Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

wotzgoingon · 10-05-2021 09:04PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I would have expected that anyone with any respiratory condition whatsoever would have been referred fairly promptly. It is a respiratory disease after all.

I got my first vaccine 11 days ago and there is nothing wrong with me. My mother got hers today(over 60's) and my father who has respiratory issues did not get his yet and he is over 60 too.

Turtwig · 10-05-2021 09:05PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Cohort 7 is due to start early May, it's still early May, so it hasn't exactly been forgotten about... Yet.
However, as ACE pointed out, people who have certain conditions (without being treated by an outpatient clinic) and whose GP are not going to be doing cohort 7, seem to be left in limbo.

Yeah. The question will be how many of those certain conditions will be left in Limbo. I guess, what I'm getting at here badly. Is this issue affecting 1% of Cohort 7 or 80% of them ?

I'll fully admit asthmatics globally have been a raw deal. The guidance documents are vague as fck. Imo the GP should just prioritise all asthmatics rather than try to pin it out to the technical criteria as that's just time consuming and messy.

odyssey06 wrote: »

200 out of 1200 GP practices are not participating at all in cohort 7 vaccination.

Ray Walley was asked about this at the NPHET briefing and said the GPs should inform the patients their practice won't facilitate them then the patient can request another GP to do it. He'd vaccinated some of these patients for other cohorts. They don't have to leave their GP's surgery as patients. He kind of dodged the question a bit. His answer seemed to imply the patients had to chase up on this themselves. Which imo is a bit of a mess of phone calls everywhere.
All the while the HSE line is not to contact anyone. The patient will be contacted. Onus is on GPs to inform patients first.

Communication could definitely be clearer here.

Necro · 10-05-2021 09:39PM

Absolutely flying through appointments in Sligo, one of my parents 58 year old neighbours got their first jab in the MVC today.

blobert · 10-05-2021 09:46PM

Does anyone know at what point you find out what vaccine you're getting if you're attending MVC?

Are you told in advance by text or only on the day when you register in person?

Thanks

CrowdedHouse · 10-05-2021 09:47PM

It will be in the text.

iamwhoiam · 10-05-2021 09:48PM

blobert wrote: »

Does anyone know at what point you find out what vaccine you're getting if you're attending MVC?

Are you told in advance by text or only on the day when you register in person?

Thanks

My text said date , time , venue and vaccine AZ

secman · 10-05-2021 09:55PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

My text said date , time , venue and vaccine AZ

This

Vaccinated30 · 10-05-2021 10:07PM

Sorry if already discussed but a student nurse gave 1 woman 6 doses in one go. Not in Ireland. Question, when is this woman considered fully vaxxed

wotzgoingon · 10-05-2021 10:10PM

Vaccinated30 wrote: »

Sorry if already discussed but a student nurse gave 1 woman 6 doses in one go. Not in Ireland. Question, when is this woman considered fully vaxxed

She will still need a second dose at some stage.

TheDoctor · 10-05-2021 10:11PM

Vaccinated30 wrote: »

Sorry if already discussed but a student nurse gave 1 woman 6 doses in one go. Not in Ireland. Question, when is this woman considered fully vaxxed

She now has 30G

ShineOn7 · 10-05-2021 10:19PM

Long story short: Sinopharm is a bit shíte

A Chinese vaccine where - last I checked - they wouldn't release full data to be verified

What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/confidence-in-chinese-coronavirus-vaccine-falls-as-uae-covid-cases-remain-high-tj9fwz60z

Confidence in Chinese coronavirus vaccine falls as UAE Covid cases remain high

More than half of all adults in the UAE have had two jabs

The vaccination programme in the United Arab Emirates has failed to quash its coronavirus outbreak, raising fears about the efficacy of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine it is mostly using.

The UAE has vied with Israel for having the highest proportion of the population vaccinated. More than half of all adults have had two jabs.

However, cases remain higher than they were last year.

While Dubai has come under fire for its rapid reopening — few restrictions remain, other than venue capacity limits and mandatory masks — experts believe the UAE’s widespread use of the Sinopharm vaccine could also be to blame.

Apogee · 10-05-2021 10:24PM

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1391855922931175424

penelope2012 · 10-05-2021 10:25PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

The last few Thursday and Friday evenings the local Dr's have being vaccinating very random people from the area.
Everyone is delighted to get the call.

