Dublin Marathon 2021

rovers_runner · 19-04-2021 12:15PM

wpd wrote: »

maybe no race series just marathon will be announcement???

Pity but looks a certainty, could have been possible to limit it to entries from 2020 carried over and push first event back to Aug but it's easier say that when you don't have to submit thousands of orders for water/chips/bibs/supplies.

The Davestator · 20-04-2021 12:13PM

I'd say its a certainty that the race series will be virtual but hopefully they hold their nerve until the last moment regarding the marathon.

Van.Bosch · 21-04-2021 07:40PM

The Davestator wrote: »

I'd say its a certainty that the race series will be virtual but hopefully they hold their nerve until the last moment regarding the marathon.

I think they could do it with good comms - “we are planning for the marathon but we may need to cancel at short notice, if you are okay with this then take no action. If you do not want to be signed up for a marathon we can’t guarantee, apply for a refund/deferral by X”

EC1000 · 22-04-2021 01:53PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

I think they could do it with good comms - “we are planning for the marathon but we may need to cancel at short notice, if you are okay with this then take no action. If you do not want to be signed up for a marathon we can’t guarantee, apply for a refund/deferral by X”

I've somewhat forgotten where we are with the marathon (I have my place held over from last year as far as I know) but is it not sold out already anyway and therefore they don't need to do anynthing for now either way?

aquinn · 22-04-2021 03:51PM

EC1000 wrote: »

I've somewhat forgotten where we are with the marathon (I have my place held over from last year as far as I know) but is it not sold out already anyway and therefore they don't need to do anynthing for now either way?

If you had an entry for 2020 and didn't request a refund you should still have it.

beertons · 22-04-2021 04:47PM

I had a place for last year, not doing it this year. Will request a refund when I'm told they're available. There will be spots available then.

OOnegative · 22-04-2021 05:57PM

beertons wrote: »

I had a place for last year, not doing it this year. Will request a refund when I'm told they're available. There will be spots available then.

Good to see you still at it.

beertons · 22-04-2021 07:49PM

OOnegative wrote: »

Good to see you still at it.

I had a dream of bettering my dnf, in my 40th year. I was running, with the kids on the bikes.

They got too fast, I had to get a bike too.

rovers_runner · 05-05-2021 12:12PM

No word on entries from the 2020 race series.
Will they be refunded or carried over to 2022?

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FinnC · 05-05-2021 12:26PM

Any mention of those who paid for last years race series that never happened does it carry over for another year?

rovers_runner · 05-05-2021 12:31PM

FinnC wrote: »

Any mention of those who paid for last years race series that never happened does it carry over for another year?

https://twitter.com/dublinmarathon/status/1389905279106568193?s=20

rovers_runner · 05-05-2021 12:32PM

F*ck that for a game of soldiers anyway, bad sign of things to come for the rest of the year.

Van.Bosch · 05-05-2021 12:57PM

rovers_runner wrote: »

F*ck that for a game of soldiers anyway, bad sign of things to come for the rest of the year.

Amsterdam is on a week before - they are allowing 12,500 into a football stadium in June so I think a marathon in October should be doable.

jams100 · 05-05-2021 01:01PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Amsterdam is on a week before - they are allowing 12,500 into a football stadium in June so I think a marathon in October should be doable.

But we have Dr Holohan

Golf clubs aren't even allowed have competitions until the 7th June, so I mean common sense doesn't seem to prevail these days.

Anyway I'll keep my fingers crossed it does actually go ahead this year, need something to keep us all focused

corcaigh07 · 05-05-2021 01:05PM

The country should be in a good place by June 25th. I'm hopeful anyway!

daydorunrun · 05-05-2021 01:05PM

From the Irish Times-

They remain optimistic - https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/dublin-marathon-optimistic-for-25-000-runners-this-october-1.4555926

The Davestator · 05-05-2021 01:39PM

If around 80% of adults are to be vaccinated by the end of June, that still leaves 4 MONTHS to catch up and allow outdoor events such as this to go ahead.

There really should not be any doubt that this can go ahead and it's a sign of how much we have all been conditioned by the 'abundance of caution' that we are pessimistic.

daydorunrun · 05-05-2021 02:03PM

The Davestator wrote: »

If around 80% of adults are to be vaccinated by the end of June, that still leaves 4 MONTHS to catch up and allow outdoor events such as this to go ahead.

There really should not be any doubt that this can go ahead and it's a sign of how much we have all been conditioned by the 'abundance of caution' that we are pessimistic.

But, but, but Variants. I'm not coming out from under my bed until somebody can give me written confirmation I will never get sick and will live forever.

healy1835 · 05-05-2021 09:22PM

I haven't seen any mention of the GFA entry process that had started last Spring but obviously never reached a conclusion. If DCM does go ahead in some shape or form will there be GFA places allocated? And if so, will they be allocated from last years applicants?

geodesic · 05-05-2021 09:28PM

The Davestator wrote: »

If around 80% of adults are to be vaccinated by the end of June, that still leaves 4 MONTHS to catch up and allow outdoor events such as this to go ahead.

The official goal (which is still in doubt) is have to have 80% of the adult population offered an appointment for their first jab by the end of June. It'll be at least another month after that, probably longer, before 80% of adults are actually vaccinated.

The current trajectory of vaccination is excruciatingly slow, averaging less than 24,000 jabs a day for the past month. At that rate it will take another 34 weeks to cover the everyone 16 years old and up.

