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    #2
    Patser
    Registered Users Posts: 7,871 ✭✭✭Patser


    It's a CHR, that's been slightly squared off.

    Love the look of the steering wheel, would look great in a Tornado fighter jet, no way on earth it survives to production.

    I just hope it stops the 'self charging hybrid' nonsense.



    Wife has a CHR, surprisingly nice car to drive, but dark in back. So if Toyota bring their production quality to BEVs, it should be good


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    #3
    Syrinx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭Syrinx


    Patser wrote: »

    I just hope it stops the 'self charging hybrid' nonsense.

    Looks like they'll be using a solar panel for that (I can't post links).


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    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,363 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    looks like the lexus BEV
    Probably uses chademo too!


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    JPup
    Registered Users Posts: 909 ✭✭✭JPup


    Patser wrote: »
    It's a CHR, that's been slightly squared off.

    Love the look of the steering wheel, would look great in a Tornado fighter jet, no way on earth it survives to production.

    I just hope it stops the 'self charging hybrid' nonsense.



    Wife has a CHR, surprisingly nice car to drive, but dark in back. So if Toyota bring their production quality to BEVs, it should be good

    I think it’s RAV4 size rather than CHR


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    Orebro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Orebro


    Not sure I'm comfortable with this drive by wire stuff - much more comfortable with the mechanical connection to the steering, it's kind of a critical part you don't want failing due to an electronic component going pop!


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    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Orebro wrote: »
    Not sure I'm comfortable with this drive by wire stuff - much more comfortable with the mechanical connection to the steering, it's kind of a critical part you don't want failing due to an electronic component going pop!

    Best not drive any car built in the last 10 years so


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    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    ELM327 wrote: »
    looks like the lexus BEV
    Probably uses chademo too!

    Is chademo the type that's being phased out?


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    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,363 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes. It's only on the Leaf now, which is being replaced by the Ariya on CCS. And the lexus UX.

    CCS is the EU standard.


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    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    ELM327 wrote: »
    CCS is the EU standard.

    I was hoping the system on the Lexus would be changed for future models. That's a great pity. I'm very eager to go electric next once work settles down and I know how much driving I'm doing.


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    Orebro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭Orebro


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Best not drive any car built in the last 10 years so

    Cars built in the last 10 years don't have steering columns?


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    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,990 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    What is it about a lot of these BEVs, that they have a big flat blank 'wall' for a nose?
    It was understandable on ICE cars, as it needed to accomodate a radiator grill, but why on these BEVs?
    That Toyota looks particularly gruesome!


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    Redfox25
    Registered Users Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    I wonder what the price will be like as it looks interesting alright.
    Steering wheel wont make it into the EU i doubt but its great to see another new EV coming our way.


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    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,397 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I cannot imagine the production model having the sort of ground clearance as portrayed in the concept. If so, surely interior would be cramped, unless they aren't using a skateboard design.


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    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Orebro wrote: »
    Cars built in the last 10 years don't have steering columns?

    A lot of "fly by wire" in one shape or another which is what you said although I appreciate you referenced specifically steering. I was thinking other systems.


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    AMKC
    Registered Users Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I think it looks great. Looks like a better looking version of the Rav-4 which is a very classy good looking car anyway.
    I agree the steering wheel will not make it but the rest inside looks great.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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    forestgirl
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭forestgirl


    If that the future of motoring I want no part in it


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    #18
    AMKC
    Registered Users Posts: 15,557 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    forestgirl wrote: »
    If that the future of motoring I want no part in it

    @ Forestgirl Sure you stick to your dirty old VWs

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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    forestgirl
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭forestgirl


    I'd be more than happy to 😊


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    rizwansupra
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭rizwansupra


    I Ordered my New electric vehicle Toyota BZ4X with order number Q-000496867 RIZWAN HAFEEZ, i had been waiting for my order nearly 1 year, got a call early this week that car is arriving on 15th Nov so i can come and view the car , I went there yesterday 17th Nov 2022 4:00 pm to view the car, car was shown to me by staff named Mr. Robert Douglas, he has shown zero interest in showing and explaining about the car to me neglecting many of my questions looks like he did not want to sell the car to me at all, after spending about half an hour to view the car on my own , i told Mr. Robert that i would ring him by tomorrow before 2pm after discussing with my wife to arrange payments. He insisted me that i must confirm him now if i am paying for this car now otherwise he can not guarantee of this car. i was surprised to see his behaviour that i had been waiting for this car nearly 1 year and 4 times they gave me date of arrival but never arrived and here he can't even wait for me to finalize things on my end for even 20 hours. I requested him let me get home and talk with my Mrs and arrange payment then i will come back tomorrow before 2pm and i left the garage. Same day i rang Mr.Robert 5:33 pm with in 1 hour of my leaving of the garage , i requested him to send me final invoice for the vehicle with account details so that i arrange payment. I got a shocking reply from Mr. Robert starting with a laugh and he told me that car is sold , i asked him that it is not even 1 hours since i left and i requested for time till 2pm tomorrow and he replied me that he cant help me in this matter at all , he asked me to provide my card details for refund which i refused to take refund as i told him i will fight for this case to every forum till i get justice on this matter

    This was shocking behaviour of any staff member from such good reputation garage was a horrible experience of my life..

