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Derek Chauvin murder trial (George Floyd)

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  • #1412
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,328 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Overheal wrote: »
    Derek Chauvin Defense Witness Is Being Sued in Another State for Allegedly Covering Up Black Teen’s Death in Police Custody

    https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/george-floyd-death/derek-chauvin-defense-witness-is-being-sued-in-another-state-for-allegedly-covering-up-black-teens-death-in-police-custody/?utm_source=mostpopular&fbclid=IwAR2HJmdoctJmKwX98k14r1TMC61-GurIjPUX7zSeTYwliIsNxV_tvhJS_vo

    I wonder how much of that the jury will hear about this.

    Are they being sequestered?


  • #1413
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Are they being sequestered?

    Not before deliberations no but as always are instructed to avoid media coverage.

    Even if they learned of it, he stands accused only.


  • #1414
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Are they being sequestered?

    yes but not until monday.


  • #1415
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    penny piper wrote: »
    What's your opinion?

    They asked the question first, so it's fair that you should answer first..


  • #1416
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    penny piper wrote: »
    What's your opinion?

    Uhmmm

    What!!!!

    We've interacted a few times on things, I think you know my opinions.. You can't answer a simple question, which would be your opinion, it wouldn't change your overall stance of feeling the need to give chauvin the benefit of the doubt, you understand that right!!


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  • #1417
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They asked the question first, so it's fair that you should answer first..

    It's probably fair ...yes....but I'd like their opinion first.


  • #1418
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    Uhmmm

    What!!!!

    We've interacted a few times on things, I think you know my opinions.. You can't answer a simple question, which would be your opinion, it wouldn't change your overall stance of feeling the need to give chauvin the benefit of the doubt, you understand that right!!

    I think you have it wrong.... I can see opinions from both sides....


  • #1419
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    penny piper wrote: »
    I think you have it wrong.... I can see opinions from both sides....
    It's pretty clear that you're heavily biased... You've been desperate for a mistrial for the entire week because of how atrociously the case has been going.


  • #1420
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Are they being sequestered?

    Yes but there’s no empty hotels rooms. Booking system is paused. Oh wait that’s Ireland.


  • #1421
    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    penny piper wrote: »
    I think you have it wrong.... I can see opinions from both sides....

    You've suddenly lost your opinion on things?

    You've posted many times and at the ends of them was "in your opinion" I ask a simple and direct question and you go dodging it.

    ?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2Fjlaw-whtvr.gif&f=1&nofb=1

    here's my opinion, a response to you maybe you forgot it. Seeing things from both sides i think..

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=116899966&postcount=1346


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  • #1422
    Arely Jolly Bed
    Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Arely Jolly Bed


    Overheal wrote: »
    Pat f'n Roberts says among other things, Chauvin needs to be put 'under jail' for the killing of George Floyd.

    Every 18 months or so Pat let's his humanity out for a bit of fresh air.


  • #1423
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's pretty clear that you're heavily biased... You've been desperate for a mistrial for the entire week because of how atrociously the case has been going.

    I don't know where you get that from.... I actually think you are very biased and make that very plain by what you post.... in saying that you have your opinion and i have mine....
    I go with what dr.fowler said.... main cause heart condition...blocked arteries...drugs..neck restraint. etc.
    I also believe that in no way did chauvan/the other officers have any intent of wrongdoing with mr.floyd..
    and I think alot of people on here didn't also listen to all evidence dr.tobin gave either....yet seem to think they have......
    I don't even think the autopsy result should have been homicide... I think it should have been undetermined... happy now ?????


  • #1424
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,678 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I don't think anyone thinks Chauvins intent was to kill him. No part of the prosecution's case has even hinted at that from what I know. The main point of the case is that Chauvin's actions were intentional, and the case largely hinges on whether they resulted in Floyd's death or not.


  • #1425
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    There is a lot of misinformation about George's history
    George did not pistol whip a pregant woman
    He only held a pistol to her tummy
    It was in fact his mate who pistol whipped her
    George only held a gun to her tummy


  • #1426
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    There is a lot of misinformation about George's history
    George did not pistol whip a pregant woman
    He only held a pistol to her tummy
    It was in fact his mate who pistol whipped her
    George only held a gun to her tummy

    Do you have evidence she was even pregnant? Just curious.


  • #1427
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    There is a lot of misinformation about George's history
    George did not pistol whip a pregant woman
    He only held a pistol to her tummy
    It was in fact his mate who pistol whipped her
    George only held a gun to her tummy

    I sense a note of po-faced sarcasm...

    In any case, there's no doubt that George Floyd had a criminal past, and did time in prison for things he'd done. On the other hand, he'd also been trying to reform himself, which seems to count for nothing in the eyes of those who want to insinuate that because he'd committed crimes in the past, he required this extra uncompromising restraint. So, while Floyd may have been a deeply flawed human, he was still entitled to a bit of humane treatment in the case that he was no longer an imminent threat to the lives of the arresting officers and bystanders, i.e. handcuffed and face down on the pavement.


  • #1428
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    briany wrote: »
    I sense a note of po-faced sarcasm...

