Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

ThunbergsAreGo · 27-03-2021 07:07PM

ninebeanrows wrote: »

They never going to fill up people will just be routing through Northern Ireland or the UK.

The Irish government seem to want to destroy the Irish Aviation industry further by nonsensical rules.

What's another industry ruined....

faceman · 27-03-2021 07:10PM

Rodin wrote: »

They might have been coming from Perth but who got on the plane in Dubai?

Makes no sense that they should not have to quarantine after sharing 7 hours of airplane air with others perhaps who are coming from UAE. They may have spent only 45 minutes in Dubai but Dubai may have spent 7 hours sitting beside them.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Just make everyone quarantine. Much more simple.

Take that up with the Irish Dr. Conroy in Australia who tweeted it. He’s a public health consultant and pro quarantine

But doesn’t sound pro quarantine for this family or perhaps anyone travelling from Australia to Ireland?

Rodin · 27-03-2021 07:14PM

faceman wrote: »

Take that up with the Irish Dr. Conroy in Australia who tweeted it. He’s a public health consultant and pro quarantine

But doesn’t sound pro quarantine for this family or perhaps anyone travelling from Australia to Ireland?

Perhaps he's had an off day.
If the plane flew direct from Perth to Dublin then he may have a point but it didn't so he doesn't.

Rodin · 27-03-2021 07:17PM

faceman wrote: »

Take that up with the Irish Dr. Conroy in Australia who tweeted it. He’s a public health consultant and pro quarantine

But doesn’t sound pro quarantine for this family or perhaps anyone travelling from Australia to Ireland?

I think you may have misrepresented his tweet.
He's comparing the family to someone in France/UK. Asking why they should have to quarantine but French don't.
Seems to me he's arguing for MORE quarantine and Im with him on that.

Leftwaffe · 27-03-2021 07:25PM

Most advanced hotel quarantine in Europe by a country mile Donnelly said the last time I heard him talking about it! What a spoofer.

Is it correct to say that some people on a flight may have to quarantine and others won’t?

gmisk · 27-03-2021 07:28PM

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

What's another industry ruined....

Johnny Logans less successful follow up single...

kravmaga · 27-03-2021 07:30PM

IngazZagni wrote: »

A flight from Heathrow to Belfast today was so full they upgraded to a larger aircraft. No doubt people are simply going via Belfast now to avoid this.

A friend of mine works in Aer Lingus, Dublin airport ,he said flights from UAE, Dubai have all been full for weeks arriving into Dublin airport, the vast majority of pax are British, then heading up to Belfast by bus, car or train then flying back to UK airports from Belfast.

This has been going on for weeks, its not a new phenonium.

DAA know this also, so Im sure the government have been aware but too little too late as usual.

Tyrone212 · 27-03-2021 07:32PM

kravmaga wrote: »

A friend of mine works in Aer Lingus, he said flights from UAE, Dubai have all being full for weeks, then the majority of pax are British, flying back to UK via Belfast.

This has been going on for weeks, its not a new phenonium.

DAA know this also, so Im sure the government have been aware but too little too late as usual

I thought all flights in to Belfast were from the UK only at present. Maybe I'm wrong. They're going to introduce their own hotel quarantine when international flights resume as far as I know.

kravmaga · 27-03-2021 07:44PM

Leslie Plain Hair wrote: »

3 people escaping from mandatory quarantine after one day sums up the whole Govt response to this mess since the end of lockdown one.

An utter shambles. Either do it right or don't do it at all.

Yeah just read the article, I wonder who is in charge of security at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Santry, private security contractors or the Army?

That said what powers has a private security contractor or the Army personnel on duty to detain person/s who may wish to abscond the hotel quarantine?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

kravmaga · 27-03-2021 07:50PM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

I thought all flights in to Belfast were from the UK only at present. Maybe I'm wrong. They're going to introduce their own hotel quarantine when international flights resume as far as I know.

No , upon arrival into Dublin airport from Dubai direct with Emirates , the ex-pat British passengers were making their way to Belfast by any means, then getting flights back to UK airports via Belfast.

skinny90 · 27-03-2021 07:52PM

kravmaga wrote: »

Yeah just read the article, I wonder who is in charge of security at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Santry, private security contractors or the Army?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

first of many id say

saabsaab · 27-03-2021 07:53PM

kravmaga wrote: »

Yeah just read the article, I wonder who is in charge of security at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Santry, private security contractors or the Army?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0327/1206551-coronavirus-hotel-quarantine-ireland/

They will have to make an example of these to discourage further attempts.

kravmaga · 27-03-2021 08:08PM

saabsaab wrote: »

They will have to make an example of these to discourage further attempts.

Yes, well 3 gone so far , many more to follow Im sure.

faceman · 27-03-2021 08:23PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Central mental hospital if necessary?

