Transgender Woman guilty of child abuse imagery offenses [ADMIN WARNING IN 1ST POST]

Tokyo · 26-03-2021 3:01pm

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JMNolan · 26-03-2021 4:29pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

Just 3 days ago, man given lighter sentence by Nolan for similar crimes.16 months for 272 images and 159 video of toddlers. Save the conspiracy theories.
The issue here is Nolan's light sentencing, not the fact the criminal was a transgender woman
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/student-jailed-for-downloading-depraved-child-abuse-images-1.4518047

I'm getting sick and tired of Judge Martin Nolan getting constantly slagged off

marklazarcovic · 26-03-2021 5:37pm

every pedo in and out of jail for years will tell you they cannot be changed,fcuk your remorse and your insistence you can change with therapy,not a fckin hope you will change,you will change they way you seek out your perversions so as not to get caught again,thats about all you will change.

nonsense sentences.

also it sickens me how there is no funding for high levels of policing of these crimes but there is never ending funding for small drug offences and anything involving tax evasion or monetary crime. i know which i feel is far more important.

statesaver · 26-03-2021 7:38pm

Women arrested for being pedo's / sexual predators seems to be increasing lately, wonder why that is ?

nullzero · 26-03-2021 7:38pm

statesaver wrote: »

Women arrested for being pedo's / sexual predators seems to be increasing lately, wonder why that is ?

Cops being more efficient?

1800_Ladladlad · 26-03-2021 8:40pm

Judge Nolan is is a parasite and needs to go. It was only a couple of days ago a lad Turkistani student was jailed after being caught with 272 images & 159 videos of children and babies. Nolan handed down a 3 1/2 year sentence but suspended the final two years and two months on a number of conditions.

https://tinyurl.com/2yfn9pk5

The sentence Nolan gave to this parasitic excuse of a human is disgusting!!! Back to Brazel when the case is done I dont give a sh*te if shes "married" to an Irish man

jam_mac_jam · 26-03-2021 8:55pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Judge Nolan is is a parasite and needs to go. It was only a couple of days ago a lad Turkistani student was jailed after being caught with 272 images & 159 videos of children and babies. Nolan handed down a 3 1/2 year sentence but suspended the final two years and two months on a number of conditions.

https://tinyurl.com/2yfn9pk5

The sentence Nolan gave to this parasitic excuse of a human is disgusting!!! Back to Brazel when the case is done I dont give a sh*te if shes "married" to an Irish man

Every single time you hear a crazy sentence it's Nolan.

Northernlily · 26-03-2021 9:12pm

Knew it would be judge Martin Nolan after reading first page of comments and before I opened the article. He always has a few kind words for these sickos.

Bobblehats · 26-03-2021 9:19pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Judge Nolan is is a parasite and needs to go. It was only a couple of days ago a lad Turkistani student was jailed after being caught with 272 images & 159 videos of children and babies. Nolan handed down a 3 1/2 year sentence but suspended the final two years and two months on a number of conditions.

https://tinyurl.com/2yfn9pk5

The sentence Nolan gave to this parasitic excuse of a human is disgusting!!! Back to Brazel when the case is done I dont give a sh*te if shes "married" to an Irish man

Back to turkmanistan with him and all

Galwayguy35 · 26-03-2021 9:22pm

So the judge noted this person has remorse for downloading this material, amazingly everyone who gets caught is sorry but having thousands of images on multiple devices would strike me as someone who was actively looking for this stuff and would have continued to do so if they weren't found out.

Should be deported now and let serve the sentence in a Brazilian prison.

Kivaro · 27-03-2021 1:38am

Odd progression in this thread.
The focus has apparently moved from protecting children, the victims of the perpetrator of these crimes, to protecting the transgressor of the crime.
Maybe I'm wrong. The descriptors of the parties is more important than the actual crime itself .... upon pain of death.

DeadHand · 27-03-2021 12:07pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Should be deported now and let serve the sentence in a Brazilian prison.

I’d disagree.

This criminal should serve a lengthier sentence in a men’s prison here and be deported immediately upon the completion of said sentence.

This would happen in a sane society concerned first and foremost with the protection of its members, particularly its most vulnerable members.

Sadly, we do not live in such a society.

JustAThought · 27-03-2021 12:18pm

Lemon Davis lll wrote: »

Likely entered the State claiming to study English in an august centre of learning, above a shabby launderette somewhere along Dorset St.

