Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

Nasty to sneak this in on a Friday night. Appalling time for so many Irish people abroad.

fly_agaric wrote: »

I don't disagree that they need more hotels if they add more countries (and maybe would need a waiting list), but would say there's very few flying about on "business trips" at the moment.
Most of the "business tripper" types are huddled up working from home.
The only workers flying for business are people who really need to do it/absolutely critical staff who are going to a location for something a bit more important and of longer duration than a trip.
They will quarantine if they have to IMO, they would likely have been following such procedures and doing it themselves anyway as companies probably don't want hassle of their travelling staff spreading Covid between different locations and getting sites shut down with an outbreak.

Two years ago I was working in a company doing software for hospitals. When the hospitals were switching software (or moving from paper to software) I had to travel in France to work on site for a weekend. The need does not disappear because Ireland decided to park people in hotels.

So if I was still working there, I would have to live 2weeks in an hotel because there is a business need. Don't believe that employers will cancel a contract for their employee's confort. They will pay the hotel, but they will let their employees rot 2weeks there for free.

Life does not stop because of the hotels. It is just a major discomfort for no gain at all.

faceman wrote: »

Knowing Donnelly they probably have to be tested before they use the fire escape

'Break Glass for Test'

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone travelling now should expect the unexpected in fairness.

Also, why are they travelling.

Seriously? There are a variety of reasons people need to travel other than to go on a piss up in Santa Ponsa like some people think.

Work, family needs , deaths and sickness of friends, etc

Israel removed

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1380592783090716677

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone travelling now should expect the unexpected in fairness.

Also, why are they travelling.

I am going to get married in France in 2weeks. Am I still allowed to have a life event or should there be a popular vote that controls if it is good reason?

So I should have expected the unexpected? What does it mean? That I should be happy to pay 2grands to live in an hotel 1km from my apartment? Again this mentality of "we know it is crap but as long as I am not concerned, it is good enough"

This whole MHQ thing just shows how little logic and statistics are used in our decision making. It also shows how fragile our civil liberties are. Much of our economy is fed by foreign multinationals, a US exec that is vaccinated will not travel here and will just see Ireland closed for business. And for what, this will make no difference to cases deaths etc. It is just stupid.

If we want to try zero covid or zero new variants then we need to seal borders, increase lockdown etc. No one thinks that is realistic any more. So what are we at with this!! Just burning down an economy we spent 40 years building because we realised we wanted better for ourselves in the late 80s. DeValera with his horsemen of poverty, isolation, state control and emigration rides again.

normanoffside wrote: »

Israel removed

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1380592783090716677

Is that a joke, are certain diplomats or workers returning from that second list of nations next week or what? Seem bizarre.

Germany removed Israel off its list last night, appears you can travel Israel - Germany now freely without any test or quarantine

saabsaab wrote: »

A large new covid wave especially new variants will do just that anyway. It needs to continue for a while yet.

Dramatic uneducated tripe like this is a bigger problem than the virus.

Tazz T wrote: »

Dramatic uneducated tripe like this is a bigger problem than the virus.

Professor Kingston Mills. Heard of him?

Of course I have. I have a degree in immunology myself and spent half my life as a medical writer.

Point?

@saabsaab

If I see the words 'Kingston Mills' on here again, the 13 keys on some posters keyboards must be worn out from typing it.

Tazz T wrote: »

Of course I have. I have a degree in immunology myself and spent half my life as a medical writer.

Point?

@saabsaab

This is a new virus and we already have a SA variant that is less responsive to the vaccine, whatever he said.



The point is we don't need another variant or wave. No good reason to open up before there is a full roll out. Remember Christmas.

So the impossible to measure 'variant of concern' is the reason countries are added to the MHQ list!

How they measuring this! Mad TED!