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hmmm · 26-04-2021 03:20PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Po-faced sources would make you laugh! Sure but that technical knowledge on mRNA will be applied in other ways down the line to other medical challenges.

Completely unfair to expect a private company to give up its technology, this will only benefit competitors - it's not like some poor country is going to find an easy way to start up mRNA manufacturing. Western countries can fund no-profit partnerships or vaccine supplies to countries which otherwise couldn't afford the vaccine.

Or better still Western regulators need to stop increasing worldwide vaccine hesitancy with unnecessary restrictions on the cheaper vaccines because we have the mRNA alternatives.

Russman · 26-04-2021 03:22PM

JTMan wrote: »

Update from the Irish Times on J&J NIAC decision here.

You'd at least hope that Tony has already considered the 3 or 4 most likely recommendations from NIAC and has his response ready, rather than needing a few days to mull on it.

ebbsy · 26-04-2021 03:23PM

Vaccination centers at colleges etc would be a good idea perhaps ?

lbj666 · 26-04-2021 03:24PM

I think we are obsessing over which cohorts will be done by end of June too much. What percentage of the population is what matters in the bigger picture of immunity in the populaton. If take up is exceptional and 80% done , yet there is a big chunk of the younger cohorts still to do thats a good problem to have, wouldnt really call it a problem.

Russman · 26-04-2021 03:24PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Vaccination centers at colleges etc would be a good idea perhaps ?

There are several aren't there ?

PTH2009 · 26-04-2021 03:28PM

I'd go anywhere if it meant I was getting the jabs

26-04-2021 03:31PM

Surely rolling out doses to pharmacies would help with accessibility and take up. MVCs were supposed to be one part of the rollout alongside GPs and pharmacies, but it's exclusively MVCs now for the vast majority of under 70s.

MVCs are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but they shouldn't be the only channel available.

PhilOssophy · 26-04-2021 03:31PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Vaccination centers at colleges etc would be a good idea perhaps ?

In May/June? Why?

Bloody hell, there is never a word about getting to Electric Picnic or a game in Aviva Stadium or a 21st in the back asre of Galway or Roscommon.

Students are well able to get around the place - I was able to get around to anything and everything when I was one. If people make an issue of it, there will be an issue.

By the time their turn comes around, many will be back in their native counties. They will be able to get to these centres.

TheDoctor · 26-04-2021 03:31PM

Be interesting to see how many days the gap is between 60 y.o registering tomorrow and when its open for 59 y.o.

ACitizenErased · 26-04-2021 03:32PM

Flying Fox wrote: »

Surely rolling out doses to pharmacies would help with accessibility and take up. MVCs were supposed to be one part of the rollout alongside GPs and pharmacies, but it's exclusively MVCs now for the vast majority of under 70s.

MVCs are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but they shouldn't be the only channel available.

Pharmacies will be vaccinating. Had a seminar with a rep from the pharmacy department in UCC a few weeks back and they're all ready to go. PSI have been training pharmacies weekly for a few months now.

PhilOssophy · 26-04-2021 03:35PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Pharmacies will be vaccinating. Had a seminar with a rep from the pharmacy department in UCC a few weeks back and they're all ready to go. PSI have been training pharmacies weekly for a few months now.

Is it not simpler logistically to just have MVC's do them? Rather than having to deliver vaccines/syringes/etc to every pharmacy? The MVC's will be well oiled machines, is it purely supply of vaccinators that is the benefit of using pharmacies?

RavenBea17b · 26-04-2021 03:39PM

Are local parish and community halls not being utilised as vaccination centres for more rural locations - if not, why not?
Supermarket carpark large tent/marquee etc.

Sweet.Science · 26-04-2021 03:40PM

Registered the folks this morning. What type of wait time until a text comes through should i be expecting ?

Tony H · 26-04-2021 03:41PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Be interesting to see how many days the gap is between 60 y.o registering tomorrow and when its open for 59 y.o.

one time I'm glad to be a year older , I have an autoimmune disease and no sign of me getting it sooner because of that , so I'll take the Astra Zeneca gladly , my other half is freaking out over the clotting issue and will probably wait for the Pfizer or moderna , can't be persuaded otherwise ,
said she would be looking for symptoms for the month after getting it .

26-04-2021 03:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Pharmacies will be vaccinating. Had a seminar with a rep from the pharmacy department in UCC a few weeks back and they're all ready to go. PSI have been training pharmacies weekly for a few months now.