Would this be one that dosn’t have exams but focuses on attendence for conversation classes only and charges e700 a term to have your name ticked off on a daily roll-call?

I wonder if the local fire station can check these attendence ‘lists’ for fire safety and overcrowding safety compliance. God forbid Immigration check daily that they are fulfilling the conditions of their visas.

JustAThought · 27-03-2021 12:40pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

And its not "pornography". It's images of child abuse pure and simple

2,464 children and babies raped
754 further new and depraved images of children from age TWO being sexually abused and raped

and s/he get a slap on the wrist and an OK to stay in a nice cosy jail and keep his/her residency and marriage in Ireland.

That 12,000 social welfare payment s/he’ll put in the bank per year for being a prisoner will really come in handy when s/he is airlifted courtesy of the taxpayer back home to Brazil.

I wonder who will help the 3,218 ‘new’ innocent raped babies and little children and their families from the horrific sexual abuse and sexual violence they had forced upon them by this depraved sex predator?

Does Nolan think the 900,000 private messages and conversations by this depraved sexual predator and sexual abuse monster also show they are a good candidate for reform ??

Its not just the sex predators who should be prison.

Where is the Immigration control and social welfare inspectors in investigating this sex predator and prostitute? They were here on what appears to be a sham marriage and visa, they were working illegally and not delcaring the income. They trading new and disgusting and depraved pictures of toddlers and babies being raped - I hope this human filth is eviscerated.

Why are politicians allowing this sentencing farce and to continue? They choose the judges. The can reform laws overnight to tax our houses and charge us for water. Why are they protecting sex predators and allowing vile subhuman predators to walk freely amongst law abiding people?

What has happened to his/her victims? Where are they? Still being raped and abused?

There is evil amongst us. Depraved and evil. And yet they are allowed, facilitated and protected.

We should deport this human paracite back to the prison system in Brazil and bring back capitol punishment to protect the innocent by exterminating this kind of depraved human filth.

I doubt the three thousand two hundred and eighteen raped babies and toddlers will disagree. Or the other ones we don’t know about - to feed his/her vile depraved mind and sexual depravity for baby rape.

bb1234567 · 27-03-2021 1:24pm

Kivaro wrote: »

Odd progression in this thread.
The focus has apparently moved from protecting children, the victims of the perpetrator of these crimes, to protecting the transgressor of the crime.
Maybe I'm wrong. The descriptors of the parties is more important than the actual crime itself .... upon pain of death.

LOL. You think the OP's focus was on protecting children?
Why wasn't the OP focusing their concern on the victims only then, why all the attention brought to details about the demographic the criminal falls into, you'd wonder wouldn't you? Clearly, their concern was not just with the victims, and naturally that framed how the discussion progressed, because that's the discussion they wanted, not about the victims.

Pathetic argument tactic, can throw around accusations all day against all of a minority group, clearly as important to the OP as bringing attention to the crimes committed against the vimctims , and then calling that nasty behaviour out is immedtiately blamed as forgetting/disregarding plight of the victims. Can you point out even one post where anybody even implied defense of the criminal in question? No , some posters simply became irate by the fact that the crimes committed by this one transgender woman were being used to paint an entire demographic with the same brush.

Very low indeed.

Kivaro · 27-03-2021 1:42pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

LOL......

On a serious discussion about child abuse, when you start with that, the rest of the post just crumbles away.

bb1234567 · 27-03-2021 1:48pm

Kivaro wrote: »

On a serious discussion about child abuse, when you start with that, the rest of the post just crumbles away.

Indeed I was clearly not laughing about the topic at hand but your pathetic attempt to distract from the discussion. So you can continue reading in good confidence that I was evidently not laughing about child abuse

bb1234567 · 27-03-2021 1:54pm

kildare lad wrote: »

Immigrant and transgender , an NGOs wets dream .

kildare lad wrote: »

.

That's because they're men . I don't care if a man wants to call himself a woman or dress up like one it's no skin off my nose , but they're still biologically a man , no matter that they try and tell you different.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

The person in the article is male.

Kivaro I'd love to hear how relevant you think these kind of posts are to a debate that should only be about the victims of the crime. Do you think this sentiment is helpful and protecting children? Because these are the people who took it upon themselves to steer the discussion in that direction from the get go. Only natural that people would respond to them seeing as they were not removed. It's almost like you're only determined to call out certain types of posts which are irrelevant to what should indeed be the core focus of the discussion , the plight of the victims in question.

statesaver · 27-03-2021 8:04pm

A bullet is too good for him.

nullzero · 27-03-2021 8:51pm

Alaninwondeand wrote: »

Just to clarify why I brought up the perverts biological sex, when I read the article it stated that the offender was women.

