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iamwhoiam · 22-04-2021 01:15PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Thanks, I’m just thinking when my mother registers.
The town land on her license is different to the one that come up when you put in our eircode. We literally moved a few feet.
Should this be an issue?

I doubt very much that will be an issue
They wont have time to look at such things I imagine .

titan18 · 22-04-2021 01:15PM

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

My appointment was for 3.30 yesterday afternoon at Aviva. Arrived 10 minutes early, about 300 people ahead of me.

The queue was outside on the footpath, then snaking through a car park area. Freezing cold. We edged our way along for an hour.

Next was inside. Queue in corridor, then up an escalator to queue in another corridor about the length of the rugby pitch. This queue turned back on itself. Very warm, no windows open. About 100 people in this corridor.

We then arrived at the registration area. A bit like the security queue at Dublin airport. Person on the other side of the rope beside you was on top of you. You had to register at a table type set up. Terrible bottleneck here. People beside you, walking past you. Many idiots with masks under their nose but not a word said to them.

After registration, back in to another queue, then up another escalator. Very long horse shoe type corridor here. Over 100 people ahead of me. Finally get to area where you get the jab. This section a bit disorganised with more bottleneck situations.

After the jab you make your way to a place where you sit for 15 minutes. Lots of staff and people milling about.

I felt safer in a supermarket.

It was tiring and uncomfortable. Got my jab about an hour and a half after my scheduled appointment.

That sounds pretty horrific. Like imagine if someone actually has covid there and spreads it cos of that. Hopefully they iron that out as that seems a ridiculous system.

Russman · 22-04-2021 01:25PM

J&J decision supposedly put back til next week......
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 01:29PM

Russman wrote: »

J&J decision supposedly put back til next week......
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0422/1211323-covid-ireland/

It looks like they are waiting on further talks with officials from other EU countries and see what they intend doing before rushing into a decision (which probably makes sense.....they could go in one direction with the vaccine only to find that most other EU states have gone off in another).

Turtwig · 22-04-2021 01:35PM

I suspect NIAC postponing is because the lack of data on which to base the decisions on. No European country has administered the vaccine. We're almost exclusively relying on the US where the situation is largely in flux. They only recently paused to make clinicians aware of the adverse event. It's possible now that awareness has grown more cases will be identified and a more accurate rate of incidence identified.

Mwengwe · 22-04-2021 01:44PM

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

Great to see. We need more posts like this. My sister got the same text this morning. One person at a time!

My parent is in Group 5 and hasn't been given an appointment, should I be contacting someone? I don't want to be hassling people but it's very frustrating seeing this.

Strazdas · 22-04-2021 01:45PM

Turtwig wrote: »

I suspect NIAC postponing is because the lack of data on which to base the decisions on. No European country has administered the vaccine. We're almost exclusively relying on the US where the situation is largely in flux. They only recently paused to make clinicians aware of the adverse event. It's possible now that awareness has grown more cases will be identified and a more accurate rate of incidence identified.

I guess another factor is that J & J deliveries have been low so far, given them a bit more time before they come to a decision on what to do.

freshpopcorn · 22-04-2021 01:45PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

My parent is in Group 4 and hasn't been given an appointment, should I be contacting someone? I don't want to be hassling people but it's very frustrating seeing this.

I’m in North Cork and our center is in Mallow and nobody has being called yet.(apparently)

Mwengwe · 22-04-2021 01:48PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I’m in North Cork and our center is in Mallow and nobody has being called yet.(apparently)

Ah right fair enough. It's more the feeling of guilt that I should be doing something more about it.

freshpopcorn · 22-04-2021 01:50PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Ah right fair enough. It's more the feeling of guilt that I should be doing something more about it.

A quick phone call wouldn’t really cause to much hassle for somebody.
Are others being called in your area?

Zipppy · 22-04-2021 02:01PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

My parent is in Group 5 and hasn't been given an appointment, should I be contacting someone? I don't want to be hassling people but it's very frustrating seeing this.

I'm group 4..had cancelled appointment last week..nought since.

Just spent ages on the HSE help line, trying different options..no one could assist as they are it appears only there to take registrations...complete waste of time..

Tyrone212 · 22-04-2021 02:04PM

No decision on J&J until next week.

22-04-2021 02:04PM

titan18 wrote: »

Hopefully they'll accept an expired passport, since I can't renew it.

An expired passport is a valid form of id, just not a valid travel document

Mwengwe · 22-04-2021 02:04PM

Zipppy wrote: »

I'm group 4..had cancelled appointment last week..nought since.

Just spent ages on the HSE help line, trying different options..no one could assist as they are it appears only there to take registrations...complete waste of time..

Was about to try the same thing so thanks for saving me the hassle.

PhilOssophy · 22-04-2021 02:06PM

OK so plan B on the queue front:
- Lines for each slot (i.e. 9:00, 9:15, 9:30, 9:45 and a 5th line for "those who just like standing around"). Show your text message to somebody supervising the queue.
- Queue changes every hour, i.e. the 9:00 becomes the 10:00, and so on.
- You queue based on your slot only.

The most ridiculous point yet is "oh the doctors secretary tells me to come early". This is not a meeting with your GP. This is a system which needs to run like clockwork otherwise the whole system is messed up for the whole day just because people can't wait their turn.