I'm sure the pharmacists are ready to go but opening the supply to them is slow. Looks like there's a trial going on with 15 pharmacies around now. Hope it picks up fast.

secman · 26-04-2021 03:42PM

My wife registered last Monday and got text on Friday, vaccinated on Sat.
Citywest Dublin

stephenjmcd · 26-04-2021 03:42PM

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Sweet.Science wrote: »

Registered the folks this morning. What type of wait time until a text comes through should i be expecting ?

All depends on the area, how many in each age group, deliveries coming in etc

Registered my father last Monday morning aged 65 and not heard anything yet.

Nearest MVC for us I think we'll be the Aviva so probably depends on how they're going.

Stark · 26-04-2021 03:42PM

My mother (64) registered last Friday got a text this morning saying she has an appointment for Saturday. Though given it's Astrazenaca, they probably need to make sure they actually have the deliveries in the country before they schedule appointments for people. Not sure if they've enough to cover everyone over 60 yet.

Sweet.Science · 26-04-2021 03:43PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

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All depends on the area, how many in each age group, deliveries coming in etc

Registered my father last Monday morning aged 65 and not heard anything yet.

From reading peoples comments it seems the wait is longer between registration and text than it is from text and vaccination

titan18 · 26-04-2021 03:44PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Be interesting to see how many days the gap is between 60 y.o registering tomorrow and when its open for 59 y.o.

You'd assume groups 4 and 7 have to be done or close to done before they open up for 59 and under.

is_that_so · 26-04-2021 03:44PM

Stark wrote: »

My mother (64) registered last Friday got a text this morning saying she has an appointment for Saturday. Though given it's Astrazenaca, they probably need to make sure they actually have the deliveries in the country before they schedule appointments for people. Not sure if they've enough to cover everyone over 60 yet.

There's a decent sized consignment this week, 100K+ I believe.

funnydoggy · 26-04-2021 03:45PM

MTU's medical centre has started vaccinating students in category 4 & 7.

stephenjmcd · 26-04-2021 03:45PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

From reading peoples comments it seems the wait is longer between registration and text than it is from text and vaccination

Oh yeah, the appointment should be for a few days after the text. Hoping to hear this week for the father. If we hear early in the week i'd expect the appointment to be for end of the week probably.

AZ messing things around probably makes it difficult, such as pushing out the 100k+ delivery last week and then by Thursday saying it was back on track again. Nightmare to schedule around that

26-04-2021 03:46PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Is it not simpler logistically to just have MVC's do them? Rather than having to deliver vaccines/syringes/etc to every pharmacy? The MVC's will be well oiled machines, is it purely supply of vaccinators that is the benefit of using pharmacies?

Many people live a great distance from their nearest MVC, and not everyone drives.

Galway is a good example, a large county with only one MVC.

MrStuffins · 26-04-2021 03:57PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Registered the folks this morning. What type of wait time until a text comes through should i be expecting ?

If it helps, I just got off the phone to the HSE and they told me that, although outliers are getting some early texts, the general wait time form registration to text is 3 weeks.

hmmm · 26-04-2021 03:58PM

RavenBea17b wrote: »

Are local parish and community halls not being utilised as vaccination centres for more rural locations - if not, why not?
Supermarket carpark large tent/marquee etc.

Israel had a couple of mobile units which pull up at various locations. Makes a lot of sense once the MVCs start to wind down and you're trying to reach the remaining groups with lots of vaccine supply to hand.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/vaccination-unit-set-up-to-inoculate-israelis-on-forest-stroll/

JPA · 26-04-2021 04:01PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

If it helps, I just got off the phone to the HSE and they told me that, although outliers are getting some early texts, the general wait time form registration to text is 3 weeks.

The portal is only open 11 days and many thousands have been vaccinated so how is it 3 weeks?

iamwhoiam · 26-04-2021 04:05PM

JPA wrote: »

The portal is only open 11 days and many thousands have been vaccinated so how is it 3 weeks?

I registered on a Saturday and got my ttext on the Monday . 2.5 days
Everyone I know waited no more than 5 days for a text

Valhallapt · 26-04-2021 04:10PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I registered on a Saturday and got my ttext on the Monday . 2.5 days
Everyone I know waited no more than 5 days for a text

Registered my mother and my aunt both 68 on at the first opportunity. Aunt got text 2 days later and then her vaccine last Saturday in the helix. My mother hasn’t got a text yet, she is in Kildare so it’s location dependent.

Miike · 26-04-2021 04:11PM

RavenBea17b wrote: »

Are local parish and community halls not being utilised as vaccination centres for more rural locations - if not, why not?
Supermarket carpark large tent/marquee etc.

The problem right now isn't vaccination centers. None of our vaccination centers in the country are running at capacity. Why would we open more? Lets get the ones we have running at capacity and not add logistical complexity to the system.

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