    I would raise this matter to every forum and to toyota head office and wont take refund back till this whole matter sorted out in a proper manners



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    rizwansupra
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭rizwansupra


    I Ordered my New electric vehicle Toyota BZ4X with order number <<SNIP>>, i had been waiting for my order nearly 1 year, got a call early this week that car is arriving on 15th Nov so i can come and view the car , I went there yesterday 17th Nov 2022 4:00 pm to view the car, car was shown to me by staff <<SNIP>>, he has shown zero interest in showing and explaining about the car to me neglecting many of my questions looks like he did not want to sell the car to me at all, after spending about half an hour to view the car on my own , i told him that i would ring him by tomorrow before 2pm after discussing with my wife to arrange payments. He insisted me that i must confirm him now if i am paying for this car now otherwise he can not guarantee of this car. i was surprised to see his behaviour that i had been waiting for this car nearly 1 year and 4 times they gave me date of arrival but never arrived and here he can't even wait for me to finalize things on my end for even 20 hours. I requested him let me get home and talk with my Mrs and arrange payment then i will come back tomorrow before 2pm and i left the garage. Same day i rang 5:33 pm with in 1 hour of my leaving of the garage , i requested him to send me final invoice for the vehicle with account details so that i arrange payment. I got a shocking reply from him starting with a laugh and he told me that car is sold , i asked him that it is not even 1 hours since i left and i requested for time till 2pm tomorrow and he replied me that he cant help me in this matter at all , he asked me to provide my card details for refund which i refused to take refund as i told him i will fight for this case to every forum till i get justice on this matter

    This was shocking behaviour of any staff member from such good reputation garage was a horrible experience of my life..

    I would raise this matter to every forum and to toyota head office and wont take refund back till this whole matter sorted out in a proper manners

    Mod Note: Removed individual info

    Post edited by liamog on


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    #22
    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Mod Note: Quote removed to address individuals info

    You got a luck escape, get your deposit back and buy something decent. The reviews of them are terrible.

    Post edited by liamog on


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    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,822 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I don't think this is the right thread for this, but anyway here's my thoughts

    Just to confirm, you had ordered the car, paid a deposit and then when you asked for a few hours to arrange payment they sold your car?

    Out of curiosity, was your response along the lines of "I don't know if I want the car" or more like "I want the car, it will take me a while to arrange payment"?

    I get the impression it was the second one but just wanted to be sure

    In either case, it's pretty poor behaviour. My guess is that the salesman knew he could sell the car for more than you were paying so he essentially forced you into a situation where you "refused" payment when requested and as such you forfeited your reservation

    It's a horrible way to treat customers, but demand for EVs are so strong that salesperson can literally slap their customers in the face and expect a thank you when the keys are handed over

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    Miscreant
    Registered Users Posts: 2,197 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    @rizwansupra I understand you are annoyed at this, but I would be inclined to remove any identifiable information from your post instead of splattering all your details and that of the dealer/salesman all over the internet. If the whole interaction went down in the way you have described, it is indeed a disgrace and something that Toyota Ireland and the owner of the dealership should be informed about.

    If this whole thing were to go the legal route, you have no idea what the consequences of posting identifiable information on the internet may be.

    Just my two cents, I am not a lawyer.



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    #25
    Casati
    Registered Users Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Casati


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119889387#Comment_119889387

    Is that Crossings Naas?



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    carsfan2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119890229#Comment_119890229

    A quick google of the sales man’s name would indicate that is correct.



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    #27
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    ..

    5B418D13-B7F6-48B2-B35B-4B706389C865.jpeg




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    eagerv
    Registered Users Posts: 4,397 ✭✭✭eagerv


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119896648#Comment_119896648

    Car looks smart but I think the black funny shapes on front looks a bit odd. Probably one of the few cars I would pick a dark colour..😊



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    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119896687#Comment_119896687

    Same here. The large plastic panels over the wheels look off to me on the lighter colours.



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    Miscreant
    Registered Users Posts: 2,197 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Saw one is these this morning near the Square in Tallaght. It is smaller than I expected and looks to be only a little larger than the C-HR.



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    Fingleberries
    Registered Users Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Saw one of these mythical creatures out in the wild at the weekend - they do exist 😁 and are in the hands of customers. Only got to take a nosey as I walked around one parked on the street.

    The looks are very polarising (like marmite-level polarising). I can't say I like it - the plastic trim outside, the styling and shape just don't sit well with me for an expensive enough EV. I saw one in white.

    For a similar size car I prefer the looks of EV6 and even the ioniq 5 (although I'm only 50:50 on the looks of the ioniq).



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