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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #1472
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    This is escalating pretty quickly. Its a race now between the Indian variant and vaccination.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394321477340647425


  • #1473
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is escalating pretty quickly. Its a race now between the Indian variant and vaccination.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1394308159523762179

    Escalating?

    Last Monday they had 2357 cases.

    Take a look at the last 3 weeks of cases there, nothing erratic about the overall cases at all. Around the 2k mark consistently


  • #1474
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,122 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is escalating pretty quickly. Its a race now between the Indian variant and vaccination.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1394308159523762179

    That's a drop in numbers!


  • #1475
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Escalating?

    Last Monday they had 2357 cases.

    Take a look at the last 3 weeks of cases there, nothing erratic about the overall cases at all. Around the 2k mark consistently

    Apologies I put the wrong tweet in that comment.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394321477340647425


  • #1476
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Apologies I put the wrong tweet in that comment.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394321477340647425

    And the majority are in areas where there's a greater number of the population that have recently celebrated Eid.

    Doesn't take much to figure out why these areas are seeing a rise

    There was a poster (on the travel thread I think it was) who was recently in Blackburn and described perfectly what was going on


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  • #1477
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Provisional cases given the limited IT functionality

    https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1394322690379501568?s=19


  • #1478
    Turtwig
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    The key thing is whether the doubling in cases of the Indian variant in the UK are occurring in vaccinated population?

    A doubling of cases as reported is exponential growth and could have serious ramifications. Especially if they relax restrictions too soon. However it would have more serious long term consequences for any reopening if the vaccinated are getting affected.


  • #1479
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,858 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    This cyber attack business is dodgy, could they target the covid app or other important departments that could affect vaccination queues and information and welfare payments.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #1480
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    This cyber attack business is dodgy, could they target the covid app or other important departments that could affect PUP or welfare payments.

    Yeah could do, could target any department really. Covid app though is highly unlikely.

    All departments though as far as I'm aware are having all of their systems throughly checked for any trace of ransomeware


  • #1481
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    And the majority are in areas where there's a greater number of the population that have recently celebrated Eid.

    Doesn't take much to figure out why these areas are seeing a rise

    There was a poster (on the travel thread I think it was) who was recently in Blackburn and described perfectly what was going on

    I would trust medical professionals opinion on what's going on rather than some anecdote from some random poster in Blackburn.

    It does appear that the vaccine works quite well so hopefully this will speed up the rollout in problem area's


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  • #1482
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,528 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    bodhrandude wrote:
    This cyber attack business is dodgy, could they target the covid app or other important departments that could affect vaccination queues and information and welfare payments.
    I removed the covid app from my phone as a precaution.
    I'm supposed to give blood on Thursday, got a phonecall today to say it's unlikely to happen because of the cyber attack


  • #1483
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »
    I would trust medical professionals opinion on what's going on rather than some anecdote from some random poster in Blackburn.

    It does appear that the vaccine works quite well so hopefully this will speed up the rollout in problem area's

    Well to entertain you with more anecdote my own family in greater Manchester have seen it recently amongst certain communities. Large gatherings in houses, refusal to wear masks

    Can't say I'm shocked at a rise in cases in these areas because of it. What's happening on the ground to contribute to these cases arising is just as important


  • #1484
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,107 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1394322690379501568
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1485
    Wolf359f
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Provisional cases given the limited IT functionality

    https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1394322690379501568?s=19

    So from Saturday to Sunday, ICU remained at 42 and 1 additional patient from 109-110.
    Pretty good for a weekend.


  • #1486
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Turtwig wrote: »
    The key thing is whether the doubling in cases of the Indian variant in the UK are occurring in vaccinated population?

    A doubling of cases as reported is exponential growth and could have serious ramifications. Especially if they relax restrictions too soon. However it would have more serious long term consequences for any reopening if the vaccinated are getting affected.

    Before we start referring to exponential growth ,the number of tests carried out needs to be taken into account, they are carrying out mass testing in the hotspots, some context of other numbers needs to be taken into account .
    How many tests were taken for example


  • #1487
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    So from Saturday to Sunday, ICU remained at 42 and 1 additional patient from 109-110.
    Pretty good for a weekend.

    Yeah decent weekend. Hopefully back sub 100 this evening and then whenever we get that update


  • #1488
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    A mate of mine works at a vax center in South Yorkshire and he said to me about 70% of people attending are Indian / Pakistani's and half of those looked over 60 to him. No reason to doubt him and not surprised to be honest.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1489
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭boardise


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    So , the original Covid was 10 times more transmissible than the Flu
    And then the British variant was 50% more transmissible than the original
    And now the Indian variant is 50% more transmissible than the British variant

    Whats next ?

