Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

iamwhoiam · 22-04-2021 08:36PM

JPup wrote: »

One dose of J&J gives similar protection to one dose of AZ so you are no worse off medically speaking and will be better off most likely once you have the second dose.

Thanks for the info that good to know . . Ah no I am delighted to have it but can imagine if a vaccine passport is needed for anything thr 60-70,s will be a tiny bit miffed !

Goldengirl · 22-04-2021 08:37PM

Strazdas wrote: »

It's very possible J & J recipients will get a second dose of something else a bit later anyway.

Yes. A booster .
Your comment reads like they might get Covid , but we know you didn't mean that :eek:

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 08:38PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes. A booster .
Your comment reads like they might get Covid , but we know you didn't mean that :eek:

Haha, that would be somewhat defeating the purpose of the vaccine

eoinbn · 22-04-2021 09:09PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I'd say a fair few over 50s will receive Pfizer and Moderna as well if J & J is available (as the aim is to vaccinate 80% of the entire adult population, right down to late teenagers, in the next 10 weeks).

If it is restricted to the over 50s it will be interesting to see what they do.
70% of J&J is due in June and probably a lot of it in late June. Should we vaccinate the 50s in parallel to the 60s? One with J&J the other with AZ? Do we vaccinate the 30-49s in parallel with mRNA while the over 50s wait for J&J?
If we just use what is available then in theory the over 50s could be done in the first half of June with hundreds of thousands of J&J going unused.

sporina · 22-04-2021 09:18PM

people who have a terminal illness.. where are they in the vaccine rollout?

Gael23 · 22-04-2021 09:43PM

I’m getting my first vaccine next week.
On immune suppressant injections along with various other conditions

ACitizenErased · 22-04-2021 09:46PM

sporina wrote: »

people who have a terminal illness.. where are they in the vaccine rollout?

group 4 one would assume

ACitizenErased · 22-04-2021 09:48PM

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1385331565073518597?s=20

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 09:59PM

eoinbn wrote: »

If it is restricted to the over 50s it will be interesting to see what they do.
70% of J&J is due in June and probably a lot of it in late June. Should we vaccinate the 50s in parallel to the 60s? One with J&J the other with AZ? Do we vaccinate the 30-49s in parallel with mRNA while the over 50s wait for J&J?
If we just use what is available then in theory the over 50s could be done in the first half of June with hundreds of thousands of J&J going unused.

I'm assuming that giving J & J only to people in their 50s would be somewhat unworkable. Surely the logical thing to do would be to give them whatever is available and to hand in May and June, be it J & J, Pfizer or Moderna - especially if the plan is they mostly get vaccinated before those in their 40s and 30s.

That would free up a good few J & J doses for younger people.....something that age cohort might feel happy about (again, assuming that there is no age cut off point for J & J, unlike with AZ).

Zipppy · 22-04-2021 10:15PM

Daughter in Canada, 26, registered for vaccine today.
This country is a shambles run by gombeens...

TheDoctor · 22-04-2021 10:18PM

Zipppy wrote: »

Daughter in Canada, 26, registered for vaccine today.
This country is a shambles run by gombeens...

Dont have to go that far. Work colleagues who are from the North, mid-thirties now eligible to register for vaccines.

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 10:21PM

Zipppy wrote: »

Daughter in Canada, 26, registered for vaccine today.
This country is a shambles run by gombeens...

Not sure what way they're doing the age cohorts in Canada, but it doesn't sound like they are doing it similar to us : about 25% of people there have received a first dose.

Cork2021 · 22-04-2021 10:33PM

Telegraph in England saying pandemic is over and Covid is now endemic. We are only a few weeks away from this!

https://twitter.com/robohanrahan/status/1385343504352784384?s=21

JPup · 22-04-2021 10:39PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not sure what way they're doing the age cohorts in Canada, but it doesn't sound like they are doing it similar to us : about 25% of people there have received a first dose.

Yeah I just checked it. Very similar to ourselves. Unless your daughter is in a high risk group that’s a bad sign for their rollout. Should be doing older people first where supplies are limited.

WoollyRedHat · 22-04-2021 10:39PM

B2021M wrote: »

Totally agree. A country that fought two world wars will always have a better response to a crisis. They have a different psyche and approach to risk.

Sorry but that's a weird way of looking at things and doesn't stand up to truth. I know this is the vaccine thread but the UK had a playbook for dealing with pandemics and threw it out to their detriment, while Singapore* adopted their strategy with brilliant results. The UK's approach to risk has a been a haphazard one throughout.

*previously mentioned Taiwan, in original post, have edited, it was actually Singapore that copied UK's Pandemic Playbook, but point still stands.
https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-politics-2020-4-uk-was-complacent-over-pandemic-risks-review-lead-says/

Sparko · 22-04-2021 10:45PM

I see the portal is now updated to allow the 60 to 64 year olds to register.

My mother registered last Friday and has an appointment this coming Saturday, and my dad will be eligible to register tomorrow so hopefully they get to him quickly too. Such a relief.

