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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 VeryWise


    As soon as Micheal Martin went on telly to say the Easter Bunny was allowed in, the country runs out of Easter Eggs.....

    If he had ducks they’d drown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 VeryWise


    Agree on SF. All the opposition got on the zero covid train since December, no clear strategy or ideas from them either. It should be an open goal challenging this government on all the obvious mistakes and silly unpopular rules


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,216 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Enda Kenny: Golfgate is in the past, time to move on

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40257710.html%3ftype=amp

    Also Enda Kenny, remember the troubles before you vote Sinn Fein


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,319 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    So any poll where people supported restrictions was labelled as fake or a skewed audience. But one against them is 100% legit.

    Got ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I would murder a carvery and a few pints

    Fcuking sick of this


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,216 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    So any poll where people supported restrictions was labelled as fake or a skewed audience. But one against them is 100% legit.

    Got ya.

    It's easy to believe people who say what you want to hear I guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,024 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I recently found out that the phrase "short, sharp lockdown" is based on the phrase "short, sharp shock" - which was used by the Thatcher Government to describe their youth detention policy in the Criminal Justice Bills of the 1980s.

    In other words it is, like "lockdown", another piece of prison lingo, not science lingo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,622 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    We booked a hotel stay in Galway at the end of August. Really hoping that restrictions allow indoor dining by then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭eggy81


    VeryWise wrote: »
    Agree on SF. All the opposition got on the zero covid train since December, no clear strategy or ideas from them either. It should be an open goal challenging this government on all the obvious mistakes and silly unpopular rules

    They don’t want to be left picking up the pieces when this **** show collapses once Covid disappears and all the real problems that were there before come back into focus along with a multitude of new ones.
    I’d say it would suit the opposition for this government to run a couple of years yet. It would be the easiest take down ever over the next 12 to 18 months if they had any desire to do the hard work ahead. It’s depressing thinking about our options come next election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,194 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Vicxas wrote: »
    We booked a hotel stay in Galway at the end of August. Really hoping that restrictions allow indoor dining by then

    Hope they are open let alone indoor dining!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    dalyboy wrote: »
    Now waiting for Sinn Fein, people before profit etc to all of a sudden start supporting removal of restrictions in ....... 5,4,3,2,1 .

    More bizarre what aboutery?

    OK :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,553 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    I would murder a carvery and a few pints

    Fcuking sick of this

    I know it's not the same but if you have a pub nearby that's doing takeaways support them by ordering a tray or 2 and a few pints. I can't imagine what's going through the owners heads right now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    So any poll where people supported restrictions was labelled as fake or a skewed audience. But one against them is 100% legit.

    Got ya.

    But the difference in the article is that they’ve compared the latest poll to 8 previous polls since last April.

    I don’t know if the criteria for the polls is consistent, or if they were carried out by the same company, haven’t read in depth. But If they are comparing like-for-like in those polls it’s pretty clear support for restrictions has taken a nose-dive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    gozunda wrote: »
    More bizarre what aboutery?

    OK :rolleyes:

    How is that whataboutery? To quote the princess bride I don't think it means what you think it means


  • Posts: 192 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can’t wait until the parties start to fracture properly now. The bubbling started a while ago and now it’s getting worse and the public won’t take much more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    NPHET is the new Catholic Church in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    eggy81 wrote: »
    They don’t want to be left picking up the pieces when this **** show collapses once Covid disappears and all the real problems that were there before come back into focus along with a multitude of new ones.
    I’d say it would suit the opposition for this government to run a couple of years yet. It would be the easiest take down ever over the next 12 to 18 months if they had any desire to do the hard work ahead. It’s depressing thinking about our options come next election.

    I was only thinking about the GE election last night.

    Your right. There’s zero in regards competent alternative. Covid situation has shun a light on how they are just populist following puppets. No real leaders anywhere to be found.

    What Ireland could benefit from is a trump like political party. Not that this party should actually win but just that their presence should be felt in the dail.

    At the moment the dail is just an echo chamber from one extreme to the other.
    It’s the reason Irish politics is about to all but collapse in on itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    gozunda wrote: »
    More bizarre what aboutery?

    OK :rolleyes:

    What aboutery ?
    Wait till you see the coming weeks as they all change political stance on restrictions to back the public sentiment. It’s as certain as the weeds growing in my back garden.

    What aboutery indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Vicxas wrote: »
    We booked a hotel stay in Galway at the end of August. Really hoping that restrictions allow indoor dining by then

    If those business are not back up running in the next few weeks I struggle to see how they can reopen.

    There was a chap on Newstalk a few weeks back saying that business's owners are using personal savings to repay business loans and nobody in government gives a f#ck.

    They’ve been closed for 5 of the past 6 months

    It’s unfathomable what NPHET & government have done.

    The catastrophe will only become evident when they finally relax restrictions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    dalyboy wrote: »
    I was only thinking about the GE election last night.

    Your right. There’s zero in regards competent alternative. Covid situation has shun a light on how they are just populist following puppets. No real leaders anywhere to be found.

    What Ireland could benefit from is a trump like political party. Not that this party should actually win but just that their presence should be felt in the dail.

    At the moment the dail is just an echo chamber from one extreme to the other.
    It’s the reason Irish politics is about to all but collapse in on itself.

