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ButtersSuki · 07-04-2021 03:52PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

My daughter works in retail are there is one minority that gives 90% of the trouble in the shop

Northsiders?

:pac:

07-04-2021 03:56PM

golondrinas wrote: »

I’m surprised at you, being a medical expert an all. It’s well noised abroad that doctor’s recommend flat water over sparkling. Methinks it what’s in the bubbles.Not good for the tummy, apparently.

Auld bit of carbon dioxide is harmless. All it can perhaps do is cause a tiny bit of gas, but most of that is absorbed into the bloodstream. Actually with ileostomy it's really good to have the few tiny bubbles clearing through the tube. Does no harm to me anyway. I think it's because it may cause some nausea with an upset stomach is why flat water is generally recommended. If that is not an issue, bubbles are delightful, reminds me of champagne

thecretinhop · 07-04-2021 03:59PM

Mint Office legal complaint sparks RTÉ Liveline apology
Company said it was not given an opportunity to counter ‘unfair’ criticism on Joe Duffy programme

i didnt no dat! wonderful

golondrinas · 07-04-2021 04:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Auld bit of carbon dioxide is harmless. All it can perhaps do is cause a tiny bit of gas, but most of that is absorbed into the bloodstream. Actually with ileostomy it's really good to have the few tiny bubbles clearing through the tube. Does no harm to me anyway. I think it's because it may cause some nausea with an upset stomach is why flat water is generally recommended. If that is not an issue, bubbles are delightful, reminds me of champagne

Don’t like the ol champers unless of course it has a decent addition of Carlos 1. Just to flatten the bubbles a little and of course add some umph.

ButtersSuki · 07-04-2021 06:10PM

Caution: reading the following may cause distress - esp if you work in the private sector or are self-employed.

RTÉ staff have voted to reject proposals to implement a package of cuts to salaries and some conditions at the station.

Results of a ballot show 87% of members of the Trade Union Group voted to reject the proposals which were aimed at addressing financial difficulties facing the broadcaster.

The cuts, estimated to be worth €8.3m, were aimed at addressing financial difficulties facing the broadcaster and formed part of RTÉ's pledge to deliver €60m in cost savings over three years.

According to the RTÉ/TUG Stability Agreement, the organisation was seeking significant cost savings from pay cuts ranging from 3.5% to 5.35% and reductions in allowances, though those earning less than €40,000 a year would be exempt.

The agreement, including the pay cuts, would have lasted for two years starting on 1 May. After that, the organisation committed that salaries, allowances, sick pay and other cuts would be restored.

RTÉ is also launching a Voluntary Exit Programme seeking 60-70 job cuts.

Paid sick leave would have been halved, bringing it into line with the public service, :eek: :eek: while self-certified sick leave would have dropped from five days per year to seven days over a two-year period.

Salary protection for staff experiencing long-term illness would have fallen from 75% to 66%, with RTÉ reducing its contribution from 33% to 20%.

Annual leave and so-called privilege days would have been standardised.

The proposed pay cuts would see those making between €40,000 and €70,000 lose 3.35% in their gross pay, while those on salaries ranging from €70,000-€100,000 would experience a reduction of 3.85%.

Staff on salaries of €100,000-€130,000 would lose 4.35%, while those earning €130,000 to €160,000 would see a reduction of 4.85%.

The highest paid staff earning above €160,000 would have salary cuts of 5.35%.

Allowances and Rostered Duty Allowances would have fallen by 10%.

In a statement, the RTÉ TUG said it noted the result of the ballot on the proposed agreement.

It said the proposals have been overwhelmingly rejected by members across all unions and the clear message is that these proposals are now off the table.

The TUG said staff will not accept a pay cut and RTÉ management must reflect on that reality, and that its members have not had a general pay increase for 13 years.

The group said it is now a matter for RTÉ to consider the outcome of the ballot and that it will continue to be available for discussions with management.

It said its engagement in negotiations will be informed by the outcome of the ballot.

In a statement, RTÉ said it was disappointed with the outcome of the ballot.

The broadcaster said the graduated pay cuts and other related savings were a key part of the drive to reduce costs, alongside strategies to grow commercial revenue.

RTÉ will now have to consider other options as to how best to make the necessary savings while continuing as much as possible to protect programming and services for the public, and retain jobs, the company said.

Further engagement will take place with the TUG, it added.

zell12 · 07-04-2021 06:20PM

Expunge · 07-04-2021 06:24PM

"Hands off our Privilege Days!"

I look forward to seeing that on a large SIPTU placard on the side of the Stillorgan Dual Carrigeway with one of the Liveline team holding it up, very soon.

The RTE lifers should seek advice on sensible, comfortable footwear for running a long term picket line.

07-04-2021 06:34PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Caution: reading the following may cause distress - esp if you work in the private sector or are self-employed.