    The super-mega-turbo virus stalks the globe. The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse
    are hitched to the Intergalactic Death Wagon and imminent doom awaits us all.
    Repent ye ,for the end is surely nigh. :eek:


  • #1490
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well to entertain you with more anecdote my own family in greater Manchester have seen it recently amongst certain communities. Large gatherings in houses, refusal to wear masks

    Can't say I'm shocked at a rise in cases in these areas because of it. What's happening on the ground to contribute to these cases arising is just as important

    Yea that just illustrates the opening up is risky at the moment with this variant. Which is why I said it a race now between the vaccination program and this new variant which at the moment is doubling every 4 days.

    Good video here on it by John Campbell. He obviously know far more than any of us on the topic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaefMrez9XA


  • #1491
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    This is escalating pretty quickly. Its a race now between the Indian variant and vaccination.

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394321477340647425

    That's wrong. The UK had 1300 cases on the 8th May. That's a doubling time of around 8 days not 4.


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  • #1492
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Yea that just illustrates the opening up is risky at the moment with this variant. Which is why I said it a race now between the vaccination program and this new variant which at the moment is doubling every 4 days.

    Good video here on it by John Campbell. He obviously know far more than any of us on the topic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaefMrez9XA

    He repeats what's readily available online. Watched one before and said never again. Woeful. Another covid celebrity.

    Anyway I won't get into the nurses qualifications, it's been done to death previously so I'll leave it at that.


  • #1493
    greenfarm
    Site Banned Posts: 21 ✭greenfarm


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Yea that just illustrates the opening up is risky at the moment with this variant. Which is why I said it a race now between the vaccination program and this new variant which at the moment is doubling every 4 days.

    I don't know about the rest of you people but I find it hilarious at this stage

    The race to get jabbed is worse than the homestore & more adds " when it's gone, it's gone " that played non stop for years

    It's all I've heard all day on the radio, get the jab, get the jab.

    Best artificial demand marketing campaign I have ever seen, I had the jabs already and feel like queing up again lol over that variant :pac:


  • #1494
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    He repeats what's readily available online. Watched one before and said never again. Woeful. Another covid celebrity.

    Anyway I won't get into the nurses qualifications, it's been done to death previously so I'll leave it at that.

    That's all any of us do, he comprehends the information and makes it pretty accessible for alot of people. You played down the UK variant I remember.


  • #1495
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    wadacrack wrote: »
    That's all any of us do, he comprehends the information and makes it pretty accessible for alot of people. You played down the UK variant I remember.

    I asked for more evidence before jumping to conclusions, same as the rest of the scientific community were asking for. Bit of a difference, would you prefer I go full on scaremongering before knowing all the information. Evidence changes constantly, therefore opinions will change.

    We've done this dance before so probably best we leave it there instead of derailing the thread because our opinions differ widely and that's fine but I respect your opinion, can't say it's reciprocated I think.

    Some people are going to seriously struggle to adjust to life again if they jump up and down at every variant before waiting for further studies


  • #1496
    greenfarm
    Site Banned Posts: 21 ✭greenfarm


    wadacrack wrote: »
    You played down the UK variant I remember.

    In fairness NPHET and many others did too, Luke O'Neill has some embarrasing tweets when you look back on them on UK variant, not to worry he kept tweeting, citied early study after early study showing the variant not being anything serious and basically said people in UK were acting the eejits and not following lockdown like they should.


  • #1497
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I asked for more evidence before jumping to conclusions. Bit of a difference, would you prefer I go full on scaremongering before knowing all the information.

    We've done this dance before so probably best we leave it there because our opinions differ widely and that's fine but I respect your opinion, can't say it's reciprocated I think.

    Its not scaremongering. I think its fair to say we have evidence that this variant is very transmissible and likely to cause another wave of some sort. The good news is the vaccine's are effective against it.

    Yea that's fair enough.


  • #1498
    Jim_Hodge
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    Any county breakdown today?


  • #1499
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Any county breakdown today?
    No county breakdowns until the hack is over.


  • #1500
    podgeandrodge
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    I was on shop street in Galway a short time ago, lots of people around but all being sensible. Nearly all the shops were open, buskers playing on the street.
    It was a really uplifting experience.

    Good for you Eagle Eye!

    553375.png

    No offence Eagle :pac:


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  • #1501
    marno21
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    Excellent thread on the B.1.617.2 variant by John Burn Murdoch of the FT.

    Well worth a read.

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1394359535754698755


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