I am planning to ring GP tomorrow I applied for vaccine at weekend got text at 3 today for tomorrow at 2 in county centre which is 30 miles away. I can’t go as I am doing oral exams with LC students tomorrow. I have to have these done by Wednesday so no way out. Met someone this evening who said GP is still vaccinating so I will try I am 56 by the way.

Eod100 · 10-05-2021 10:26PM

Good news https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1391865581721300992?s=19

CrowdedHouse · 10-05-2021 10:29PM

penelope2012 wrote: »

I am planning to ring GP tomorrow I applied for vaccine at weekend got text at 3 today for tomorrow at 2 in county centre which is 30 miles away. I can’t go as I am doing oral exams with LC students tomorrow. I have to have these done by Wednesday so no way out. Met someone this evening who said GP is still vaccinating so I will try I am 56 by the way.

Reply to the text with New and you'll get a new appointment, works twice

podgeandrodge · 10-05-2021 10:36PM

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Reply to the text with New and you'll get a new appointment, works twice

Can it change the vaccine, or just give a new time?

deeperlearning · 10-05-2021 10:59PM

The criteria for cohort 7 is severe asthma which require the continuous or repeated use of systemic corticosteroids.

Generally speaking, inhalers are not systemic corticosteroids. Steroid tablets such as deltacortril are systemic steroids.

irishlad. · 10-05-2021 11:00PM

What cohort will the 59-50 age group go under?

franciscanpunk · 10-05-2021 11:05PM

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Ok rang a general HSE Covid vaccine number: 01 240 8746 this morning after getting it via the Community HSE number.

Was told some GPs are doing Cohort 7 some aren't. Your options are:
1. Try other GPs in your area
2. Ring your consultant
3. Wait for the government to contact you for your age based vaccination.

(Just including info here for others in similar situations).

Yeah after a GP telling someone i know the were in cohort 7 and vaccine would be GP prescribed now found out today that this GP has decided they are just doing over 70s, didnt communicate this anywhere prob didnt want any bad press. so after hours of phonecalls they are now being told to use the portal

Van.Bosch · 10-05-2021 11:11PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Is it worth ringing HSE live or am I wasting my time? It appears my GP isn't referring asthmatics, while I know 3 people who are on the exact same meds as me who have been referred

Were they referred by their GP? Prob a long shot but could you swap and become a patient of that GP? Unlikely they would take new patients especially as it is just to get a vaccine but your lifelong custom might be a clincher. I’d give it a go

penelope2012 · 10-05-2021 11:31PM

I did but not sure how long it takes so that is why I am going to try GP.

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Reply to the text with New and you'll get a new appointment, works twice

franciscanpunk · 10-05-2021 11:42PM

is there a list anywhere of the 200 of 1200 practices not doing cohort 7 or a list of what GP's have decided to do what. Would make things a bit easier and also its unfair some practices have decided to opt in for some cohorts while others havent while its generally assumed all GP's are doing everything.

I think most people would agree this has gone surprisingly well to date apart from the cohort 4\7 stuff but it seems its individual GP's letting the side down here and not HSE.

ginoginelli · 10-05-2021 11:45PM

deeperlearning wrote: »

The criteria for cohort 7 is severe asthma which require the continuous or repeated use of systemic corticosteroids.

Generally speaking, inhalers are not systemic corticosteroids. Steroid tablets such as deltacortril are systemic steroids.

The problem is some gps are taking the piss and vaxxing some people in their 30s on mild inhalers like becotide, while other genuine cases, on repeated deltacortils etc, are getting the run around.

Strazdas · 10-05-2021 11:52PM

irishlad. wrote: »

What cohort will the 59-50 age group go under?

None - they are part of the general population due to be vaccinated and are considered the healthy ones.

robinbird · 10-05-2021 11:57PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Did they even tell you which GP are doing it ?
They are throwing the towel in now for cohort 7 . Help yourself cos we aint doing it for you .Disgraceful

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Oh yeah I emailed the Asthma Society. Didn't even get a reply.
I think the least they could have done is made a representation to the government regarding the stress now a lot of cohort 7 and their families are happening. The media is full "Oh isn't it great everything is opening up", Maybe the over 70's won't be going to hospital but Cohort 7 are still in danger.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Is it worth ringing HSE live or am I wasting my time? It appears my GP isn't referring asthmatics, while I know 3 people who are on the exact same meds as me who have been referred

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've spoken to him directly and he said they're only referring asthmatics who've been hospitalised. Should've rephrased and said he's not not sending asthmatics, just being incredibly picky.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They absolutely did not give a solution
Find another GP ? Are they actually kidding ? Its like finding a needle in a haystack
Wait for the clinic ? What clinic ? Many Cohort 7 dont attend clinics
Wait for your turn online ? What if he is 20 years old ?

