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Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

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  • #3422
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,170 ✭✭✭trellheim


    High points of daily shots first, second, all types


    5 March 19449
    24 Mar 23330
    25 March 27490
    1 April 30915
    15 April 34596

    New High
    21 April 34863 ( although not by a huge amount, but still )

    Most high points have been thursdays so hopefully more good news tomorrow


  • #3423
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Cheers and thanks for the additional smart comment.

    It was literally the second result when searching for "moderna variants", I was very tempted to post a "let me google that for you" link!

    Just on etiquette when posting, if you are looking for someone's opinion on mRNA vs. variants, then it's fine to ask open ended question, and people can give you their opinion back and may include sources, but if you're asking someone for links that are literally a simple search away, then it's really seen as bad manners to post as such. It's also starts off the conversation on the defensive as you're implying that there is no data on Moderna vs. variants because you haven't been able to find any so it doesn't exist, and thus there is an issue with Moderna vs. variants, when this isn't the case at all.

    Now, maybe you did search and couldn't find any, or maybe you were in a rush and typed a post quickly, but be careful with your phrasing and implications of that phrasing because the next time you ask for links people will immediately think you're posting in bad faith. "Anyone got a link about J&J and the India variant, I can't find anything at all".


  • #3424
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    I see Curevac haven’t finalised their manufacturing partnerships. Any chance it might get part manufactured in Ireland?


  • #3425
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    trellheim wrote: »
    High points of daily shots first, second, all types


    5 March 19449
    24 Mar 23330
    25 March 27490
    1 April 30915
    15 April 34596

    New High
    21 April 34863 ( although not by a huge amount, but still )

    Most high points have been thursdays so hopefully more good news tomorrow

    Paul Reid already confirmed 39k+ on Thursday.


  • #3426
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1385576219798867968?s=21


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  • #3427
    JPup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭JPup


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Maybe I should hold out on the holidays from work for the second dose so!

    Would it not count as a sick day if you are too unwell to work?


  • #3428
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1385576219798867968?s=21

    Chad Pfizer vaccine vs Virgin AZ vaccine :pac:


  • #3429
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    astrofool wrote: »
    It was literally the second result when searching for "moderna variants", I was very tempted to post a "let me google that for you" link!

    Just on etiquette when posting, if you are looking for someone's opinion on mRNA vs. variants, then it's fine to ask open ended question, and people can give you their opinion back and may include sources, but if you're asking someone for links that are literally a simple search away, then it's really seen as bad manners to post as such. It's also starts off the conversation on the defensive as you're implying that there is no data on Moderna vs. variants because you haven't been able to find any so it doesn't exist, and thus there is an issue with Moderna vs. variants, when this isn't the case at all.

    Now, maybe you did search and couldn't find any, or maybe you were in a rush and typed a post quickly, but be careful with your phrasing and implications of that phrasing because the next time you ask for links people will immediately think you're posting in bad faith. "Anyone got a link about J&J and the India variant, I can't find anything at all".


    Well I wasn't, I literally searched and could only find links to a new booster for Moderna for the South African variant so was genuinely confused.

    Might be more in your line not to frighten people off who are looking for information. The terminology alone in the link you did post could be confusing to some.


  • #3430
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,620 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1385576219798867968?s=21

    Pfizer and Moderna are saving us.

    Anyone have an idea of the increase in scale?


  • #3431
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    AdamD wrote: »
    I would imagine they legally can't do that as at this point they wouldn't be able to state with much certainty what the odds of a bad outcome are


    The cost of every tribunal in the history of the state would still come out significantly lower than the cost of a week extra in lockdown

    Yup , but the problem is individuals are asked to make calls on safety/recommendation of vacines , where they see a clear path to court/enquiries whatever if something goes ary. It numbs them into conservative decisions. For the same reason the government is happy to stay out of it for the most part and seem to provide no sort of amnesty for any of it.

    Compare that to who do you point the finger for loss of life or economic damages from covid attributed to arguably unneeded delays to the vacine rollout and things are way way muddier. Probably be a tribunal more expensive than all the others combined.


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  • #3432
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    eleventh wrote: »
    Genuine concerns, as were the concerns of this person.

    Advice if you want it is to wait.

    I don’t see the connection between my concern over the vaccine having rare blood clotting side effects and someone who is clearly trolling by suggesting that it’s some “unapproved experimental gene therapy” or not a vaccine at all. Those concerns were not in good faith, and I had already expressed my concern over the blood clotting side effect before that person’s ridiculous gene therapy comment. Come on, don’t be silly.