RTÉ staff have voted to reject proposals to implement a package of cuts to salaries and some conditions at the station.

Results of a ballot show 87% of members of the Trade Union Group voted to reject the proposals which were aimed at addressing financial difficulties facing the broadcaster.

The cuts, estimated to be worth €8.3m, were aimed at addressing financial difficulties facing the broadcaster and formed part of RTÉ's pledge to deliver €60m in cost savings over three years.

According to the RTÉ/TUG Stability Agreement, the organisation was seeking significant cost savings from pay cuts ranging from 3.5% to 5.35% and reductions in allowances, though those earning less than €40,000 a year would be exempt.

The agreement, including the pay cuts, would have lasted for two years starting on 1 May. After that, the organisation committed that salaries, allowances, sick pay and other cuts would be restored.

RTÉ is also launching a Voluntary Exit Programme seeking 60-70 job cuts.

Paid sick leave would have been halved, bringing it into line with the public service, :eek: :eek: while self-certified sick leave would have dropped from five days per year to seven days over a two-year period.

Salary protection for staff experiencing long-term illness would have fallen from 75% to 66%, with RTÉ reducing its contribution from 33% to 20%.

Annual leave and so-called privilege days would have been standardised.

The proposed pay cuts would see those making between €40,000 and €70,000 lose 3.35% in their gross pay, while those on salaries ranging from €70,000-€100,000 would experience a reduction of 3.85%.

Staff on salaries of €100,000-€130,000 would lose 4.35%, while those earning €130,000 to €160,000 would see a reduction of 4.85%.

The highest paid staff earning above €160,000 would have salary cuts of 5.35%.

Allowances and Rostered Duty Allowances would have fallen by 10%.

In a statement, the RTÉ TUG said it noted the result of the ballot on the proposed agreement.

It said the proposals have been overwhelmingly rejected by members across all unions and the clear message is that these proposals are now off the table.

The TUG said staff will not accept a pay cut and RTÉ management must reflect on that reality, and that its members have not had a general pay increase for 13 years.

The group said it is now a matter for RTÉ to consider the outcome of the ballot and that it will continue to be available for discussions with management.

It said its engagement in negotiations will be informed by the outcome of the ballot.

In a statement, RTÉ said it was disappointed with the outcome of the ballot.

The broadcaster said the graduated pay cuts and other related savings were a key part of the drive to reduce costs, alongside strategies to grow commercial revenue.

RTÉ will now have to consider other options as to how best to make the necessary savings while continuing as much as possible to protect programming and services for the public, and retain jobs, the company said.

Further engagement will take place with the TUG, it added.

Sickening when I think of how FEMPI affected me & my colleagues, but I was so very lucky to come in under an old scheme that I didn't have to resort to legal action to get my pension after extreme bullying where I was physically assaulted by a manager when trying to summons meducsl help for dangerously ill colleague. It nearly caused my own death. Anyway, that's the past, but it demonstrates RTÉ staff are in a parallel universe. In general I do support unions etc, not that they did a great deal to help me or my colleagues, but nonetheless.

generalgerry · 07-04-2021 06:43PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Paid sick leave would have been halved, bringing it into line with the public service, :eek: :eek: while self-certified sick leave would have dropped from five days per year to seven days over a two-year period.

You know, when I hear RTE going on night and day about equality I presumed that they wanted to have equal conditions for everybody. Turns out they want to hang on to more privilege than even the public sector. What a absolute shower of hypocrites.

07-04-2021 06:50PM

In fairness, nobody in their right mind would have voted for those changes. A halving of paid sick-leave, pay cuts of up to 5%, when rates have not been increased for over a decade? The best outcome for everybody at RTE is probably voluntary redundancies.

Atlantic Dawn · 07-04-2021 07:06PM

They could start wurk to rule and make their proyde and juoy, the RTE Player run unusably slow, lol.

ButtersSuki · 07-04-2021 07:09PM

RTÉ staff are in a parallel universe to the rest of us alright, and the contractors are in a parallel universe to the staff.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-04-2021 07:18PM

With their yearly losses it should be 30 to 40% across the board

If they are unhappy with that they can try their luck at TV3

07-04-2021 07:28PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

RTÉ staff are in a parallel universe to the rest of us alright, and the contractors are in a parallel universe to the staff.

Overwhelming majority of RTE employees are in a Defined Benefit pension scheme, and a very profitable one, to their credit.

I don't know what the average RTE pension is, and they don't give any hints in their financial reports. Let us pluck a figure from the air like €50,000 annual for management. Actuarily, that would cost about €2 million in the private sector, and it would rely on no recession or other upheaval. We must take that into account when looking at freelance salaries.

Odyssey 2005 · 07-04-2021 07:42PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Help me out here, Schools are safe aren't they????? Or are we being lied too??

