Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

titan18 wrote: »

He's the Taoiseach. If he asks for a particular one, he'll get a particular one tbf.

No, that's not how it works. And if it did work like that, it wouldn't be a bit fair.

titan18 wrote: »

He's the Taoiseach. If he asks for a particular one, he'll get a particular one tbf.

He'd be out on his ear in 5 minutes if he tried that on. He won't of course he's not stupid.

He should be shown on TV getting the AZ vaccine , no excuses, that's his cohort.

Hurrache wrote: »

No, that's not how it works. And if it did work like that, it wouldn't be a bit fair.

Just be added to golfgate, beacon hospital teachers, coombe kids etc. I don't trust him at all so I could easily see it happening. Imo, it would help to assure those skeptical of the AZ vaccine for him to do it imo. We don't have a sizable anti vax population but I think there'll be a fair few anti AZ people so it would help imo.

I mean he was hoping to go the US and get vaccinated for Patricks Day, so him getting a particular one wouldn't be out of character for him imo.

morebarn wrote: »

My husband is a few months older and yesterday received his second Pffizer vaccine. Obviously we are delighted; but really this arbitrary cut off that at 70 he can’t have Astra and yet I am ok to get it, doesn’t sit well with me.

Over 70's CAN get AZ, when the rollout started there wasn't enough data about AZ efficacy for that age group so they decided to use only mRNA vaccines. They did later update the info to say AZ could be given to over-70s, but at that point the rollout was in progress and for logistical reasons they decided not to change the process.

morebarn wrote: »

I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and as a result I use a Biological injection so my immune system is very compromised.
But my GP is cutting off vaccines at 70 so I have no guarantee there. On his Facebook page he recommended all younger patients to use online registration.
On inquiring from the practice nurse I was told that in May they will be doing Group 4 and Group 7. All at high risk and very high risk. As she said”looking into a crystal ball” she couldn’t reassure me that I would be called. But there was also a chance my Consultant might call me.

According to this link, there is no evidence that Biologics put you at higher risk for Covid - https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coron...ne-system.html

The definitions of cohort 4 and 7 are too vague when it comes to immunosuppression and it seems to be varying between different consultants whether they are putting people forward for those cohorts or not. St. James Rheumatology dept told me they are only putting people on Rituximab on the list.

If you're in the age group that can get AZ soon, then you should go for it.

PMBC wrote: »

Just registered. Had to wait 3 minutes as 900 odd were ahead of me at 10.03. Registration screen appeared at 10.06 so very short wait and completed in a few minutes; relatively easy and *seemed glitch free
*I have a problem with my Caps lock and I think the system continued to display 'Caps lock on' when I was on lower case. However I got it eventually.

Simon Coveney quoted today as saying no urgency in registering and registering quickly won't mean a quicker vaccination date - but I assume if register as a 69 year old today you will get a vaccination date ahead of a 68 year old who registers when it opens to that age?

Some interesting observations in this pre-print about vaccination in convalescents:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.11.21255153v1.full.pdf+html

From the abstract:

SARS-CoV-2 infection also led to increased numbers of double negative B memory cells, which are described as a dysfunctional B cell subset. This effect was reversed by SARS-CoV-2 vaccination, providing a potential mechanistic explanation for the vaccination-induced reduction in symptoms in patients with “Long-COVID”.

Those rogue B cells are a source of antibodies that can attack the host itself (auto-antibodies) leading to autoimmune disorders.

Hmmzis wrote: »

Some interesting observations in this pre-print about vaccination in convalescents:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.11.21255153v1.full.pdf+html

From the abstract:



Those rogue B cells are a source of antibodies that can attack the host itself (auto-antibodies) leading to autoimmune disorders.

Only read this paper this morning myself. Really interesting stuff in the context of the COVID19 sequelae we're seeing.

I seem to have gotten a bit of stick for something I posted a few hours ago (#1166). For example:

Are you sure you've got absolutely every negative point you can think of in there? Most 60-69 are far from feeble and well able to do things for themselves. There's also no pressure on them to do it on the date they can book.

I never implied over 60s were "feeble" and appreciate that most of them can easily cope with online registration. However the huge public interest in getting vaccination to as near 100% as possible motivated my concern. I have come across people who are not feeble either in mind or body, but who do not get on-line regularly. People on Boards are not necessarily representative of everyone.

Whinging? I've been accused of this. Asking a few critical questions is not whinging. And I have a certain scepticism of the organisational capabilities of the HSE.

lukas8888 wrote: »

Many thanks for pointing out my lack of system knowledge,The chance of overload i would think is almost nil judging by the amount of people in the queue.
I logged on and off a few times since and every time instant access.I still predict there will be very low uptake,time will tell.

In the first hour, 9.5k registered. I don't see this as low at all. Plus, a % of that age bracket may have already been vaccinated too with the higher incidence of pre-existing conditions making them even more vulnerable.

3mom4 wrote: »

Does anyone know of any GPs who are actually vaccinating cohort 4 at the moment or plan to do so?

I am beyond frustrated at being ignored by my GP's practice at the moment and completely unsure of what to do Thinking I need to find a new one but wondering if this is the case with all surgeries?

My husband got the call this morning from his GP, he's 50 with type 2 diabetes and he'll be vaccinated first dose of Pfizer end of next week. We're in Wicklow.
I am so relieved

3mom4 wrote: »

Does anyone know of any GPs who are actually vaccinating cohort 4 at the moment or plan to do so?

I am beyond frustrated at being ignored by my GP's practice at the moment and completely unsure of what to do Thinking I need to find a new one but wondering if this is the case with all surgeries?

Yeah mine has just started, they're currently fitting them in around over-70s, using them as backup lists for end of day leftovers etc. They expect to be finished first doses for over-70s in the next week and will then concentrate on cohort 4 alongside the second doses for the older age groups.

Some GPs are still a few weeks behind on cohort 3, either from lack of supply or other internal issues. Also, some GPs are not signing up to vaccinate cohort 4 or 7.

HSE Briefing/Reid:

18,000 69 year olds registered by lunch time. 95% via web, 5% via phone.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1382684289150681091

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1382685276506574848

https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1382685435621748740