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What's for you won't pass you.

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  • #32
    [Deleted User]
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    I dont think the saying means just sit back, do nothing and life will bring happiness, money and relationships to your feet. Its more a case of if you go out and try to make something of your life and it doesnt work out, which is inevitable on many occasions, there is a lesson in it and you have a choice- learn from it and try again or just give up, become a victim and let it define you.
    The saying is broad and means that life is an endless opportunity to learn.


    Not sure where you get that. Reading it literally it’s saying your faith is inevitable. Regardless. It’s for you. It won’t pass you by.

    Generally it’s meant kindly. After a breakup your assured that some relationship will happen again. It won’t pass you by.

    Still a bit passive though.


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    I dont think the saying means just sit back, do nothing and life will bring happiness, money and relationships to your feet. Its more a case of if you go out and try to make something of your life and it doesnt work out, which is inevitable on many occasions, there is a lesson in it and you have a choice- learn from it and try again or just give up, become a victim and let it define you.
    The saying is broad and means that life is an endless opportunity to learn.


    Not sure where you get that. Reading it literally it’s saying your faith is inevitable. Regardless. It’s for you. It won’t pass you by.

    Generally it’s meant kindly. After a breakup your assured that some relationship will happen again. It won’t pass you by.

    Still a bit passive though.


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    I dont think the saying means just sit back, do nothing and life will bring happiness, money and relationships to your feet. Its more a case of if you go out and try to make something of your life and it doesnt work out, which is inevitable on many occasions, there is a lesson in it and you have a choice- learn from it and try again or just give up, become a victim and let it define you.
    The saying is broad and means that life is an endless opportunity to learn.


    Not sure where you get that. Reading it literally it’s saying your fate is inevitable. Regardless. It’s for you. It won’t pass you by.

    Generally it’s meant kindly. After a breakup your assured that some relationship will happen again. It won’t pass you by.

    Still a bit passive though.


  • #35
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,163 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    That's a new one on me, but then I'm not from any Irish county. It sounds like something from The Secret, one of those wishful thinking "affirmations" you might hear from Gwyneth Paltrow or Deepak Chopra.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #36
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I agree! Sorry my post only referred to bad luck as it was a reply but I think the same randomness applies both ways. I just don't think we are born with random good or bad luck mapped out for us.

    i believe we are , of course how we respond is the crucial part but someone who doesnt encounter bad luck at a key moment does not face the same test as someone who does and so is less likely to fail


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  • #37
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,981 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    job seeker wrote: »
    I hear a lot of people use this phrase. Personally, I think that it's BS. Purely used as a coping mechanism. I have not ever experienced something happen to me because it was for me.

    It's a clumsy phrase, for sure, but there's a certain logic to it when you consider that life is 90% random luck. It's difficult to ascertain just how much good and bad fortune plays a part in everyone's life because it's so unquantifiable. But the reality is we have very little control over our lives in the long term.

    We can make choices in the immediate term, and people often mistake their choices as "control". But you can make all the "right" choices at a particular time and still end up in the shitter due unforeseen curve balls that life will throw at you.

    So I think the phrase is more about just learning to let things go, rather than to obsess about perceived lost victories that were never there for you to win in the first place. I think the phrase is just a nicer way of saying "deal with your shit and move on".


  • #38
    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Your Face wrote: »
    Agreed - a coping mechanism.
    Its for the salt of the earth sad-sacks at the bar who commiserate with each other over never really achieving anything of note. Every excuse under the sun for not even trying.

    What's a bar??


  • #39
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    When you work hard and dedicate yourself, what's for you might not go past you

    Flute about scratching your hole acting like the world owes you a living, well then the above doesn't really apply.


  • #40
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    * swipes left *


  • #41
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,981 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    lawred2 wrote: »
    When you work hard and dedicate yourself, what's for you might not go past you

    Flute about scratching your hole acting like the world owes you a living, well then the above doesn't really apply.

    This simply isn't true on any level.

    You could work hard for a certain something all of your life and it may elude you.

    Likewise, someone could sit on their arse and do nothing and something they want could arrive to them by sheer dumb luck.

    The idea that by simply working "hard" you'll get what you want is nonsense.


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  • #42
    amacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭amacca


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    No, but if you believe in fate you can justify anything. Delusional people are generally happier, because reality isn't always rosy.

    Id rather be happy than unhappy

    With the caveat that my happiness is of the benign sort that doesn't necessitate the suffering of others.


  • #43
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    i believe we are , of course how we respond is the crucial part but someone who doesnt encounter bad luck at a key moment does not face the same test as someone who does and so is less likely to fail

    You believe we are born with our destiny pre- mapped out?


  • #44
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The older Generation had a saying ''it God's will''. Call it what you like Karma, luck, not being lucky or what's for you will not pass you by.

    These expression come from having an acceptance of what life send you. They can be considered a positive or negative effect on your life. It back to when you see a half a glass of beer is it half full or half empty.

    In life to an extent you make your own luck. However some of you life is dictated by what your parents attitude to education and life in general. As a friend says there is no allowance now for natural ability.

    At school children are taught that it is possible to achieve anything on this life. However that is not entirely true. Unless you have certain natural abilities you will not achieve 550 points in your Leaving certificate. Now you can beat yourself up about not being able to study medicine or you can decide what's for you will not pass you by.

    It's much the same when misfortune happen you can strive and look for some one else to blame or decide it karma. ''Sh!t happens'' as a friend once said to me ''if it wasn't sh!t it wouldn't happen''

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #45
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,822 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    I think "no good deed goes unpunished" is a more realistic saying.


