Cocaine

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:28AM

Augeo wrote: »

Right back at you kid.

Off you go now ang google some of your usual inane sources and copy and paste someone else's scutter here.

What it means in my context is that as there'd be a blackmarket (undoubtedly, cigarette market is an examply) all of the current systems failings would still be there.

so, if we had much deeper knowledge of our social dysfunctions, we d have the exact same problems?

pgj2015 · 14-05-2021 09:29AM

id nearly do heroin before coke. to me coke offers nothing, its a dirty drug, god knows what you are hoovering up your nose. A lot of people are just doing it because they think its cool. I feel sorry for them. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and just stop taking it. The people in their 20's taking it now wont live to see their 60's if they keep at it.

14-05-2021 09:29AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...ah i ll stick to my own brain thanks

lol

All of your posts are copy and paste left, woke nonsense ............. zero originality. If your posting on boards was a college assignment you'd be done for plagiarism, in addition to wandering off topic and not answering questions directly.

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:30AM

pgj2015 wrote: »

id nearly do heroin before coke. to me coke offers nothing, its a dirty drug, god knows what you are hoovering up your nose. A lot of people are just doing it because they think its cool. I feel sorry for them. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and just stop taking it. The people in their 20's taking it now wont live to see their 60's they keep at it.

....so addiction is easy to stop, it just requires 'personal responsibility'?

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:31AM

Augeo wrote: »

lol

All of your posts are copy and paste left, woke nonsense ............. zero originality. If your posting on boards was a college assignment you'd be done for plagiarism, in addition to wandering off topic and not answering questions directly.

no, its generally coming from my own brain, and whats 'woke nonsense'?

14-05-2021 09:31AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

so, if we had much deeper knowledge of our social dysfunctions, we d have the exact same problems?

How does legalising cocaine offer a deeper knowledge of our social dysfunctions.

14-05-2021 09:32AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

no, its generally coming from my own brain, and whats 'woke nonsense'?

No, it most definitely is not.
And, you don't even understand the banking and financial sh1te you spiel on about. You also don't understand much about legalising cocaine either " if we had much deeper knowledge of our social dysfunctions, we d have the exact same problems?"

Lol, at least you're not confused at the left reference !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:34AM

Augeo wrote: »

How does legalising cocaine offer a deeper knowledge of our social dysfunctions.

we maybe able to create a safer product for consumption, evident with alcohol etc, we may find out how much truly is in consumption, and how much we need to invest in our health system, in order to deal with it............

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:35AM

Augeo wrote: »

No, it most definitely is not.
And, you don't even understand the banking and financial sh1te you spiel on about. You also don't understand much about legalising cocaine either " if we had much deeper knowledge of our social dysfunctions, we d have the exact same problems?"

Lol, at least you're not confused at the left reference !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...what are you talking about now?

Mimon · 14-05-2021 09:35AM

Mecrab wrote: »

How is this drug so popular.. it's absolutely MANK. Especially the Irish cocaine that's so stamped down with adulterants. Feel on top of the world for 5 minutes then the dopamine levels plummet and you feel like you just murdered 10 babies until you have another sniff but each one brings less and less euphoria and before you know it it's 6am the birds are chirping and you're questioning just what the **** are you doing in life to be sitting there skagged ta fook wishing you'd said "not tonight mate"

Was at a party last summer and I stuck to MDMA and was still flying, on a lovely level with a couple of others at 9am. Everyone that took Coke also were mashed and in bed by 4am. Don't see the point at all.

14-05-2021 09:36AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...what are you talking about now?

You are struggling because I made a few points in one post and they don't lend themselves to rebuttal from any of your usual sources.

Apologies :pac:

Read it a few times, break it down, think about it

14-05-2021 09:40AM

Augeo wrote: »

Legalising cocaine is a nutty idea, there'd still be a huge blackmarket cocaine market, just like the tax free & fake cigarette options.

Would it be "huge"?

I used to have that opinion, and made the argument that because the legal stuff would be regulated, a black market would rise up for the more potent stuff, which cocaine users need as tolerance increases.

Now I think that is a bad argument. The black market will arise, but a small black market is better than a marketplace that is entirely controlled by criminal gangs, with minor, amateur inroads being made by Gardaí.

The aim isn't to eradicate the illicit trade in cocaine altogether. That isn't possible. The main aim must be to reduce criminal activity, not eradicate.

Going back to the drug itself, cocaine is strange. I think some of us are somehow immune to it. Any time I tried it, it did absolutely nothing, and I know it was cocaine instead of flour because it numbed my gums. Some people say it's because the thing that comes to Ireland has been badly diluted, or whatever the lingo is, "cut".

Am not remotely interested in taking blame for a murder, and am very suspicious of anyone who seems to enjoy apportionjng blame in that very exaggerated way "blood on their hands" etc. all pontifical. Even for people who regularly use cocaine, they're only guilty of wasting their money. Murder isn't inevitable, the responsibility lies with the culprit alone.

