Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

Russman wrote: »

Yeah, I think there would be a massive uptake of J&J in the pharmacies tbh if it was offered.

Rumblings this is nearly ready to be given the green light but both the Adenovirus vaccines. Might muddy the waters a bit, apparently guidance was ready to go Friday to pharmacies but NIAC advice was a little tricky so guidance is being reworded to pharmacies.

There isn't a tonne of supply of either at the moment and I believe there were over 800 pharmacies looking to participate. Either way, it'll still be a min of early June by the time they are set up on coldchain

Hurrache wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be the case
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1394240124020535298

In the 40's cohort myself (lower end ). I'll certainly be taking whatever is offered whenever it's my turn......slight preference for J&J, just to have a single dose and done, but will be delighted to get any of them!

Hurrache wrote: »

Can't see how it can hurt AZ any further. I don't think the J&J one has reputational damage though, and the big attraction for that one is it's one shot.

There's already whinging by people on Twitter about it, damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I think it’s still shown to luck. You’re not really being given a choice. If they offer you AZ orJ&J you can decline. I’d say if they offer J&J there well be a higher uptake. AZ means you’ll be waiting 18 weeks to be fully vaxed. AZ is dead now IMO. If I want to travel I’ll easily wait an extra couple of weeks at most for an mRNA one as I’d still get a chance to travel this summer long before I can with AZ…

Pandiculation wrote: »

You’ll get offered an mRNA vaccine if it’s available as default.

If, and only if, it’s not available, you’ll get the option of a viral vector vaccine - J&J or AstraZeneca, which you can turn down and wait for an mRNA option to come into stock.

So you won’t be able to just go … I’d like a J&J please.

Seems like you wouldn't find out then until you go to the vaccination centre on the date... It wouldn't have any affect on how soon you get an appointment or where.
(Based on the RTE article "if an mRNA vaccine is not available at the time of vaccination")

BigMo1 wrote: »

Quick Q, has the ransomware attack stopped the HSE scheduling new vaccine appointments or are the texts still going to people in their 50s?

Texts are still going out.
My friend and her partner were sent appointments yesterday for the Helix later this week.

Hurrache wrote: »

Doesn't seem to be the case
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1394240124020535298

Does mean we won't know until we get to the MVC what we are getting? Or will we still know in advance on the portal/text like the older groups?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

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You can keep repeating that but in terms of travel you need both AZ doses. If travel is not an issue then fine, but the lower age group you go, the more people will want to travel.

Also that 4 weeks isn’t universal. So it may be grand here, but not elsewhere. This was our famed politicians trying to take anything positive out of AZ to get people to take it.

ddarcy wrote: »

I think it’s still shown to luck. You’re not really being given a choice. If they offer you AZ orJ&J you can decline. I’d say if they offer J&J there well be a higher uptake. AZ means you’ll be waiting 18 weeks to be fully vaxed. AZ is dead now IMO. If I want to travel I’ll easily wait an extra couple of weeks at most for an mRNA one as I’d still get a chance to travel this summer long before I can with AZ…

But will it only be a couple of weeks to wait if you opt for an MRNA one?

Pandiculation wrote: »

You’ll get offered an mRNA vaccine if it’s available as default.

If, and only if, it’s not available, you’ll get the option of a viral vector vaccine - J&J or AstraZeneca, which you can turn down and wait for an mRNA option to come into stock.

So you won’t be able to just go … I’d like a J&J please.

This is my understanding too.

Cole wrote: »

But will it only be a couple of weeks to wait if you opt for an MRNA one?

It's going to push the overall rollout out massively IMO. We are now down to 2 vaccines for the remaining population.

Will be interesting how they manage the logistics on this.
Offer Pfizer or Moderna by default, fine. But then if we are short of those 2, offer J&J or AZ.

I wonder will it be more likely then given the timing that a 49 year old will get Pfizer/Moderna will no delays and that the delays may start to appear as we go down the Ages ?

revelman wrote: »

Sorry, I meant to say we should be expecting only 30,000. The Germans are expecting 540,000

The German figures are divided into those going to MVCs and those going to GPs.

https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/fileadmin/Dateien/3_Downloads/C/Coronavirus/Impfstoff/Lieferprognose_Praxen-Betriebsaerzte_2._Quartal.pdf

Here is GP delivery schedule. No J&J earmarked for MVCs since start of month.

All to do with that cock up at Emergent Biosolutions who are producing the vaccines for J&J, when they ruined the 15 million doses and the FDA told them to stop production until further notice.

The management of Emergent are testifying before the House of Representatives's Oversight Committee on Wednesday.

revelman wrote: »

Here is Colm Henry’s reference to one of the conditions being that AZ and J&J need to be given at a “quicker pace”

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40291241.html

Again, I’m not really sure what this means given that we won’t be expecting our big J&J delivery until end of June.

Odd turn of phrase.

AZ is primarily going to be 2nd doses now, and that's purely down to delivery schedule. The first 12 week and 16 week dose 2 will be due quite soon.

J&J fair enough that could be dished out pretty quick, 1 and done, but not sure what that "quicker pace" comment can practically turn into