  • #3433
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1385576219798867968?s=21

    Is this the basis for the extra 500k pfizer doses announced last week, or is it another extra positive development.


  • #3434
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,443 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well I wasn't, I literally searched and could only find links to a new booster for Moderna for the South African variant so was genuinely confused.

    Might be more in your line not to frighten people off who are looking for information. The terminology alone in the link you did post could be confusing to some.

    Which is exactly why I added the TLDR into it, but then we're back to you actually wanting an opinion on Moderna vs. variants and not links. As said, maybe it was just unfortunate phrasing, and you really couldn't find the details, but you're starting off defensively, then making a post about the "smart comment", then clarified you wanted a layman's version of the information because the link could be confusing (to yourself or others?, and again this puts you on the defensive and will want a witty comment to come back with, so I can withdraw and just leave it be).


  • #3435
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,620 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Is this the basis for the extra 500k pfizer doses announced last week, or is it another extra positive development.

    I believe its another positive on top of the 500k


  • #3436
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Israel recorded 0 deaths yesterday for the first time in 10 months


  • #3437
    Qrt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Qrt


    For the love of christ will yous shut the f**k but about Timmy!


  • #3438
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Qrt wrote: »
    For the love of christ will yous shut the f**k but about Timmy!
    .
    latest?cb=20140613132500


  • #3439
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Qrt wrote: »
    For the love of christ will yous shut the f**k but about Timmy!

    Well done, made Timmy cry


  • #3440
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Poor Timmy just wants to study for his Leaving Cert


  • #3441
    Hmmzis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Pfizer and Moderna are saving us.

    Anyone have an idea of the increase in scale?

    Earlier there were reports that Moderna were looking at increasing the fill of the vials from 10 to 15 doses. It would allow them to ship more with less vials as the fill and finish part was a bottleneck for them. Not sure about Pfizer with regard to this announcement.


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  • #3442
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Lithuania were the first EU country to get to 30 vaccines per 100 yesterday without using Russian or Chinese vaccines. Spain almost certain to join them today. Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Estonia, Belgium, Austria and Finland will all get there this weekend.

    30 cases per 100 looks to protect against major spread of covid. Looking at Israel, Hungary and Uruguay that is when the drop off in cases starts.


  • #3443
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    snotboogie wrote: »
    Lithuania were the first EU country to get to 30 vaccines per 100 yesterday without using Russian or Chinese vaccines. Spain almost certain to join them today. Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Estonia, Belgium, Austria and Finland will all get there this weekend.

    30 cases per 100 looks to protect against major spread of covid. Looking at Israel, Hungary and Uruguay that is when the drop off in cases starts.


    Does 30 vaccines per 100 mean that 30% of pop have at least one dose.

    Or total first and second doses figure equals 30% of pop?


  • #3444
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    thebaz wrote: »
    our NIAC seams more over-cautious than even NPHET, taking the weekend off to think about it - meanwhile citizens of the country are in lockdown for a year and most are urgently awaiting vaccinations, and a return to some form of nomality. Sighhh.

    How many other countries worldwide have made a decision on it?


  • #3445
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,430 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    snotboogie wrote: »

    30 cases per 100 looks to protect against major spread of covid. Looking at Israel, Hungary and Uruguay that is when the drop off in cases starts.

    What number are we at?


  • #3446
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1385580666629234688


  • #3447
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,206 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    leahyl wrote: »
    What number are we at?

    ~25 per 100


  • #3448
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Too late to vaccinate poor young Timmy now... Sadly, he died about 3 or 4 pages back... I heard it in the Pub... His Sister sister is still alive though...

    Joined the nuns I heard.


  • #3449
    adam240610
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭adam240610


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1385576219798867968?s=21

    "The recommendation by the Agency’s Committee for Human Medicines (CHMP) is expected to have a significant impact on the supply of Comirnaty, the COVID-19 vaccine developed by BioNTech and Pfizer, in the European Union."

    This sounds like a very sizeable increase, Pfizer demonstrating under promise over deliver excellently


  • #3450
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,796 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Does 30 vaccines per 100 mean that 30% of pop have at least one dose.

    Or total first and second doses figure equals 30% of pop?

    30 doses for every hundred people total, first and second included.

    Ireland are at 25.5. I think we get to 30 around the 2nd of May at our current rate


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  • #3451
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,159 ✭ [Deleted User]


    AdamD wrote: »
    This makes sense on an individual level for Timmy if there are no knock on effects. But on a societal level, if we have to wait for all under 50s to be vaccinated by Pfizer we will have extended restrictions.

    Who says we need all under 50s vaccinated before we ease restrictions though?


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