I assume the cocaine economy has completely collapsed. I'm not sure why the drug was ever popular, but its usage during a Lockdown would be even harder to comprehend.

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:41AM

Augeo wrote: »

You are struggling because I made a few points in one post and they don't lend themselves to rebuttal from any of your usual sources.

Apologies :pac:

Read it a few times, break it down, think about it

ah you re grand thanks, ive life to be doing

14-05-2021 09:45AM

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Would it be "huge"?........

Yes, look at the cigarette trade........

https://ec.europa.eu/anti-fraud/public-perception-illicit-tobacco-trade_en

Cigarette smuggling and other forms of illicit trade in tobacco products cause an estimated EUR 10 billion loss to the EU and national budgets every year.

https://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/19844/1/Illicit-Trade-in-Ireland-report.pdf

The illicit trade in tobacco creates the greatest cost in terms of annual losses of revenue to the Exchequer, with estimates ranging from €250 million by the Revenue Commissioners to €569 million by the industry.

And that's cigarettes, available in every grocery shop and service station in the country, no shortage of venders.

14-05-2021 09:46AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

ah you re grand thanks, ive life to be doing

Reading inane sh1t on the net and splattering it on here.

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:47AM

Augeo wrote: »

Reading inane sh1t on the net and splattering it on here.

...and where do you get your info?

14-05-2021 09:48AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...and where do you get your info?

Life experience and personal views.

Wanderer78 · 14-05-2021 09:49AM

Augeo wrote: »

Life experience and personal views.

...so you dont gain information from sources from the internet, or other sources?

14-05-2021 09:53AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...so you dont gain information from sources from the internet, or other sources?

I don't get info from inane, lefty, woke sources.
I read books and professional articles across various industries, pharma & financial.

I thought you'd "life to do" this morning?

Collecting the dole?

snotboogie · 14-05-2021 09:54AM

Augeo wrote: »

Yes, look at the cigarette trade........

https://ec.europa.eu/anti-fraud/public-perception-illicit-tobacco-trade_en

Cigarette smuggling and other forms of illicit trade in tobacco products cause an estimated EUR 10 billion loss to the EU and national budgets every year.

https://www.drugsandalcohol.ie/19844/1/Illicit-Trade-in-Ireland-report.pdf

The illicit trade in tobacco creates the greatest cost in terms of annual losses of revenue to the Exchequer, with estimates ranging from €250 million by the Revenue Commissioners to €569 million by the industry.

And that's cigarettes, available in every grocery shop and service station in the country, no shortage of venders.

When is the last time you heard of an illegal cigarette dealer getting shot?

14-05-2021 09:58AM

snotboogie wrote: »

When is the last time you heard of an illegal cigarette dealer getting shot?

And you reckon illicit cocaine dealers wouldn't be if cocaine was legalised?
lol

Ash.J.Williams · 14-05-2021 10:01AM

snotboogie wrote: »

When is the last time you heard of an illegal cigarette dealer getting shot?

I haven’t been looking but off the top of my head I’d say 4 years ago

Ash.J.Williams · 14-05-2021 10:01AM

It’s a hellova drug

snotboogie · 14-05-2021 10:09AM

Augeo wrote: »

And you reckon illicit cocaine dealers wouldn't be if cocaine was legalised?
lol

Cigarettes have a black market because they are taxed at 80%. They have long been an easy win for government to raise funds with little push back. Cocaine would in theory be legalised for public health and to stop violence. It wouldn't be taxed at such ridiculous rates and would be able to compete on price with the black market. I don't think the cigarette trade is comparable to the legalisation of other drugs unless you also bring in the unbelievable tax rates, which obviously wouldn't happen.

magic_murph · 14-05-2021 10:28AM

Augeo wrote: »

And you reckon illicit cocaine dealers wouldn't be if cocaine was legalised?
lol

All your recent posts sound like you are on a coke come down.
Just chill dude

B.A._Baracus · 14-05-2021 10:56AM

Augeo wrote: »

I don't get info from inane, lefty, woke sources.
I read books and professional articles across various industries, pharma & financial.

I thought you'd "life to do" this morning?

Collecting the dole?

You do in your bollocks :pac:

14-05-2021 10:59AM

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Going back to the drug itself, cocaine is strange. I think some of us are somehow immune to it. Any time I tried it, it did absolutely nothing, and I know it was cocaine instead of flour because it numbed my gums.

Look out guys, we've got a drug expert here!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 14-05-2021 11:49AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Look out guys, we've got a drug expert here!

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You do in your bollocks :pac:

magic_murph wrote: »

All your recent posts sound like you are on a coke come down.
Just chill dude

I see the standard of debate is just as strong as it was the last tiem I visited this thread...

14-05-2021 11:52AM

A really interesting audit I would love to do but would probably collapse the HSE is on one random Monday morning, take a urine sample of every SHO/reg working in a HSE hospital. The results would be illuminating

14-05-2021 11:54AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I see the standard of debate is just as strong as it was the last tiem I visited this thread...

Good to see you've got something new and productive to add to it.

Cocaine

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