TBH this seems like a sensible approach from the Dublin Marathon folks. Leave the door open to a pared down congregated event (no-one travelling from outside Ireland, no fresh entries to replace the 2020 people who opted for refunds, randomly select say half the remaining roll-overs from last year, widely staggered wave starts etc). But also plan for the virtual event, which may well end up as the only event.

Burkie1203 · 06-05-2021 06:57AM

geodesic wrote: »

The official goal (which is still in doubt) is have to have 80% of the adult population offered an appointment for their first jab by the end of June. It'll be at least another month after that, probably longer, before 80% of adults are actually vaccinated.

The current trajectory of vaccination is excruciatingly slow, averaging less than 24,000 jabs a day for the past month. At that rate it will take another 34 weeks to cover the everyone 16 years old and up.

TBH this seems like a sensible approach from the Dublin Marathon folks. Leave the door open to a pared down congregated event (no-one travelling from outside Ireland, no fresh entries to replace the 2020 people who opted for refunds, randomly select say half the remaining roll-overs from last year, widely staggered wave starts etc). But also plan for the virtual event, which may well end up as the only event.

Cannot just randomly select half the roll over entrants. It will have to be all or nothing (excluding overseas entrants) to be anywhere close to financially viable. I also wonder have they considered a route change for 2021

If govt are going to aim for test events with 10-15k in a stadium by mid summer, the same numbers can run a marathon in October.

geodesic · 06-05-2021 08:29AM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Cannot just randomly select half the roll over entrants. It will have to be all or nothing (excluding overseas entrants) to be anywhere close to financially viable.

Well, maybe. Though a few counterpoints spring to mind:

* the DCM has been run successfully with far fewer entrants in the past (granted costs such as insurance have skyrocketed since then)

* most people with a rollover entry from 2020 who are not selected are unlikely to create a stink about getting their money back immediately, in fact they're very likely to stump up another 15 euros to run the virtual event

* the whole virtual race series can be run at low cost and will likely generate a surplus that could cross-subsidize the physical event

* many people selected to run would be happy to pony up another say 50 quid on top of their entry money already paid to cover additional COVID costs

* DCM could max out the merch as they did last year (I bought a hoodie, rain jacket, 2 beanies, and 4 tshirts ... then again, I'm a sucker for that kinda stuff)

* DCM could shave some extraneous costs, like the blingy medal

* if it's cancelled again this year, the whole tradition will lose momentum for future years, eating into future revenue ... conversely getting the running community back in the saddle this year will solidify the brand and bolster future revenue

* KBC could be hit up for some extra sponsor money... oh, wait

Point is it could be doable in a pared down form with some creativity.

Cheers,
Eoghan

pudgeydev · 06-05-2021 09:18AM

From what I can see, anyone who has an entry from 2020 has been automatically moved to 2021.

I can see it in My Orders from Eventmaster.

Probably doesn't leave much room for additional entrants if 2020 was sold out, my guess would be that there wasn't a significant amount of people looking for refunds... could be wrong!

FinnC · 06-05-2021 09:21AM

I can see another lottery alright between those that have an entry since last year. Anyone then that had an entry and doesn’t get selected will be able carry over until 2022 for guaranteed entry. It would be disappointing not to be selected but most reasonable people would understand I’m sure.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see a change of route also.

sk8board · 06-05-2021 09:31AM

geodesic wrote: »

Well, maybe. Though a few counterpoints spring to mind:

* the DCM has been run successfully with far fewer entrants in the past (granted costs such as insurance have skyrocketed since then)

* most people with a rollover entry from 2020 who are not selected are unlikely to create a stink about getting their money back immediately, in fact they're very likely to stump up another 15 euros to run the virtual event

* the whole virtual race series can be run at low cost and will likely generate a surplus that could cross-subsidize the physical event

* many people selected to run would be happy to pony up another say 50 quid on top of their entry money already paid to cover additional COVID costs

* DCM could max out the merch as they did last year (I bought a hoodie, rain jacket, 2 beanies, and 4 tshirts ... then again, I'm a sucker for that kinda stuff)

* DCM could shave some extraneous costs, like the blingy medal

* if it's cancelled again this year, the whole tradition will lose momentum for future years, eating into future revenue ... conversely getting the running community back in the saddle this year will solidify the brand and bolster future revenue

* KBC could be hit up for some extra sponsor money... oh, wait

Point is it could be doable in a pared down form with some creativity.

Cheers,
Eoghan

I’m not trying to define a runner versus a participant, but the DCM is a street entertainment event for the city and spectators really, which happens to have runners taking part.
So so many of the participants value the entertainment, vibe, spectators, medal and finisher shirt far more than their time, and just want to cover the distance.
If it runs, I reckon it can only be either everyone, or else just the elites on a Phoenix park loop.

pudgeydev · 06-05-2021 09:39AM

pudgeydev wrote: »

From what I can see, anyone who has an entry from 2020 has been automatically moved to 2021.

I can see it in My Orders from Eventmaster.

Probably doesn't leave much room for additional entrants if 2020 was sold out, my guess would be that there wasn't a significant amount of people looking for refunds... could be wrong!

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geodesic · 06-05-2021 11:10AM

pudgeydev wrote: »

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Interestingly mine now has a big green 'Cancel & Refund Tickets' button enabled.

pudgeydev · 06-05-2021 11:31AM

Ah, so does mine when I go into the order.

I'll be keeping mine anyhow

geodesic · 06-05-2021 11:36AM

pudgeydev wrote: »

I'll be keeping mine anyhow

Yeap, me too ... worst case a guaranteed entry for 2022.

Consonata · 06-05-2021 12:15PM

I don't have a 2021 entry currently, so I'm guessing there is little chance of me getting a hold of one out of refunds?

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