Corruption in charities

Tar.Aldarion · 13-04-2021 04:01PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

So that's a no then, you/they haven't run the numbers of every Irish charity.

Are you certain that no Irish charity, maybe SVP,can beat or match the 17% off the top costs for cash distribution, as seen with one of their recommended charities?

I have run the numbers on no charity, I am not the professional charity evaluator, they are.
That is also only one facet of many of being an effective charity.

SVP are already behind with just a skim of their page but I'm sure Givewell will have evaluated one of the biggest charities already and could give a good answer if asked:

Donations that are given locally are spent locally.

Bellbottoms · 13-04-2021 06:14PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Bunny Carr.

I have.no idea who Bunny Carr is. And I suspect I am not alone. Any chance of some context?

Or some commentry on it?

dublin49 · 13-04-2021 06:27PM

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I have.no idea who Bunny Carr is. And I suspect I am not alone. Any chance of some context?

Or some commentry on it?

he fronted a popular quiz show back in late 60s early 70s and also set up Carr communiciations that provided training for people in the media including politicans,he fronted a charity drive and his voice over on the appeal was was along the the lines of "send your money to me Bunny Carr c/o xxxx Charity " on foot of that there were allegations that maybe people took him literally and sent their donations directly to him.I think it all stemmed from the catchphrase ,send your money to me....

AndrewJRenko · 13-04-2021 06:29PM

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I have.no idea who Bunny Carr is. And I suspect I am not alone. Any chance of some context?

Or some commentry on it?

Addressed in the article I linked above

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/mr-charm-school-1.85444?mode=amp

He's spreading lies and innuendo about a dead man.

Viscount Aggro · 13-04-2021 06:57PM

I would deal with charities the Michael O'Leary way...

Go in and cut everything by half. Replace all the senior executives, and board members
with voluntary people. I know loads of retired people who would do this.
I could do it, and I have street creds too.

Everything else would get outsourced, maximise the funds going to the actual cause.

AndrewJRenko · 13-04-2021 09:39PM

Serious concerns emerging from the investigation at Bothar

https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/investigation-found-ex-bothar-ceo-paid-himself-8000-extra-in-2018-and-2019-40307173.html

AndrewJRenko · 13-04-2021 09:42PM

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

I would deal with charities the Michael O'Leary way...

Go in and cut everything by half. Replace all the senior executives, and board members
with voluntary people. I know loads of retired people who would do this.
I could do it, and I have street creds too.

Everything else would get outsourced, maximise the funds going to the actual cause.

All board members are volunteers. Who exactly are these senior executives waiting to take on stressful, demanding full time roles with significant personal exposure as volunteers?

Outsourcing tends not to work well in homeless services, disability services.

corner of hells · 13-04-2021 10:12PM

Viscount Aggro wrote: »

I would deal with charities the Michael O'Leary way...

Go in and cut everything by half. Replace all the senior executives, and board members
with voluntary people. I know loads of retired people who would do this.
I could do it, and I have street creds too.

Everything else would get outsourced, maximise the funds going to the actual cause.

Outsource what exactly?

humberklog · 13-04-2021 10:55PM

Bellbottoms wrote: »

I have.no idea who Bunny Carr is. And I suspect I am not alone. Any chance of some context?

Or some commentry on it?

Ah stop the lights!

dublin49 · 13-04-2021 11:03PM

humberklog wrote: »

Ah stop the lights!

old timer time for your horlicks

anewme · 14-04-2021 07:11AM

humberklog wrote: »

Ah stop the lights!

Not to mention Norman's musical clues.

Floppybits · 19-04-2021 02:37PM

The Former Bothar CEO has been found dead at his home. Tragic all round.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40269752.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

gmisk · 02-06-2021 02:28PM

Former Bóthar CEO seeks free legal aid for misappropriated funds court case https://jrnl.ie/5455590

Absolutely zero shame

13-08-2021 05:26PM

Not many details but ICHH might be the next charity in a bit of bother.

"In recent days, serious matters have come to the attention of the board. "

https://ichh.ie/statement-by-the-board-of-inner-city-helping-homeless/

Rket4000 · 13-08-2021 07:01PM

They've hired an independent senior counsel? Who's paying for that?

LollipopJimmy · 13-08-2021 07:20PM

Anthony Flynn has made his twitter private, must not want to deal with any questions and an event they had planned for tonight is cancelled.

Spanish Eyes · 13-08-2021 07:28PM

All this internal investigation and SC involvement has to stop. Damage limitation I suppose.

First stop = Gardai, let them investigate any breach of the law, end of story.

Agis_IV · 13-08-2021 07:35PM

Saintly do gooders rarely do good, as true in Irish charities as it is in Irish politics. Help your neighbors and your community. Apollo House etc are effectively a grift. A 411 scam for gullible strivers who more concerned with social media karma than helping a person, family or community down on its luck.

lawred2 · 13-08-2021 07:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116872873#Comment_116872873

... Ooops misread

Big Gerry · 13-08-2021 07:44PM

There is no need for people running charities to be corrupt when they get massive 6 figure salaries.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/6473057/charities-staff-value-study-ceo-salary/

Spanish Eyes · 13-08-2021 07:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117749257#Comment_117749257

We don't know if the suspended employee was involved in fraud, it could be other things.

enricoh · 13-08-2021 08:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117748709#Comment_117748709

The other 99 homeless charities will be able to pick up the slack- fear not!

Faugheen · 13-08-2021 08:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117749203#Comment_117749203

They are

13-08-2021 08:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117749177#Comment_117749177

Thats unusual. Him and David Hall are running it so I'd expect to hear from him soon enough.

Flynn is normally fearless at calling out the bs of others and saying what needs to be done.

13-08-2021 08:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117749108#Comment_117749108

Probably the charity. I suppose when you find yourself in a hole it's best to get good advice on how to get out.

Spanish Eyes · 13-08-2021 08:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117749396#Comment_117749396

Good. I didn't see any reference to the Gardai in the initial reports, but you are right, the Gardai are involved.

Darc19 · 13-08-2021 08:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117749108#Comment_117749108

Most likely it will be free.

Plenty of senior counsel will do pro bono work. - it's good for referrals / good pr.

Whilst it's a high profile charity, income is fairly small and most work seems to be voluntary.

I suspect David hall is seething over this as he would have very high standards.

dublin49 · 13-08-2021 10:36PM

if you give money to strangers without strings and little or no validation on the basis they use it wisely don't be too surprised if their interpretation of that instruction is different from your own.

14-08-2021 08:55PM

Corruption in charities is not always about the charity itself.

Celebrities, such as Jimmy Saville, use charity as a means to boost their public relations profile. You end up with a system where people end up getting away with inappropriate activity because many in the celebrity sphere are too scared to challenge someone who is associated with so much charity.

That, in itself, is a distorted version of corruption very much linked to charity.

AndrewJRenko · 14-08-2021 09:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117755098#Comment_117755098

You're comparing different times rather than different sectors. Saville and others were back in the 80s and 90s. All charities involved with children work with painfully stringent rules about not being alone with children and garda vetting and more.

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