_Godot_ · 22-04-2021 10:54PM

I was actually called and offered a vaccine earlier today (with an appointment next Thursday). I'm 38 and considered vulnerable. Hopefully people will get called or letters or something about appointments.

TomOnBoard · 22-04-2021 10:58PM

Sparko wrote: »

I see the portal is now updated to allow the 60 to 64 year olds to register.

My mother registered last Friday and has an appointment this coming Saturday, and my dad will be eligible to register tomorrow so hopefully they get to him quickly too. Such a relief.

Tell yer Ma she was a baby snatcher when she married a younger man...

Daniel2021 · 22-04-2021 10:59PM

Anyone know if the 60 - 64 year old vaccine registration has a date by which they need to be 60. I've a relative who is turning 60 in a couple of months and when I had a look the site seems to ask what the year of birth is. Not sure if further on you have to give exact date of birth. Based on the fact that they are turning 60 soon do you think they can register?

celt262 · 22-04-2021 10:59PM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Dont have to go that far. Work colleagues who are from the North, mid-thirties now eligible to register for vaccines.

I think we will catch up with them.

snotboogie · 22-04-2021 11:01PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not sure what way they're doing the age cohorts in Canada, but it doesn't sound like they are doing it similar to us : about 25% of people there have received a first dose.

Canada are at 29 doses per 100 we are at 25.5. They were far behind us last month and have been consistently hitting 0.6 to 0.8 per 100 vaccinated per day recently. Today we hit 0.4 per 100, which was our best day this week.

We have had no real ramp up this month and are strarting to fall behind other Western nations. France, Germany, Spain and Italy have all had significant increases over the last two weeks and are constantly getting to about 0.5 per day.

secman · 22-04-2021 11:10PM

Daniel2021 wrote: »

Anyone know if the 60 - 64 year old vaccine registration has a date by which they need to be 60. I've a relative who is turning 60 in a couple of months and when I had a look the site seems to ask what the year of birth is. Not sure if further on you have to give exact date of birth. Based on the fact that they are turning 60 soon do you think they can register?

It starts off by asking the year of birth but as you go further through the process it requires PPS number and actual date of birth.

Bit cynical · 22-04-2021 11:19PM

celt262 wrote: »

I think we will catch up with them.

Eventually we will as their vaccinations will be complete at some point.

3DataModem · 22-04-2021 11:31PM

Jumping into this late.

To all of you who have been following this closely, what do you think the approx timescale for a 46 year old Group 7 getting a vaccine?

I know it is impossible to say, but open to guesses. I've been invited to a 70th birthday in July (literally everyone at the party except me will definitely be vaccinated due to age or residing in GB/NI).

Valhallapt · 22-04-2021 11:35PM

snotboogie wrote: »

Canada are at 29 doses per 100 we are at 25.5. They were far behind us last month and have been consistently hitting 0.6 to 0.8 per 100 vaccinated per day recently. Today we hit 0.4 per 100, which was our best day this week.

We have had no real ramp up this month and are strarting to fall behind other Western nations. France, Germany, Spain and Italy have all had significant increases over the last two weeks and are constantly getting to about 0.5 per day.

The media need to turn the screw, everyday we need to ask why we are falling behind? What is being done to correct course? When will course be corrected?

hynesie08 · 22-04-2021 11:40PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

The media need to turn the screw, everyday we need to ask why we are falling behind? What is being done to correct course? When will course be corrected?

We're falling behind because we paused az, we are course correcting by unpausing az for 60+, course will be corrected when az is distributed.......

Elessar · 22-04-2021 11:45PM

Looks like most other EU countries have set the same age restrictions for J&J as they did AZ, which means NIAC will almost certainly follow suit.

So that's basically 600k highly effective single dose vaccines that are all but useless to us now, and the June 80% target will be missed, and I wouldn't hold out hope for July either.

ixoy · 22-04-2021 11:45PM

snotboogie wrote: »

Canada are at 29 doses per 100 we are at 25.5. They were far behind us last month and have been consistently hitting 0.6 to 0.8 per 100 vaccinated per day recently. Today we hit 0.4 per 100, which was our best day this week.

Little point comparing to Canada - different supply lines.

France, Germany, Spain and Italy have all had significant increases over the last two weeks and are constantly getting to about 0.5 per day.

They have, yes, but before that we were roughly the same and sometimes ahead of them. Allow for fluctuations a little - if the gap continues to widen further and further, then yes it'll be more disheartening.

JPup · 22-04-2021 11:47PM

Yeah. I mean the reasons we’re behind target this month are well known and are discussed to death every day on RTÉ. No offence, but the info is all out there.

Assuming the vaccine supply comes through as it’s supposed to over the next two months, we will catch up.

josip · 22-04-2021 11:58PM

Elessar wrote: »

Looks like most other EU countries have set the same age restrictions for J&J as they did AZ, which means NIAC will almost certainly follow suit.

So that's basically 600k highly effective single dose vaccines that are all but useless to us now, and the June 80% target will be missed, and I wouldn't hold out hope for July either.

Have you links for any of those countries?
I've only read about the Dutch who approved J&J for everyone.

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