I was shocked that a women could do something like this. After reading the article it turns out the offender was a biological male. The stats show that males are more likely to commit this type of offence. So in that regard I don't go with the idea that this offender is a woman, regardless of what a person want's us to believe.

Something like what? Download images from the Internet?

Women are perfectly capable of heinous acts, the notion that perverse, violent or generally reprehensible acts are the sole preserve of men isn't rational.

Look at Amelia Dyer, a Victorian era woman convicted and hanged for the callous murder of a number of babies, her actual death toll is thought to have been over 400 infants. A woman, a serial killer more prolific than any of her male contemporaries.

Humans are capable of committing heinous acts, male female, or identifying as a bloody set of traffic lights. Humans are potentially dreadful creatures and the notion that gender plays a role in influencing someone to commit horrible crimes is misguided in the extreme.

I can't stand the ultra PC notions surrounding issues of gender identity that the world is awash with in this day and age, it's way over the top and the popular consensus has swung from acceptable prejudice against anything deviating from the norm to accepting anything that is outside the norm without question, which isn't a healthy response, rather the guilty conscience of society attempting to over compensate for having been so exclusionary to these people in the past.

With that said, in this case the persons gender or how they identify their gender is beside the point. They are indulging a socially unacceptable paraphilia which has nothing to do with their gender and they should be harshly punished for that transgression, something which I feel hasn't happened in this case and should be corrected.

dontmindme · 27-03-2021 10:04pm

nullzero wrote: »

Something like what? Download images from the Internet?

Women are perfectly capable of heinous acts, the notion that perverse, violent or generally reprehensible acts are the sole preserve of men isn't rational.

Look at Amelia Dyer, a Victorian era woman convicted and hanged for the callous murder of a number of babies, her actual death toll is thought to have been over 400 infants. A woman, a serial killer more prolific than any of her male contemporaries.

Humans are capable of committing heinous acts, male female, or identifying as a bloody set of traffic lights. Humans are potentially dreadful creatures and the notion that gender plays a role in influencing someone to commit horrible crimes is misguided in the extreme.

I can't stand the ultra PC notions surrounding issues of gender identity that the world is awash with in this day and age, it's way over the top and the popular consensus has swung from acceptable prejudice against anything deviating from the norm to accepting anything that is outside the norm without question, which isn't a healthy response, rather the guilty conscience of society attempting to over compensate for having been so exclusionary to these people in the past.

With that said, in this case the persons gender or how they identify their gender is beside the point. They are indulging a socially unacceptable paraphilia which has nothing to do with their gender and they should be harshly punished for that transgression, something which I feel hasn't happened in this case and should be corrected.

There is no argument to be made, it's a fact - male paedophiles greatly outnumber female paedophiles - do a bit of research.

nullzero · 27-03-2021 10:07pm

dontmindme wrote: »

There is no argument to be made, it's a fact - male paedophiles greatly outnumber female paedophiles - do a bit of research.

Did I say otherwise?

No need to be so crabby.

SlowBlowin · 27-03-2021 10:08pm

Males Vs Female sexual crime statistics

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137358134_3

dontmindme · 27-03-2021 10:13pm

nullzero wrote: »

Did I say otherwise?

No need to be so crabby.

You were trying to argue the point that the OP was somehow wrong in his surprise in finding out that this paedophile was a woman.

volchitsa · 27-03-2021 11:02pm

dontmindme wrote: »

You were trying to argue the point that the OP was somehow wrong in his surprise in finding out that this paedophile was a woman.

That's because statistically it very rarely is though. Over 95% of convicted paedophiles are male. So even though it can happen (though the example of Amelia Dyer is not one of a female paedophile) it's fair enough to be surprised when one does come across one. And trans women seem to have a male profile in their rates of violent and sex offences, according to links posted on here earlier.

statesaver · 27-03-2021 11:34pm

nullzero wrote: »

Cops being more efficient?

No. It's because they are men.

nullzero · 27-03-2021 11:40pm

dontmindme wrote: »

You were trying to argue the point that the OP was somehow wrong in his surprise in finding out that this paedophile was a woman.