If there’s room...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-in-three-hour-standoff-with-staff-at-gates-of-central-mental-hospital-1.4517141

Wanderer2010 · 27-03-2021 08:28PM

zorro2566 wrote: »

How are the travellers who are put in these hotels going to afford €150 per day and what happens if you don’t pay?

This whole situation has shone a very blinding light on how unequal the way certain factions of society are treated during this pandemic. You can be guaranteed that the travellers will be excused having to quarantine under some exemption involving their culture. And it will be very interesting to see how many Americans who have no negative test will be treated.
I know we bend over for the USA and we bow to all their multi nationals and army stopover planes but its an absolute joke that the USA isnt on that list, given how serious a problem they are still having with the virus.

faceman · 27-03-2021 08:31PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

This whole situation has shone a very blinding light on how unequal the way certain factions of society are treated during this pandemic. You can be guaranteed that the travellers will be excused having to quarantine under some exemption involving their culture. And it will be very interesting to see how many Americans who have no negative test will be treated.
I know we bend over for the USA and we bow to all their multi nationals and army stopover planes but its an absolute joke that the USA isnt on that list, given how serious a problem they are still having with the virus.

Americans will be mostly vaccinated by the summer. They won’t be of concern.

Atlantic Dawn · 27-03-2021 08:48PM

faceman wrote: »

Americans will be mostly vaccinated by the summer. They won’t be of concern.

They will if we haven't reached a decent level of vaccination here before opening back up, those vaccinated can still spread it.

strandroad · 27-03-2021 08:58PM

faceman wrote: »

Americans will be mostly vaccinated by the summer. They won’t be of concern.

I'd like to know how many refuse! They might not be the passport holding kind though.

NH2013 · 27-03-2021 09:19PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They will if we haven't reached a decent level of vaccination here before opening back up, those vaccinated can still spread it.

Have the vaccines not been found to reduce transmission by 98%? In particular the mRNA ones. That's effectively stopped transmission in my book.

faceman · 27-03-2021 10:25PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They will if we haven't reached a decent level of vaccination here before opening back up, those vaccinated can still spread it.

That’s been knocked on the head over the few days.

saabsaab · 27-03-2021 11:20PM

Any more information on the 3 absconders?

faceman · 27-03-2021 11:26PM

You’d think with borders closed and NZ being on top of covid that their health service would be in good shape.

Oh.

https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/b4455a48-c12e-421f-9c99-9e3a868b0e88?__twitter_impression=true

saabsaab · 27-03-2021 11:30PM

faceman wrote: »

You’d think with borders closed and NZ being on top of covid that their health service would be in good shape.

Oh.

https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/b4455a48-c12e-421f-9c99-9e3a868b0e88?__twitter_impression=true

Just think of what it would be with Covid to deal with as well!

Dyr · 27-03-2021 11:41PM

faceman wrote: »

You’d think with borders closed and NZ being on top of covid that their health service would be in good shape.

Oh.

https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/b4455a48-c12e-421f-9c99-9e3a868b0e88?__twitter_impression=true

People in corridors lol, thats called a week day in an Irish Hospital. Some amount of straw clutching there to find a negative.

Rodin · 28-03-2021 12:29AM

faceman wrote: »

You’d think with borders closed and NZ being on top of covid that their health service would be in good shape.

Oh.

https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/b4455a48-c12e-421f-9c99-9e3a868b0e88?__twitter_impression=true

They have the same problems facing all public health systems.. an aging population and chronic disease.

normanoffside · 28-03-2021 12:32AM

saabsaab wrote: »

Just think of what it would be with Covid to deal with as well!

You mean instead.

expectationlost · 28-03-2021 01:05AM

Tonight one of the two missing men who absconded was located and in Waterford and returned to the Crowne Plaza.

The other man is believed to be a Northern Irish native and potentially went back over the border, sources say

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/three-people-abscond-from-hotel-quarantine-in-dublin-40246285.html

mandrake04 · 28-03-2021 03:43AM

saabsaab wrote: »

Just think of what it would be with Covid to deal with as well!

That's why they took the precaution against Covid, NZ ICU capacity is even worse than Ireland's.

Away With The Fairies · 28-03-2021 08:13AM

Can anyone explain why America isn't on the list of countries for the MHQ?

If the idea is to stop new variants coming in, didn't America choose not to control the spread of the virus? There could be new variants but they wouldn't know.

IngazZagni · 28-03-2021 10:24AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

That's why they took the precaution against Covid, NZ ICU capacity is even worse than Ireland's.

Ireland has the youngest population in the EU and is quite similar to that of New Zealand’s. That is a big factor in determining ICU capacity. ICU capacity is not just a bed, it is also a group of staff that are on active standby in the hospital ready to deal with a patient. Having loads of excess ICU beds just in case would be completely inefficient. Being able to ramp up ICU capacity at short notice is what’s key and we did a bit of that over the past year when needed.

Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

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