    Ireland is one of only 3 European countries without a proper party representing the right side/ nationalist of politics in either parliament or opposition. It is an echo chamber. Literally

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_nationalist_parties_in_Europe


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Ireland is one of only 3 European countries without a proper party representing the right side/ nationalist of politics in either parliament or opposition. It is an echo chamber. Literally

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_nationalist_parties_in_Europe

    And more incredible is that no politician has noticed this vacuum that could be easily filled by a right leaning party formation. It wouldn’t even need to be that extreme to really revolutionise the political landscape.

    Nobody I know either personally or professionally gives a dam about politics anymore as they’ve just given up all hope of any real change. There’s NO present alternative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    If those business are not back up running in the next few weeks I struggle to see how they can reopen.

    There was a chap on Newstalk a few weeks back saying that business's owners are using personal savings to repay business loans and nobody in government gives a f#ck.

    They’ve been closed for 5 of the past 6 months

    It’s unfathomable what NPHET & government have done.

    The catastrophe will only become evident when they finally relax restrictions

    People are in for a shock when they see what their main streets and shopping centres look like when things open up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    ypres5 wrote: »
    How is that whataboutery? To quote the princess bride I don't think it means what you think it means

    Well perhaps I dunno maybe address the actual comments. Otherwise yup its complete and utter => whataboutery.

    To paraphrase the princess bride I don't think you think it means what you think it means ;)
    dalyboy wrote: »
    What aboutery ?
    Wait till you see the coming weeks as they all change political stance on restrictions to back the public sentiment. It’s as certain as the weeds growing in my back garden.

    What aboutery indeed

    And where did the comment I posted refer to "stance on restrictions" or "political stance" or indeed "public sentiment"???

    What's certain as weeds is the level of whataboutery in this thread which has reached a new record :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    gozunda wrote: »
    Well perhaps I dunno maybe address the actual comments. Otherwise yup its complete and utter => whataboutery.

    To paraphrase the princess bride I don't think you think it means what you think it means ;)

    To call my comment what aboutery is saying that politician’s will ignore public opinion. Sinn Fein etc base their very existence on what people think (supported by public opinion polls).

    To claim what aboutery is not following reality and you should move that rejection of fact to the conspiracy forums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭11521323


    gozunda wrote: »
    Well perhaps I dunno maybe address the actual comments. Otherwise yup its complete and utter => whataboutery.

    To paraphrase the princess bride I don't think you think it means what you think it means ;)



    And where did the comment I posted refer to "stance on restrictions" or "political stance" or indeed "public sentiment"???

    What's certain as weeds is the level of whataboutery in this thread which has reached a new record :rolleyes:

    The irony of you using 'whataboutery' when the Governments entire outlook, which you support vehemently, is based on complete 'whataboutery' and nothing more.

    You're relentless if nothing else :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    gozunda wrote: »
    Well perhaps I dunno maybe address the actual comments. Otherwise yup its complete and utter => whataboutery.

    To paraphrase the princess bride I don't think you think it means what you think it means ;)



    And where did the comment I posted refer to "stance on restrictions" or "political stance" or indeed "public sentiment"???

    What's certain as weeds is the level of whataboutery in this thread which has reached a new record :rolleyes:

    You’ve lost.
    Show some dignity will you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    11521323 wrote: »
    The irony of you using 'whataboutery' when the Governments entire outlook, which you support vehemently, is based on complete 'whataboutery' and nothing more. You're relentless if nothing else :)

    Yeah look I understand you think the whole thing is a big goverment conspiracy theory or whatever

    And nope. That is even more whataboutery with a dose of personalisation as failure to answer the question asked.

    Exactly how does any of that relate to what was posted regarding vaccines and treating those in hospital with covid?

    You know like reality and the actual comment in question...

    Or your comments continue to engage in even more whataboutery?


  • Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dalyboy wrote: »
    And more incredible is that no politician has noticed this vacuum that could be easily filled by a right leaning party formation. It wouldn’t even need to be that extreme to really revolutionise the political landscape.

    Nobody I know either personally or professionally gives a dam about politics anymore as they’ve just given up all hope of any real change. There’s NO present alternative.

    So many are disenfranchised politically in Ireland. I estimate it to be about a third of the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    dalyboy wrote: »
    To call my comment what aboutery is saying that politician’s will ignore public opinion. Sinn Fein etc base their very existence on what people think (supported by public opinion polls).

    To claim what aboutery is not following reality and you should move that rejection of fact to the conspiracy forums.

    OK I shall say this slowly.

    You or anyone rabbiting on about de gubbermint in reply to a comment about efficacy of vaccines and treating those in hospital with covid is indeed "whataboutery"

    And yes such amazing leaps of whataboutery from vaccines efficiency etc and covid to sinn fein party politics is indeed more suited to the conspiracy forum. Thats about it. I'll leave you at it....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Enda Kenny: Golfgate is in the past, time to move on

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40257710.html%3ftype=amp

    Also Enda Kenny, remember the troubles before you vote Sinn Fein

    Ah Enda.. :rolleyes:

    With the never-ending procession of scandals under his watch, as well as the singular achievement of making FF electable again by squandering a "recovery", and topped off with a legacy setting us up for the two weakest Governments we've had yet so he could be the only FGer to be Tee-shock into a second term, you'd think he's just stay quiet and keep at that forgotten railways in Irish thing he's fronting on RTE lately.


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