FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

16-05-2021 09:35AM

Badly fukt wrote: »

The system where they just snail mail appointments to patients without ever knowing they get them or knowing they've opened them!

44,000 of them? Ya right. Always someone else’s fault.

16-05-2021 09:39AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

44,000 of them? Ya right. Always someone else’s fault.

So persist with an antiquated one way traffic communication and lay the blame at everyone for being ignorant and stupid!

The problem has been identified, do you fix it or persist?

RandomViewer · 16-05-2021 11:51AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The system where a patient goes to their doctor who refers them to a hospital and they don’t bother turning up for the appointment or have the courtesy to inform the hospital, thereby stopping another patient receiving treatment?

Lots of duplication of appointments, people's names down on different lists, I had an appointment for January and was phoned by 3 different people to say it was cancelled because of Covid,

Billcarson · 16-05-2021 12:04PM

What's the story with 225 million of taxpayers money being used to invest in cuckoo funds. Disgrace.

RandomViewer · 16-05-2021 12:06PM

Billcarson wrote: »

What's the story with 225 million of taxpayers money being used to invest in cuckoo funds. Disgrace.

Chambers avoided the question on The week in politics

Fann Linn · 16-05-2021 12:09PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Chambers avoided the question on The week in politics

Surprised to hear that. She's normally first outta the traps with the big mouth on her.

RandomViewer · 16-05-2021 12:18PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Surprised to hear that. She's normally first outta the traps with the big mouth on her.

Jack not Lisa

Fann Linn · 16-05-2021 12:21PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Jack not Lisa

Lol.

Calhoun · 17-05-2021 09:48PM

Interesting day for them tomorrow, housing minister proposing new laws to limit investment funds to purchase of 50% of housing units but only going forward and not on existing stock in planning permission.

I wonder if its kite flying or if they will try put it in place. As soon as we are through with covid the ghosts of christmas past are going to come haunt them.

Shebean · 18-05-2021 07:24PM

10% stamp duty if you buy more than ten homes in any one development.
To quote Mr. Rabbitte, "U2 must be ****tin' themselves".

Fann Linn · 18-05-2021 07:40PM

Shebean wrote: »

10% stamp duty if you buy more than ten homes in any one development.
To quote Mr. Rabbitte, "U2 must be ****tin' themselves".

And as was pointed out the vultures would be buying at a slight discount anyway which would negate this effect. Plus 2.5 to 5 years for other effects to kick in at a minimum.
A damp squib of a reaction to the housing crisis.

Wanderer78 · 18-05-2021 07:41PM

Fann Linn wrote:

And as was pointed out the vultures would be buying at a slight discount anyway which would negate this effect. Plus 2.5 to 5 years for other effects to kick in at a minimum. A damp squib of a reaction to the housing crisis.

Ffg are goosed, not a chance they'll survive the next ge

Fann Linn · 18-05-2021 07:47PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Ffg are goosed, not a chance they'll survive the next ge

Nothing there for young people to be reassured by. Why would anyone in rental accommodation vote for them as they are now visibly being left behind by this govt.

titan18 · 18-05-2021 07:56PM

Ya, I won't be voting for FG here again unless they change approaches here. I'd be a FG voter too in the last elections but feck them at this stage

Fann Linn · 18-05-2021 08:15PM

Coalition of Chaos in action again.

Meanwhile the Dáil has just PASSED a Sinn Fein motion seeking that affordable housing should be delivered for €230k in Dublin (not the €450k Govt aspires for), and cost rental €700-€900… because it seems the Govt forgot to vote for its own countermotion instead

CDarby · 18-05-2021 08:17PM

titan18 wrote: »

Ya, I won't be voting for FG here again unless they change approaches here. I'd be a FG voter too in the last elections but feck them at this stage

Likewise here with FF, a definitive ex voter here, and I stuck with them even through the disaster of the last crash, but there's no going back, and no chance of reprieve for them after allowing themselves to partner with FG, just so MM could be come Taoiseach.

I think both are finished for as soon as the next election concludes.

Floppybits · 18-05-2021 08:17PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Coalition of Chaos in action again.

Meanwhile the Dáil has just PASSED a Sinn Fein motion seeking that affordable housing should be delivered for €230k in Dublin (not the €450k Govt aspires for), and cost rental €700-€900… because it seems the Govt forgot to vote for its own countermotion instead

I was reading this, was this a F**k up by the government in this getting through?

blanch152 · 18-05-2021 08:19PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Coalition of Chaos in action again.

Meanwhile the Dáil has just PASSED a Sinn Fein motion seeking that affordable housing should be delivered for €230k in Dublin (not the €450k Govt aspires for), and cost rental €700-€900… because it seems the Govt forgot to vote for its own countermotion instead

Does it mean anything in reality, or is it just more showboating from an ineffective opposition?