PhilOssophy · 22-04-2021 02:07PM

titan18 wrote: »

Hopefully they'll accept an expired passport, since I can't renew it.

Assure them that you are still the same person....

trellheim · 22-04-2021 02:16PM

may be up-thread but Vaccine deliveries update posted on the official govt portal https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/2b697-update-on-covid-19-vaccine-deliveries-21-april-2021/

Period Pfizer Moderna AstraZeneca Janssen Total
To end March 2021 737,100 109,200 340,800 1,187,100
April 2021
Week 14 2021 135,720 135,720
Week 15 2021 136,890 14,400 14,400* 165,690
Total 1,009,710 109,200 355,200 14,400 * 1,488,510

( these numbers have not been published last few weeks)

titan18 · 22-04-2021 02:20PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Assure them that you are still the same person....

Hopefully i can get a haircut before it then, as they mightn't be too sure otherwise :pac:

PhilOssophy · 22-04-2021 02:22PM

titan18 wrote: »

Hopefully i can get a haircut before it then, as they mightn't be too sure otherwise :pac:

Sure look, none of us look like our passport photo!

titan18 · 22-04-2021 02:24PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

OK so plan B on the queue front:
- Lines for each slot (i.e. 9:00, 9:15, 9:30, 9:45 and a 5th line for "those who just like standing around"). Show your text message to somebody supervising the queue.
- Queue changes every hour, i.e. the 9:00 becomes the 10:00, and so on.
- You queue based on your slot only.

The most ridiculous point yet is "oh the doctors secretary tells me to come early". This is not a meeting with your GP. This is a system which needs to run like clockwork otherwise the whole system is messed up for the whole day just because people can't wait their turn.

You might think that's ridiculous but when people's experience is that an appointment time for the HSE is worth nothing, it can't be a surprise when people turn up early cos they're expecting others too and cos there'll be queues. I mean, if you're hearing like on this thread of people queueing for an hour, most people are likely to just turn up early instead of the appointment time then.

trellheim · 22-04-2021 02:31PM

minister answering vaccination questions in the dail rn watch here https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireachtas-tv/dail-eireann-live/

Mwengwe · 22-04-2021 02:34PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

A quick phone call wouldn’t really cause to much hassle for somebody.
Are others being called in your area?

It's hard to know as I'm a bit of a hermit. I must ask my parent the same question though, good call.

PhilOssophy · 22-04-2021 02:41PM

titan18 wrote: »

You might think that's ridiculous but when people's experience is that an appointment time for the HSE is worth nothing, it can't be a surprise when people turn up early cos they're expecting others too and cos there'll be queues. I mean, if you're hearing like on this thread of people queueing for an hour, most people are likely to just turn up early instead of the appointment time then.

But in this case, an appointment time IS worth something. It is the only barrier to a completely chaotic vaccination system. Otherwise, sure why shouldn't I turn up at 8am and stand in the queue even though my appointment isn't until 4pm?

I get that an appointment with the HSE can run early/late but that's because a doctor might take more/less time. In this case, they should run like clockwork and people arriving early are just creating chaos.

tayto lover · 22-04-2021 02:41PM

Getting my first jab tomorrow. Delighted. It will be the AZ.
I just might have a few beers tomorrow night.

PhilOssophy · 22-04-2021 02:43PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Getting my first jab tomorrow. Delighted. It will be the AZ.
I just might have a few beers tomorrow night.

Good luck with it.

There was a show on on Tuesday night about your immune system. Apparently, your reaction to vaccine is significantly reduced if you prepare for it by not drinking for a day/two before, drink lots of water in the days before/after, etc.

But, sure where's the fun in that!

iamwhoiam · 22-04-2021 02:46PM

I am in City west and vaccinated at 14:30 !!
No queue outside , walked straight in and am sitting waiting in observation before I was even due in . Its so organised , so efficient and so calm .
Delighted !!

leahyl · 22-04-2021 02:48PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I am in City west and vaccinated at 14:30 !!
No queue outside , walked straight in and am sitting waiting in observation before I was even due in . Its so organised , so efficient and so calm .
Delighted !!

Great to hear

astrofool · 22-04-2021 02:49PM

PhilOssophy wrote: »

But in this case, an appointment time IS worth something. It is the only barrier to a completely chaotic vaccination system. Otherwise, sure why shouldn't I turn up at 8am and stand in the queue even though my appointment isn't until 4pm?

I get that an appointment with the HSE can run early/late but that's because a doctor might take more/less time. In this case, they should run like clockwork and people arriving early are just creating chaos.

I don't think anyone is going to have any luck in telling people not to turn up early. Just go and be prepared to stand around for a bit. At citywest (second hand) it was quiet from 12-2, busy at 3pm and then no queue again at 4pm.

ACitizenErased · 22-04-2021 02:51PM

Donnelly just said in the Dail that the European Commission have commenced legal proceedings against AstraZeneca over the delivery shortages and that Ireland would be joining the case

stephenjmcd · 22-04-2021 03:00PM

Latest from the HSE briefing

https://twitter.com/michellehtweet/status/1385230043656359941?s=20

https://twitter.com/PriscillaLynch/status/1385230596331515909?s=20

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