No they gave no workable solution at all they dont give a toss about cohort 7 as long as the vaccination numbers look good

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Exactly , no workable solution was offered
( ps . I am a she !!! )

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I would have expected that anyone with any respiratory condition whatsoever would have been referred fairly promptly. It is a respiratory disease after all.

Wolf359f wrote: »

people who have certain conditions (without being treated by an outpatient clinic) and whose GP are not going to be doing cohort 7, seem to be left in limbo.

lucernarian wrote: »

You're going to be told "nothing to see here" given the attitude of some folks here.

ShineOn7 wrote: »

They need to fix this, a grand total of 8 people were vaccinated in Cohort 7 today

Meanwhile you can feel an atmosphere of "everything is back to normal so let's drop our guard" coming over the country

348,000 high risk people are supposed to do what in the middle of this?

Cocoon indefinitely until the shambles is sorted out?

Turtwig wrote: »

This is more than reasonable.
Intuitively you would assume that anyone with Asthma would be vulnerable to COVID. They are for influenza. However COVID is different.,, if you're not on oral steroids or biologics you're not in cohort 4 or cohort 7 unless there's another reason for the clinician to consider.

Having asthma alone doesn't prioritise the delay of a vaccine to an older age group. The older age demographic is considered the higher risk.

deeperlearning wrote: »

The criteria for cohort 7 is severe asthma which require the continuous or repeated use of systemic corticosteroids.

Generally speaking, inhalers are not systemic corticosteroids.

All the worked up mild asthmatics need to stop with the righteous indignation.
Using an inhaler you bought in a shop does not entitle you to jump the queue.
You need to be getting specific medication to qualify for Cohort 7. Age is a greater risk factor so you will just have to wait your turn in this age based rollout.
Or else find a GP that will add you to the 250,000 that have already got a Cohort 4 referral, many for the asthma.

JPA · 10-05-2021 11:57PM

blobert wrote: »

Does anyone know at what point you find out what vaccine you're getting if you're attending MVC?

Are you told in advance by text or only on the day when you register in person?

Thanks

What age are you? Will narrow it down.

Wolf359f · 11-05-2021 12:01AM

robinbird wrote: »

All the worked up mild asthmatics need to stop with the righteous indignation.
Using an inhaler you bought in a shop does not entitle you to jump the queue.
You need to be getting specific medication to qualify for Cohort 7. Age is a greater risk factor so you will just have to wait your turn in this age based rollout.
Or else find a GP that will add you to the 250,000 that have already got a Cohort 4 referral, many for the asthma.

I do not have asthma, so I wouldn't comment on it as I wouldn't know how being on certain medication would indicate how severe their asthma.
Look at the cohort 7 figures, look at the illnesses listed there, there's **** all done. These are people at high risk and healthy 50 year olds are being done before them.

Wolf359f · 11-05-2021 12:04AM

Strazdas wrote: »

None - they are part of the general population due to be vaccinated and are considered the healthy ones.

The HSE vaccine dashboard still has 14 cohorts listed, so it would be nice if they kept them broken down into different age groups for transparency at least.

I also noticed nearly all of the ~140 J&J jabs were assigned to cohort 1.

Strazdas · 11-05-2021 12:06AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

The HSE vaccine dashboard still has 14 cohorts listed, so it would be nice if they kept them broken down into different age groups for transparency at least.

I also noticed nearly all of the ~140 J&J jabs were assigned to cohort 1.

The version I'm looking at lists only seven and seems to imply that the rest of the population doesn't belong to any cohort.

Wolf359f · 11-05-2021 12:09AM

Strazdas wrote: »

The version I'm looking at lists only seven and seems to imply that the rest of the population doesn't belong to any cohort.

I mean the PDF that's downloaded from the HSE site.
That's from their internal dashboard I guess.

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