And schools on an island would be impenetrable to the virus

Odyssey 2005 · 07-04-2021 07:47PM

PieOhMy wrote: »

Conor is a great caller. Every sentence makes a point and is actually going somewhere.

He's on the wrong show so.

Atlantic Dawn · 07-04-2021 08:49PM

For tomorrow, bit of trouble up north this evening, 'Buses Of The Troubles'...
https://twitter.com/trishdevlin/status/1379871010808270850

Del.Monte · 07-04-2021 09:04PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

For tomorrow, bit of trouble up north this evening, 'Buses Of The Troubles'...
https://twitter.com/trishdevlin/status/1379871010808270850

You have to despair for the country when you read some of the ****e trolling on that thread. Mary Lou and Arlene have marched the troops to the top of the hill and it remains to be seen whether they can get them down again.

generalgerry · 07-04-2021 09:14PM

Hi everyone, was there any mention of the settlement of the court case in the show, either by the presenter or by somebody voicing an apology?

An Claidheamh · 07-04-2021 09:19PM

Del.Monte wrote: »

You have to despair for the country when you read some of the ****e trolling on that thread. Mary Lou and Arlene have marched the troops to the top of the hill and it remains to be seen whether they can get them down again.

Apparently it’s Britain’s country

And show me where Mary Lou had anything to do with Union Jack tattooed loyalist Neanderthals flinging flaming missiles into buses of civilians in West Belfast ...

07-04-2021 10:07PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

In fairness, nobody in their right mind would have voted for those changes. A halving of paid sick-leave, pay cuts of up to 5%, when rates have not been increased for over a decade? The best outcome for everybody at RTE is probably voluntary redundancies.

I know this by my own instinct. No way does a Turkey vote for Christmas and all. It's just woeful for public servants (and I can't at all speak for private sector) who voted for cuts as advised by union, and per common sense. It just sticks in the craw, that's all, begrudged that I am.

PieOhMy · 07-04-2021 10:11PM

generalgerry wrote: »

Hi everyone, was there any mention of the settlement of the court case in the show, either by the presenter or by somebody voicing an apology?

No mention in any form. Il check the website tho, that's where the DMO apology was snuck in. They got played for fools not insisting the apology be read out on air during the show.

07-04-2021 10:12PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Overwhelming majority of RTE employees are in a Defined Benefit pension scheme, and a very profitable one, to their credit.

I don't know what the average RTE pension is, and they don't give any hints in their financial reports. Let us pluck a figure from the air like €50,000 annual for management. Actuarily, that would cost about €2 million in the private sector, and it would rely on no recession or other upheaval. We must take that into account when looking at freelance salaries.

Certainly not talking about ordinary tanknpublic servants here, those who in my own personal experience in the libraries formulated and enrolled live a complex new system for a nationwide service, no mean feat by the Grade 3 Dublin staff who did the vast majority of it. I was a grade above do didn't work quite as hard as those.

An Claidheamh · 08-04-2021 01:16AM

Del.Monte wrote: »

You have to despair for the country when you read some of the ****e trolling on that thread. Mary Lou and Arlene have marched the troops to the top of the hill and it remains to be seen whether they can get them down again.

May have also escaped your notice, but it’s FF/FG and Leo the Orange-a-Tans are after

Karma eh?

generalgerry · 08-04-2021 07:15AM

I think the most important thing about the Joe Duffy court decision yesterday was that he had to actually apologise for TWO incidences of defamation in one show. I think we can all agree that this would never have happened if it was a story about another party. His true bias against the Shinners came shining through in this, and I think going forward for the show to be objective he should never be allowed to cover any topic involving the party.

2smiggy · 08-04-2021 08:09AM

handy to be able to take an extra week of , with pay , and no need to produce any doctor's cert. RTE are an amazing organisation.

I also don't think there are too many working there under the 40K per year where there was going to be no reduction in pay

Losty Dublin · 08-04-2021 08:37AM

I was off for a few days. Did I miss anything good?

08-04-2021 09:03AM

Losty Dublin wrote: »

I was off for a few days. Did I miss anything good?

We had Darby O'Gill on yesterday telling everyone to chill out about vaccines, calls for the president to make a queen's speech telling everyone to chill out about vaccines; mildly funny content but not even a whiff of gold.

Losty Dublin · 08-04-2021 09:17AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

We had Darby O'Gill on yesterday telling everyone to chill out about vaccines, calls for the president to make a queen's speech telling everyone to chill out about vaccines; mildly funny content but not even a whiff of gold.

I missed Funny Friday?

KevRossi · 08-04-2021 09:56AM

Losty Dublin wrote: »

I was off for a few days. Did I miss anything good?

Are these your first days off this year? If so, no need for a sick note and you'll get full renumeration off one of the mods.

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