    In any case, there's no doubt that George Floyd had a criminal past, and did time in prison for things he'd done. On the other hand, he'd also been trying to reform himself, which seems to count for nothing in the eyes of those who want to insinuate that because he'd committed crimes in the past, he required this extra uncompromising restraint. So, while Floyd may have been a deeply flawed human, he was still entitled to a bit of humane treatment in the case that he was no longer an imminent threat to the lives of the arresting officers and bystanders, i.e. handcuffed and face down on the pavement.

    Exactly my point
    George never pistolwhipped that lady
    He merely put the gun to her belly
    It was another member of the home raiding gang who cracked her skull open with his pistol


  • #1429
    penny piper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭penny piper


    briany wrote: »
    I sense a note of po-faced sarcasm...

    In any case, there's no doubt that George Floyd had a criminal past, and did time in prison for things he'd done. On the other hand, he'd also been trying to reform himself, which seems to count for nothing in the eyes of those who want to insinuate that because he'd committed crimes in the past, he required this extra uncompromising restraint. So, while Floyd may have been a deeply flawed human, he was still entitled to a bit of humane treatment in the case that he was no longer an imminent threat to the lives of the arresting officers and bystanders, i.e. handcuffed and face down on the pavement.

    just out of curiousity how do you know he was trying to reform himself???

    It didn't look that way to me.... :confused: wasn't he with a guy who was
    dealing drugs/passing counterfeit money?? hardly call that reform.

    How would you have handled the situation?


  • #1430
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    Exactly my point
    George never pistolwhipped that lady
    He merely put the gun to her belly
    It was another member of the home raiding gang who cracked her skull open with his pistol

    Correct. He pleaded guilty to that in 2009. He was not charged with assault or kidnapping as others would have suggested.

    It also has no relevancy to the incident in 2020. If the cops arrest a suspect who has a criminal history, no matter how long, that suspect is still innocent until proven guilty with regard to the arresting offense.


  • #1431
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    penny piper wrote: »
    just out of curiousity how do you know he was trying to reform himself???

    It didn't look that way to me.... :confused:wasn't he with a guy who was
    dealing drugs/passing counterfeit money?    ? hardly call that reform.

    How would you have handled the situation?

    Guilt by association?

    I also don't think anyone has proven any guilt there.


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  • #1432
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    Overheal wrote: »
    Correct. He pleaded guilty to that in 2009. He was not charged with assault or kidnapping as others would have suggested.

    It also has no relevancy to the incident in 2020. If the cops arrest a suspect who has a criminal history, no matter how long, that suspect is still innocent until proven guilty with regard to the arresting offense.
    Agreed
    George served his time for that offence

    Re the trial I have watched most of it and Inn my belief Mr chauvinism is gong to prison for 5 -10


  • #1433
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    Agreed
    George served his time for that offence

    Re the trial I have watched most of it and Inn my belief Mr chauvinism is gong to prison for 5 -10

    *chauvin


  • #1434
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    penny piper wrote: »
    just out of curiousity how do you know he was trying to reform himself???

    It didn't look that way to me.... :confused: wasn't he with a guy who was
    dealing drugs/passing counterfeit money?? hardly call that reform.

    How would you have handled the situation?

    George didn't try to pas countretfit money
    He got that fake money from mr Hall


  • #1435
    Vestiapx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    Exactly my point
    George never pistolwhipped that lady
    He merely put the gun to her belly
    It was another member of the home raiding gang who cracked her skull open with his pistol

    Sorry but you are saying that he put a gun to a woman's belly, that's a strange thing to do why would he do that ?


  • #1436
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    Vestiapx wrote: »
    Sorry but you are saying that he put a gun to a woman's belly, that's a strange thing to do why would he do that ?

    *why would he do that

    To get her money and drugs
    *but that was not the aim of Mr floyd
    It was the aim of the gang


  • #1437
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Vestiapx wrote: »
    Sorry but you are saying that he put a gun to a woman's belly, that's a strange thing to do why would he do that ?

    "In August 2007, Floyd was arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. Investigators said he and five other men barged into a woman’s apartment, and Floyd pushed a pistol into her abdomen before searching for items to steal. Floyd pleaded guilty in 2009 and was sentenced to five years in prison. By the time he was paroled, in January 2013, he was nearing 40."


  • #1438
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    Overheal wrote: »
    "In August 2007, Floyd was arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. Investigators said he and five other men barged into a woman’s apartment, and Floyd pushed a pistol into her abdomen before searching for items to steal. Floyd pleaded guilty in 2009 and was sentenced to five years in prison. By the time he was paroled, in January 2013, he was nearing 40."


    *2oo7
    24 years ago
    Irrelevant to this case


  • #1439
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    *2oo7
    24 years ago
    Irrelevant to this case

    *14


  • #1440
    Vestiapx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    Laurenf35 wrote: »
    *why would he do that

    To get her money and drugs
    *but that was not the aim of Mr floyd
    It was the aim of the gang

    What was his aim ?


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  • #1441
    Laurenf35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Laurenf35


    Overheal wrote: »
    *14
    14/24 whatever


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