  • #46
    arccosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭arccosh


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    both bad luck and good luck are random , beit being hit by a drunk driver or winning the lotto

    the person involved did nothing to determine the outcome

    technically incorrect ... in those scenarios you need to buy a lotto ticket or be somewhere close to moving vehicles for a drunk driver to hit you.... both scenarios are controllable to a certain extent

    completely random, would be you lying in bed and a winning lotto ticket flying in through the window .... or you lying in the same bed, and a dunk driver crashing into your house, demolishing it and killing you in the process...

    technically again, scenario two you could have some control over by living in a field nowhere near a road, an island without alcohol or a boat in the middle of a body of water where a drunk driver can't hit you

    technically part two, for scenario 1, you would need a house with windows...

    etc...

    (sorry, I'm studying probability at the moment)


  • #47
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Tony EH wrote: »
    This simply isn't true on any level.

    You could work hard for a certain something all of your life and it may elude you.

    Likewise, someone could sit on their arse and do nothing and something they want could arrive to them by sheer dumb luck.

    The idea that by simply working "hard" you'll get what you want is nonsense.

    *Might not*


  • #48
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    blade1 wrote: »
    I think "no good deed goes unpunished" is a more realistic saying.

    Or do not temp fate.

    Reminds me of a story I heard. There was this lad that used to walk along the side of the road outside a small village towards the bus stop when he wanted to go to town. He never tumbled but people knew him and picked him up.

    One day a lad asked him why he did not put his thumb out to indicate he wanted a lift. He replied ''that if there was an accident and the driver was at fault that he get a bigger payout because the car driver picked him up without him indicating he wanted a lift''.

    People heard the story and less people picked him up and he had to take the bus more often. One morning he was walking out the road and a tire came off a truck and killed him.

    Do not tempt fate

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #49
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,822 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Or do not temp fate.

    Reminds me of a story I heard. There was this lad that used to walk along the side of the road outside a small village towards the bus stop when he wanted to go to town. He never tumbled but people knew him and picked him up.

    One day a lad asked him why he did not put his thumb out to indicate he wanted a lift. He replied ''that if there was an accident and the driver was at fault that he get a bigger payout because the car driver picked him up without him indicating he wanted a lift''.

    People heard the story and less people picked him up and he had to take the bus more often. One morning he was walking out the road and a tire came off a truck and killed him.

    Do not tempt fate

    There's also a saying "once a cnut, always a cnut" :D


  • #50
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    blade1 wrote: »
    There's also a saying "once a cnut, always a cnut" :D

    TBH from what I heard he may not have the full shilling as the saying goes

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #51
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Antares35 wrote: »
    You believe we are born with our destiny pre- mapped out?

    not exactly what i meant , No


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  • #52
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    arccosh wrote: »
    technically incorrect ... in those scenarios you need to buy a lotto ticket or be somewhere close to moving vehicles for a drunk driver to hit you.... both scenarios are controllable to a certain extent

    completely random, would be you lying in bed and a winning lotto ticket flying in through the window .... or you lying in the same bed, and a dunk driver crashing into your house, demolishing it and killing you in the process...

    technically again, scenario two you could have some control over by living in a field nowhere near a road, an island without alcohol or a boat in the middle of a body of water where a drunk driver can't hit you

    technically part two, for scenario 1, you would need a house with windows...

    etc...

    (sorry, I'm studying probability at the moment)


    pedantic much ?


  • #53
    Em ugh pop pfft
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Em ugh pop pfft


    Read half the thread but omg ffs. :rolleyes:

    It's a saying. Imo it's not meant too be picked apart literally. Its not a saying I use myself, but it means '**** it, pull yourself together, there's more out there for you'

    It is a comfort thing but not necessarily in the superior crap shyte you hear on here like 'humans are inferior flawed beings that need to be fooled by themselves' :rolleyes: and no its not self deceiving. It's actually straight upl saying 'face up, **** it what's next'

    The value in the message is that of the person saying it to you. The comfort is not self deceit but that someone takes the time to say 'hey it's not a big deal, etc' people are not fools, that is the comfort in it. That your pal or even yourself is telling you '**** it, move on to the next'

    They are trying to comfort the other person by saying 'its no big deal' and that is the value!!! It's not what they are saying literally!!! It's that they took the time to comfort you, to say 'hey there's more out there for you'. Even when people say it to themself, it's just good selftalk.


  • #54
    jk23
    Closed Accounts Posts: 877 ✭✭✭jk23


    Can't be much worse than "it is what it is!!"


  • #55
    Emperor.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭Emperor.


    jk23 wrote: »
    Can't be much worse than "it is what it is!!"

    It's what it is


  • #56
    arccosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭arccosh


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    pedantic much ?

    it's been a long day of study


  • #57
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Emperor. wrote: »
    It's what it is

    We are where we are.


  • #58
    Em ugh pop pfft
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Em ugh pop pfft


    jk23 wrote: »
    Can't be much worse than "it is what it is!!"

    How are any of these sayings bad tho?

    If you're in a situation and you're chatting or confiding in someone...wtf do you expect them to say to you?


  • #59
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Em ugh pop pfft wrote: »
    How are any of these sayings bad tho?

    If you're in a situation and you're chatting or confiding in someone...wtf do you expect them to say to you?

    Something more than a meaningless platitude. Although I think the worst is, "cheer up it could be worse". :D


  • #60
    Emperor.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭Emperor.


    Antares35 wrote: »
    We are where we are.

    I'm quoting a movie

    Just saying


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  • #61
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭begbysback


    job seeker wrote: »
    I hear a lot of people use this phrase. Personally, I think that it's BS. Purely used as a coping mechanism. I have not ever experienced something happen to me because it was for me.

    Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

    Well Ted, if it didn’t pass you and arrived on your doorstep then it was for you, if it passed you then obviously it wasn’t for you. It’s actually basic logic Ted.


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