RTE presented by Ardal O'Hanlon?

What a load of crap, jesus christ. They are so utterly devoid of ideas.

I considered it, watched about 1 minute of it, then wondered if using a cheese grater on my genitals would be more entertaining.

It was-especially when I applied iodine to the shredded remains what used to be my nether regions.

My girlish screams entertained all those around me.

fritzelly · 09-05-2021 09:04PM

Basically a copy of History of Swear Words

RabbleRouser2k · 12-05-2021 06:03PM

'Big' Story on the news about how a 'Hollywood' movie about the lisdoonvarna festival has attracted massive attention from tourists.

It's a TV Hallmark movie, 'As Luck would have it' which has less than 600 ratings as I write this.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13775584/?ref_=rvi_tt

Are they really trying to invent news now? Because this is a non-event, newswise.

fritzelly · 12-05-2021 06:49PM

They're eyeing it up to show later in the year and the years to follow...multiple times

RabbleRouser2k · 12-05-2021 07:13PM

fritzelly wrote: »

They're eyeing it up to show later in the year and the years to follow...multiple times

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RandomViewer · 12-05-2021 07:37PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

'Big' Story on the news about how a 'Hollywood' movie about the lisdoonvarna festival has attracted massive attention from tourists.

It's a TV Hallmark movie, 'As Luck would have it' which has less than 600 ratings as I write this.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13775584/?ref_=rvi_tt

Are they really trying to invent news now? Because this is a non-event, newswise.

It sounds very like a Janeane Garofalo film from about 25 years ago

RabbleRouser2k · 12-05-2021 07:40PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

It sounds very like a Janeane Garofalo film from about 25 years ago

More people saw Wild Mountain Thyme than saw this movie.

Yet only this one is seen as a 'boon'.

Elmo · 13-05-2021 10:26AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

More people saw Wild Mountain Thyme than saw this movie.

Yet only this one is seen as a 'boon'.

Where is the article, Allen Leech would want to be careful signing up to Hallmark films.

RabbleRouser2k · 13-05-2021 10:11PM

Elmo wrote: »

Where is the article, Allen Leech would want to be careful signing up to Hallmark films.

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2021/0512/1221277-lisdoonvarna-matchmaking/

You'll have to scroll down for the video link. That report was shown on RTE News.

Elmo · 14-05-2021 10:01AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2021/0512/1221277-lisdoonvarna-matchmaking/

You'll have to scroll down for the video link. That report was shown on RTE News.

I am always surprised at how well these TV films do, made on shoestring budgets, you'd wonder why RTÉ could not produce a better film.

ShamNNspace · 14-05-2021 10:11AM

I think theres room for rte, possibly in co with another broadcaster to produce a detective series on the lines of Vera, Lewis, Endeavour or Midsomer here possibly outside Dublin somewhere picturesque , would work wonders for tourism if well made imv... I know they had one based in Galway there one time Taylor I think it was called, it was a bit too smart for its own good I thought

Elmo · 14-05-2021 10:16AM

ShamNNspace wrote: »

I think theres room for rte, possibly in co with another broadcaster to produce a detective series on the lines of Vera, Lewis, Endeavour or Midsomer here possibly outside Dublin somewhere picturesque , would work wonders for tourism if well made imv... I know they had one based in Galway there one time Taylor I think it was called, it was a bit too smart for its own good I thought

Taylor was picked up by TV3, one of the producers said that with out Afric (the TG4 teen drama) it would never have been made it was produced by ZDF germany AFAIK.

RTÉ did produce a detective show in the west a decade ago, which was later co-produced by ITV, but as soon as ITV drop their support RTÉ axed the series, the first series being commissioned by RTÉ.

I suppose Smoother would be considered the latest version of this type of programming.

RabbleRouser2k · 14-05-2021 10:18AM

Elmo wrote: »

I am always surprised at how well these TV films do, made on shoestring budgets, you'd wonder why RTÉ could not produce a better film.

They actually don't, the Hallmark movies I mean. They do very little business, they're literally just filler produced on the smallest budgets.
Often re-use sets, wardrobes, and props, among other things.

ShamNNspace wrote: »

I think theres room for rte, possibly in co with another broadcaster to produce a detective series on the lines of Vera, Lewis, Endeavour or Midsomer here possibly outside Dublin somewhere picturesque , would work wonders for tourism if well made imv... I know they had one based in Galway there one time Taylor I think it was called, it was a bit too smart for its own good I thought

Oh Jack Taylor was funny more than anything. One 'episode' involved a school shooter/ bomber.
Doesn't quite work in a rural Irish setting.

Elmo · 14-05-2021 10:20AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

They actually don't, the Hallmark movies I mean. They do very little business, they're literally just filler produced on the smallest budgets.
Often re-use sets, wardrobes, and props, among other things.

Neither do RTÉ :pac:

Being snobby about film I am always surprised that these movies even get sold to other broadcasters/online streamers.

ShamNNspace · 14-05-2021 10:36AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

They actually don't, the Hallmark movies I mean. They do very little business, they're literally just filler produced on the smallest budgets.
Often re-use sets, wardrobes, and props, among other things.

Oh Jack Taylor was funny more than anything. One 'episode' involved a school shooter/ bomber.
Doesn't quite work in a rural Irish setting.

From what I remember, the series was a bit schizophrenic, couldn't make out whether it wanted to be comedic or cutting edge or what, even the wife whose more of an expert than I on these type of shows couldn't make head nor tail of it

RabbleRouser2k · 14-05-2021 10:51AM

ShamNNspace wrote: »

From what I remember, the series was a bit schizophrenic, couldn't make out whether it wanted to be comedic or cutting edge or what, even the wife whose more of an expert than I on these type of shows couldn't make head nor tail of it

It was too 'trying to be American'... which doesn't suit Ireland.
Like, the crimes (such as the 'school bomber' I mentioned) don't have to be hugely serious to make an interesting series out of it.

Dublin Murders tried to be 'Twin Peaks' in IReland... but it wasn't long before it was sniffing it's own flatulence.
It tried to pack 2 seasons of story into a handful of episodes. Got very silly after a while.
Especially the 'deer' scene.

RabbleRouser2k · 17-05-2021 01:05PM

'Staff voted to reject pay cuts'...

Then hire new staff. :rolleyes:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0517/1222130-rte-to-seek-additional-voluntary-redundancies/

political analyst · 17-05-2021 01:16PM

With the Eurovision Song Contest Final taking place this Saturday, RTÉ isn't bothering with the Main Evening News (usually on at some time shortly before or after 9 on a Saturday) on that evening - it was the same in 2019. I remember that a full-length bulletin was broadcast on RTÉ 2 when the Eurovision final coincided with the result of the same-sex marriage referendum. So why doesn't RTÉ do that with the news every year when the Eurovision final is taking place?

Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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