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Attic conversion - opinions / tips

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  • 23-04-2021 5:22pm
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    ftm2008
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    Attic conversion
    Did some rough sketches so it’s bedroom in the centre with an office to the front and ensuite / dressing room at the back
    I’m def a lay person when it comes to a build so looking for any tips or opinions on the feasibility of layout, getting natural light in, heating. TIA.


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    Gumbo
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    ftm2008 wrote: »
    Attic conversion
    Did some rough sketches so it’s bedroom in the centre with an office to the front and ensuite / dressing room at the back
    I’m def a lay person when it comes to a build so looking for any tips or opinions on the feasibility of layout, getting natural light in, heating. TIA.

    Must be a big attic to fit all that in under the roof.

    Have you got a photo of what your house looks like outside?


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    I don’t but it’s 3 bed semi D and the roof is high pitched..
    a number other houses in the estate have 2 attic rooms to front and back but I’m looking to do it differently
    measurements are included if helps


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    ec_pc
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    How are you getting light into the bedroom? Velux?

    If It was me I would swap the ensuite and walk in wardrobe around, so you go through the walk in wardrobe to get to the ensuite. We have that in our house and the flow works quite well

    Would you consider dumping the walk in wardrobe, reduce office size and move ensuite over beside offce thus giving a larger bedroom space?


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    ftm2008
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    ec_pc wrote: »
    How are you getting light into the bedroom? Velux?

    If It was me I would swap the ensuite and walk in wardrobe around, so you go through the walk in wardrobe to get to the ensuite. We have that in our house and the flow works quite well

    Would you consider dumping the walk in wardrobe, reduce office size and move ensuite over beside offce thus giving a larger bedroom space?

    Velux for windows (or keylight im hearing is equal but lower cost)
    I was planning on putting one directly over the shower .. saw a photo of this and it really liked the idea


    interesting ...i had a door far end to go to wardrobe then into ensuite but i changed ... i wanted to push the door to the end of the room away from the top of the bed for space reasons but i might revisit

    dumping the walk in wardrobe is an option ... i guess i like the idea of segregating them .. and nice to walk from bedroom to dressing area ..


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    BryanF
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    section please with a few dimensions


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    Gumbo
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    ftm2008 wrote: »
    I don’t but it’s 3 bed semi D and the roof is high pitched..
    a number other houses in the estate have 2 attic rooms to front and back but I’m looking to do it differently
    measurements are included if helps

    I see the dimensions but are those dimensions taken from wall to wall?
    You physically won’t have the space around the edges for rooms.

    I think youve overestimated the actual useable floor space if it’s a typical Dublin 3 bed semi, even with high pitch roof planes.


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    DOCARCH
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    Looks very optimistic for a 3 bed semi even with a high roof pitch? Unless your family are mice?


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    Ok so appears i am been overly optimistic.. looks like I’ll have to rethink this


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    ec_pc
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    And looking at the dimensions, how usable will a walk in wardrobe room of 1.6 x 2 m be? You won't fit many wardrobes in that space, really would be better given back to bed room or else the en suite.

    When we were extending, my wife couldn't envisage the sizes of the rooms so I marked them all out in the back garden with builders twine and then she could see the size of the rooms and we made some changes then.


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    DOCARCH
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    ftm2008 wrote: »
    Ok so appears i am been overly optimistic.. looks like I’ll have to rethink this

    What I would suggest is go up to your attic and stand in front of where you have proposed wc and see what happens? If you can stand in front of of the proposed wc location, you are on to a winner of plan! We all suspect that you would be lucky to be able to even crawl to that location!


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    ftm2008
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    thanks for the constructive comments..
    @DOCARCH - where the wc is and by standing in front I may have enough room to stand depending how high the floor is raised.. roof is a standard truss roof so where the W truss starts is approx 5ft with crawl space beyond
    height from floor to ridge is prob 15ft unmeasured

    @wc_pc .. nice idea..

    @BryanF what dimensions you looking for

    @Gumbo - yea i may have miscalculated but I dont think im that far off making maybe 1 of the eaves possible.. or at least hoping :)


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    Gumbo
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    ftm2008 wrote: »
    thanks for the constructive comments..
    @DOCARCH - where the wc is and by standing in front I may have enough room to stand depending how high the floor is raised.. roof is a standard truss roof so where the W truss starts is approx 5ft with crawl space beyond
    height from floor to ridge is prob 15ft unmeasured

    @wc_pc .. nice idea..

    @BryanF what dimensions you looking for

    @Gumbo - yea i may have miscalculated but I dont think im that far off making maybe 1 of the eaves possible.. or at least hoping :)

    Still think your misunderstanding the dimensions and what’s possible.
    I do t think it can be done.


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Still think your misunderstanding the dimensions and what’s possible.
    I do t think it can be done.
    ok thats fair .. what then could i expect to be usuable dimensions?


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    Gumbo
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    ftm2008 wrote: »
    ok thats fair .. what then could i expect to be usuable dimensions?

    Show a picture of the house. We would learn a lot from that.
    Show a section through the attic space with dimensions.

    You say a typical 3 bed semi. If that’s the case, what you’ve sketched won’t work or fit.


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    BryanF
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    BryanF wrote: »
    section please with a few dimensions

    Stand in the centre of the attic and measure from ridge (top of sectional triangle) to the floor.


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    Def_IRL
    Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭Def_IRL


    ftm2008 wrote: »
    Attic conversion
    Did some rough sketches so it’s bedroom in the centre with an office to the front and ensuite / dressing room at the back
    I’m def a lay person when it comes to a build so looking for any tips or opinions on the feasibility of layout, getting natural light in, heating. TIA.

    Is that proposed as a dormer?
    Remember planning will only allow you build a dormer out to a maximum of 50% of the overall width of the roof, and it must also be at least 1mtr off any adjacent neighbouring roof plane boundaries.
    They don't like Mansards either, so the dormer has to be stepped back in (by about three roof tiles).


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    BryanF wrote: »
    Stand in the centre of the attic and measure from ridge (top of sectional triangle) to the floor.
    Its approx 3.3m


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    Def_IRL wrote: »
    Is that proposed as a dormer?
    Remember planning will only allow you build a dormer out to a maximum of 50% of the overall width of the roof, and it must also be at least 1mtr off any adjacent neighbouring roof plane boundaries.
    They don't like Mansards either, so the dormer has to be stepped back in (by about three roof tiles).
    not a dormer... i am looking to maximise the amount of usable space int he attic


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    ongarite
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    See attached PDF screenshot of typical 3 bed semi-d attic conversion.
    You will only get 1 room plus bathroom or storage area.


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    ongarite wrote: »
    See attached PDF screenshot of typical 3 bed semi-d attic conversion.
    You will only get 1 room plus bathroom or storage area.
    thanks... looks like this maybe the way I have to go.. bedroom looks like it has plenty room for wardrobe.. may need to drop a little offfice room


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Show a picture of the house. We would learn a lot from that.
    Show a section through the attic space with dimensions.

    You say a typical 3 bed semi. If that’s the case, what you’ve sketched won’t work or fit.
    not sure if this is what you were looking for ... I was tring to put a shower to the back and a desk to work from at to the front.
    seems that it aint gonna be posssible :)


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    Gumbo
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    ftm2008 wrote: »
    not sure if this is what you were looking for ... I was tring to put a shower to the back and a desk to work from at to the front.
    seems that it aint gonna be posssible :)

    You’ll get a fantastic attic conversion up there.
    You just won’t get all those rooms you posted in the OP.


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    ftm2008
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭ftm2008


    Will need need an engineer or architect for top up mortgage
    Which would be the better option overall


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