I was arguing the point made that they couldn't believe I woman could do something like this.

My point was that women are capable of being as evil as men, some even more so, even if the crimes aren't necessarily the same in all cases.

The majority of paedophiles (95%) are men, but the numbers of female paedophiles that make up the remaining 5% aren't insignificant either.

They're all sick people.

Potential-Monke · 28-03-2021 12:08am

nullzero wrote: »

No adult with normal cognitive functions...

Just a little bit from your post that piqued my interest. These people must not have normal cognitive functions if they're sexually aroused by, or attracted to, babies, children or young teens. So, if that is the case, is that a defence insofar as other crimes can take mental instability or deficiencies into account? Would it be an acceptable contributing factor?

Playing devils advocate here, I personally think that person should be stoned to death, but we're not allowed to do that. Instead, we're gonna pay for their stay for 3 years before hoofing them out of the country, rather than just hoofing them out now and save ourselves a few bob.

Crazy sentence tbf, but completely expected from Nolan. Actually shocked there a custodial sentence from him. The previous gender of the person shouldn't matter, but I agree it needs to be noted for statistics, which other posters above have better outlined why. There are points in there that warrant discussion, but it's like running across egg shells at this point so probably best not to get into it.

bb1234567 · 28-03-2021 1:00am

Alaninwondeand wrote: »

Just to clarify why I brought up the perverts biological sex, when I read the article it stated that the offender was women.

I was shocked that a women could do something like this. After reading the article it turns out the offender was a biological male. The stats show that males are more likely to commit this type of offence. So in that regard I don't go with the idea that this offender is a woman, regardless of what a person want's us to believe.

And that's fine and interesting discussion, it's established as a dual talking point from the beginning. I didn't take issue with your OP btw,I just used it to make a point, because Kivaro has gone and then called out posts by people like me as being irrelevant to the topic at hand because they discussed the trasgender aspect, while posts like yours which which are equally irrelevant in that regard and initiated that end of the conversation (if we are to say that the child victims should be the sole focus of the discussion) are apparently fine by him/her.

So then they have gone and t disingenuously insinuated that anybody disgusted by the idea that posters have equated paedophilia with being transgender are by extension defending the paedophile who happens to be transgender. He's tried to silence one side of debate by accusing them of defending paedophilia. Very very nasty and deceptive behaviour on their part, it's manipulative gaslighting.

One eyed Jack · 28-03-2021 2:17am

volchitsa wrote: »

That's because statistically it very rarely is though. Over 95% of convicted paedophiles are male. So even though it can happen (though the example of Amelia Dyer is not one of a female paedophile) it's fair enough to be surprised when one does come across one. And trans women seem to have a male profile in their rates of violent and sex offences, according to links posted on here earlier.

That just demonstrates that the links you refer to (and the link you’re trying to make), is based upon out of date information and cognitive bias. Here’s a more recent example of a person engaged in the same sort of behaviour as the person being referred to in the opening post -

Woman sentenced over child pornography videos

There’s also this -

Between 2015 and 2019, the numbers of reported cases of female-perpetrated child sexual abuse to police in England and Wales rose from 1,249 to 2,297 - an increase of 84%.

Dr Andrea Darling, a criminology researcher at Durham University - who has looked at 40 cases of male and female teachers who sexually abused students - said the File on 4 figures represented the "tip of the iceberg".

She said that although all child sexual abuse was underreported, there was a particular "lack of understanding" of the extent of female-perpetrated abuse.

"That means that potentially abusive behaviour that may have been picked up if the perpetrator had been a male is explained away," she said.

"I've seen that consistently in my research."

She added it was "fundamentally important" to understand a lot more about this kind of child sexual abuse.

Female child sex abuse 'remains taboo' while victims struggle

You’ve literally chosen to focus on one single aspect of the case in question to try and make your point, and in those circumstances it stands to reason that you would make the connections you’re making and draw the rather simplistic conclusions you have done, regardless of the fact that there isn’t enough information to determine if the person in question is a paedophile, and regardless of the fact that their behaviour has nothing to do with their sex or gender identity.

Correlation is not causation, and you’re smart enough to know this, yet in spite of that fact you continue to perpetuate what you have to be fully aware of by now misleading information - the idea that biology could possibly influence behaviour. There is just no evidence to support the nonsense idea that behaviour is determined by sex.

Transgender Woman guilty of child abuse imagery offenses [ADMIN WARNING IN 1ST POST]

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