Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I often wonder how that’s going to work out for Australia and NZ.

Can they their borders and expect to remain Covid free some time in the future?

How’s the vaccination programme going down there?

Here in Australia there is Covid, there had always been Covid on Australia soil and anyone who says there is Zero Covid is a liar it’s just handled better because the quarantine system keeps it manageable. The test and trace system is really good because Australia already had most of the test equipment for several years but just repurposed it for Covid, they are also able to effectively sequence different strains as they have plenty of capability to do that.

In some states most restrictions are already gone and the few that are left are going from Monday

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-24/nsw-covid-19-restrictions-easing-from-monday-march-29/100025548

It’s hard to believe it’s nearly been a year since the restrictions began easing on 15th May of which was a fairly mild “lockdown” and that has been a sort of sliding scale normality since.



The vaccination program been going about 4 weeks and they done about 460K which were imported ones but going be ramping it up with locally made vaccine

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/csl-looking-to-produce-more-than-1-million-doses-a-week-as-vaccine-program-continues-20210324-p57dp9.html

I have mine booked for 10th April.

But Australia has also been helping Papua New Guinea with vaccines which is more of a priority.


In all I’m like most other people here extremely happy and grateful that we (with exception of Melbourne) managed to avoid any tough lockdowns. I think the success has mainly been buying time and watching what mistakes other countries make, I think Australia will be watching what goes on in UK and Europe regarding vaccines over the next 6 months before they reopen travel to those areas.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I hope this stuff isn’t forgotten.

Talk about kicking people when they are down.

These business people have lost their livelihoods and this lad is claiming they have blood on their hands transmitting cases when they are closed for months

RTE for the truth eh

never mind george he's probably still bitter his political career never amounted to much after he threw a tantrum about not being given a Ministerial position out the gate and then quitting in a huff back to rte to spout his meaningless drivel

stratowide wrote: »

No deaths in Northern Ireland for the 3rd day in a row today.

It'll be a matter of weeks before they open up the way things are going there.

The gardai will find it easier to keep the tide out than stopping the stampede up north then.

Another day of zero covid ICU admissions, 66 in ICU now. The numbers in ICU and hospitalisations is decreasing very quickly this week.

I really don't think they can continue this lockdown with any good reason beyond April 5th.

Cases are static, but the number of people getting very sick has dropped off a cliff.

hamburgham wrote: »

The hospitalisations figure should be even lower. I heard someone saying on the radio the other day that some of the hospitalisations were only still in hospital for ‘containment’ reasons ie to stop it spreading and not because they warranted hospital care.

Heard that too.

My first thought was how many of those hospital numbers since March 2020 were numbers purely for containment

It’s an important distinction as hospital numbers were one of the main metrics used to impose severe suppression measures

That guy on the radio said a significant amount were in hospital right now as a containment measure

Gael23 wrote: »

What might this gradual reopening of construction look like?

Just the chimney, they won’t put on the roof for years

Deleted User wrote: »

This is an absolute bald face lie. I work in a major tertiary hospital. Why would we waste a precious hospital bed on containment?

I don’t know Dazzler

A TD made the claim on Newstalk during the week. Said he was informed by healthcare professionals

He wasn’t contradicted , so I’ll believe him until publicly counter argued

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1375581488083828736?s=19

Israel data showing cases also falling off a cliff with 50% vaccinated and most of society open..here's hoping this is us in two months time!

Hopefully this will finally show that Asymptomatic infections don't spread.

normanoffside wrote: »

Hopefully this will finally show that Asymptomatic infections don't spread.

I am fairly certain I heard in March 2020 that the physics behinds asymptomatic cases not spreading the virus is that it requires sneezing and coughing to propel the virus the required distance to actually transmit.

2021 science has changed though

normanoffside wrote: »

Hopefully this will finally show that Asymptomatic infections don't spread.

Do you mean post vaccination or without?


"Vaccines could prevent asymptomatic infection. Here's why that's key to ending the pandemic."


https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/vaccines-prevent-asymptomatic-infection-key-ending-pandemic-rcna444


Study here:

"Single-dose BNT162b2 vaccine protects against asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection"

https://www.authorea.com/users/332778/articles/509881-single-dose-bnt162b2-vaccine-protects-against-asymptomatic-sars-cov-2-infection?access_token=-hDTQsMUXcCPSpdZV_Lmpg

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I am fairly certain I heard in March 2020 that the physics behinds asymptomatic cases not spreading the virus is that it requires sneezing and coughing to propel the virus the required distance to actually transmit.

2021 science has changed though

It was already proven in the Wuhan study in February 2020, confirmed by the WHO a few months later but still used as a scare tactic the world over

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

Graham wrote: »

Yup, probably nothing at all to do with the extensive vaccination program.

But they tell us you can still carry and spread the virus after vaccination, you will just be asymptomatic and less likely to get sick.

john4321 wrote: »

Do you mean post vaccination or without?


"Vaccines could prevent asymptomatic infection. Here's why that's key to ending the pandemic."


https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/vaccines-prevent-asymptomatic-infection-key-ending-pandemic-rcna444


Study here:

"Single-dose BNT162b2 vaccine protects against asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection"

https://www.authorea.com/users/332778/articles/509881-single-dose-bnt162b2-vaccine-protects-against-asymptomatic-sars-cov-2-infection?access_token=-hDTQsMUXcCPSpdZV_Lmpg

The whole idea of 'asymptomatic infection' is ludicrous.
It's why NPHET rebel against antigen testing and why PCR testing doesn't work.

Even #zerocovid Nut Gerry Killeen knows this this:

https://twitter.com/killeen_gerry/status/1374820429953662977

https://twitter.com/killeen_gerry/status/1374820435880206339