Floppybits · 18-05-2021 08:20PM

CDarby wrote: »

Likewise here with FF, a definitive ex voter here, and I stuck with them even through the disaster of the last crash, but there's no going back, and no chance of reprieve for them after allowing themselves to partner with FG, just so MM could be come Taoiseach.

I think both are finished for as soon as the next election concludes.

I don't think both are finished, one of the 2 will be finished but not both of them. Most folks are still wary of voting for SF so there will be votes there for one of either FG or FF and I would say going on what you see in each party FG probably have the better TD's. FF is as they say old, male and stale and there is nothing nor no one in the party that is appealing to voters.

CDarby · 18-05-2021 08:25PM

Floppybits wrote: »

I don't think both are finished, one of the 2 will be finished but not both of them. Most folks are still wary of voting for SF so there will be votes there for one of either FG or FF and I would say going on what you see in each party FG probably have the better TD's. FF is as they say old, male and stale and there is nothing nor no one in the party that is appealing to voters.

Yeah, I was referring to being out of power, we could be about to experience the first Irish government without one of the two of them being part of it after the next election was how i should have worded it.

Jinglejangle69 · 18-05-2021 08:35PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Coalition of Chaos in action again.

Meanwhile the Dáil has just PASSED a Sinn Fein motion seeking that affordable housing should be delivered for €230k in Dublin (not the €450k Govt aspires for), and cost rental €700-€900… because it seems the Govt forgot to vote for its own countermotion instead

Heard MM telling Mary Lou in the Dáil that SF have objected to 16 housing developments out of 21 in Dublin.

Strange one I thought but they seem to have all the answers and people believe them so let's see what they come up with.

Jinglejangle69 · 18-05-2021 08:37PM

CDarby wrote: »

Yeah, I was referring to being out of power, we could be about to experience the first Irish government without one of the two of them being part of it after the next election was how i should have worded it.

Huh?????

FG/Labour only 10 years ago????

Fann Linn · 18-05-2021 08:38PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Heard MM telling Mary Lou in the Dáil that SF have objected to 16 housing developments out of 21 in Dublin.

Strange one I thought but they seem to have all the answers and people believe them so let's see what they come up with.

You wouldn't want to mind what he says. Probably doesn't know what day it is considering only a week ago he suddenly realised there was a housing crisis.

Floppybits · 18-05-2021 08:40PM

CDarby wrote: »

Yeah, I was referring to being out of power, we could be about to experience the first Irish government without one of the two of them being part of it after the next election was how i should have worded it.

The problem I see is the lack of trust in SF and they haven't really done anything in opposition to win over the voters. I think voters will punish FF and reduce them to something like the Labour party. As for FG they have a chance to save themselves but that will also depend on who their leader is going into the next election. There main problem is Varadkar. Where as Martin comes across as weak, Varadkar just comes across as evil who takes pleasure is laying into those that don't have much.

Floppybits · 18-05-2021 08:44PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

You wouldn't want to mind what he says. Probably doesn't know what day it is considering only a week ago he suddenly realised there was a housing crisis.

Sure didn't he tell us that there was no bank bailout.

Fann Linn · 18-05-2021 08:46PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Sure didn't he tell us that there was no bank bailout.

That's right, plus the Ballymurphy situation. He really has his hands on the helm.

votecounts · 18-05-2021 08:53PM

Fianna Fail should have a word with themselves, Mary Fitzpatrick on Primetime says Cuckoo Funds cannot buy in bulk tomorrow regardless of planning permission while Darragh O'Brien says differently
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394727568557936640

It would have been for first time buyers had this done something, but I fear it won't change anything

Fann Linn · 18-05-2021 08:55PM

votecounts wrote: »

Fianna Fail should have a word with themselves, Mary Fitzpatrick on Primetime says Cuckoo Funds cannot buy in bulk tomorrow regardless of planning permission while Darragh O'Brien says differently
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1394727568557936640

It would have been for first time buyers had this done something, but I fear it won't change anything

Plus the 10% stamp duty is fully tax deductible according to some reports so no change at all.

Floppybits · 18-05-2021 08:59PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Plus the 10% stamp duty is fully tax deductible according to some reports so no change at all.

All it is is tinkering around at the edges to try quell the anger for a bit. They have no interest in stopping Vulture funds from buying up homes. If they did they would have acted sooner. There is also the possibility that FF do want to make the necessary changes but FG have them by the short and curly's and are telling them that if they make the changes they will make things very hard for them.

CDarby · 18-05-2021 09:00PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Huh?????

FG/Labour only 10 years ago????

FG are "one of the two of them" I'm referring to, in the post you quoted.

FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

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