Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

James Brown · 24-03-2021 06:43PM

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Strange that link says Gardaí are investigating a "leak". Do they not know it's not a leak, it's just the "manner" in which he shared the public document that's the issue?

Man: The kitchen is flooded!

Plumber: I apologise for the manner in which the kitchen floor area became wet.

Man: Ah! Grand so.

FrancieBrady · 24-03-2021 07:00PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

As far as I remember about due process, the accused isninnocent until proven guilty and is allowed to profess his innocence at all times?
Not a fán of due process Francie?

He commented on the outcome of a Garda Criminal Investigation into him.

skimpydoo · 24-03-2021 07:11PM

Why isn't anyone in FG telling Leo to shut the fook up and just say I can't comment because it's an ongoing investigation.

Plumbthedepths · 24-03-2021 07:14PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Why isn't anyone in FG telling Leo to shut the fook up and just say I can't comment because it's an ongoing investigation.

It's not in the nature of a politician to shut up. We have seen this on many occasions regardless of who or what party they are from. My favourite from years ago was the lad on Nighthawks who admitted wire tapping was going on.

James Brown · 24-03-2021 07:16PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Why isn't anyone in FG telling Leo to shut the fook up and just say I can't comment because it's an ongoing investigation.

That ship sailed when Enda was top man, while Leo was giving out pointers on everyone else's department.

24-03-2021 07:22PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He commented on the outcome of a Garda Criminal Investigation into him.

He says the same thing every time.
1 He hasn’t be spoken to by the Gardai.
2 His solicitors contacted the Gardai to say that he’s willing to answer any questions.
3 He doesn’t believe that he did anything wrong.
4 The legal process has to be followed through.
5 He doesn’t want to be making more stories about it.

If he went “No Comment” there are plenty who would be screaming even louder than they are now for his blood.

Brendan Bendar · 24-03-2021 07:22PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Once again, you're welcome, no problem.

Look harder bren.

The high ranking officers over the inquiry are from the NBCI bren. This isn't new information here horse.

Indeed, but then again, Leo always delivers.

Sorry Randle, not buying that, either it’s right or it’s wrong.

If I was investigating a case, and was a so called senior investigator, and the alleged accused was acting in contempt of case protocol, I wouldn’t ‘have some concerns’

I would be either taking action or shutting my mouth.

Can’t see any record of any action, shaft.

FrancieBrady · 24-03-2021 07:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He says the same thing every time.
1 He hasn’t be spoken to by the Gardai.
2 His solicitors contacted the Gardai to say that he’s willing to answer any questions.
3 He doesn’t believe that he did anything wrong.
4 The legal process has to be followed through.
5 He doesn’t want to be making more stories about it.

If he went “No Comment” there are plenty who would be screaming even louder than they are now for his blood.

He said he 'believed there would be no charges', thus pre-empting the outcome of a criminal inquiry.

James Brown · 24-03-2021 07:26PM

The Garda are probably glad Leo is doing their job for them.

McMurphy · 24-03-2021 07:31PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Don’t see the NBCI mentioned in that clip, don’t see any definitive names, just “unnamed sources” and ‘concern being expressed’ by ‘senior Gardai’.

Very strange that the Tainiste would ignore advice allegedly ‘given by NCBI’
specifically on this investigation, when all he has to say is no comment on that particular issue.

Couldn't see it.

Gets shown it......

Goes into full on denial mode.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Sorry Randle, not buying that, either it’s right or it’s wrong.

If I was investigating a case, and was a so called senior investigator, and the alleged accused was acting in contempt of case protocol, I wouldn’t ‘have some concerns’

I would be either taking action or shutting my mouth.

Can’t see any record of any action, shaft.

Remember the denial mode was on display because Debbie McCann (same paper) had a Garda source stating the investigation wasn't s preliminary one, but a proper criminal one too?

It would appear that Leo's up the creek with no paddle now bren.

Brendan Bendar · 24-03-2021 07:42PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Couldn't see it.

Gets shown it......

Goes into full on denial mode.

Remember the denial mode was on display because Debbie McCann (same paper) had a Garda source stating the investigation wasn't s preliminary one, but a proper criminal one too?

It would appear that Leo's up the creek with no paddle now bren.

You are beginning to lose the dressing room Randle.

Asked to produce the NCBI....can’t produce.

Produce suggestions, suppositions, nothing concrete in this specific issue.

Don’t buy allegations, some concerns, and the typical newspaper waffle .

I’m afraid Randle, I’d like to see concrete action, names mentioned, departments mentioned, actual transgressions if committed, named and action taken.

auld newspaper waffle dudd’nt light my fire, effendi.

blanch152 · 24-03-2021 09:32PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He said he 'believed there would be no charges', thus pre-empting the outcome of a criminal inquiry.

Expressing an opinion that he didn't commit and offence and wouldn't be charged is now "pre-empting the outcome of a criminal inquiry".

Come on Francie.

skimpydoo · 24-03-2021 10:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He says the same thing every time.

If he went “No Comment” there are plenty who would be screaming even louder than they are now for his blood.

All he has to say is no comment as a criminal investigation is under way. If he did this I doubt anyone would be screaming. People are screaming now because he can't keep his mouth shut claiming he believed there would be no charges. If charges do come which is now looking more likely, will you stop defending Leo and admit he is in very serious Sh1t!.

Muahahaha · 24-03-2021 10:05PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Expressing an opinion that he didn't commit and offence and wouldn't be charged is now "pre-empting the outcome of a criminal inquiry".

Come on Francie.

No but expressing an opinion as he did this afternoon that no Garda charges will be forthcoming most certainly is trying to pre empt the outcome

skimpydoo · 24-03-2021 10:07PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

No but expressing an opinion as he did this afternoon that no Garda charges will be forthcoming most certainly is trying to pre empt the outcome

I hope the guards come down on him like a ton of bricks. He seems to think he has a golden ticket to do whatever he wants.

RandomName2 · 24-03-2021 10:39PM

I don't have time to get knee deep in this again at the moment, and I also think there's a deficit in necessary detail, but just pointing out one thing that occurred to me.

The IMO casually shared the draft contract with all of its members. About 20% of all doctors in the country were members of the IMO at that time if I remember correctly. That's thousands of people presumably receiving the contract.

That's not what I would consider secretive boardroom context. Were all these IMO members negotiators of the contract? Hardly. They may vote on the final deal, but they wouldn't all be in the room when it was being discussed. For one thing, they wouldn't all fit.

And I wonder if any IMO member shared this contract detail with any of his colleagues? Indeed some (but presumably not many) IMO members were also members of NAGP. I would imagine that some people from that profession would feel their colleagues being kept in the dark was somewhat inequitable. I would really like to hear the position of a couple of doctors to be honest.

skimpydoo · 24-03-2021 10:39PM

It's worth noting over the past 3 years other TD's have fallen for less.

FrancieBrady · 24-03-2021 11:24PM

Niall Collins very shaky defending Leo's comments on the Tonight Show. Like a rabbit in the headlights, had to depend on the 'I didn't hear what he said' line.

jippo nolan · 24-03-2021 11:30PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Niall Collins very shaky defending Leo's comments on the Tonight Show. Like a rabbit in the headlights, had to depend on the 'I didn't hear what he said' line.

When everyone else heard it, he must have been sleeping beside Eamonn Ryan!

skimpydoo · 24-03-2021 11:31PM

Ah, that old chestnut, 'I didn't hear what he said'. I think he was about to say that Leo should say nothing when he was interrupted by Matt, but he did look shakey alright. Dev would be turning in his grave at FF defending a FG leader.

jippo nolan · 24-03-2021 11:33PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Ah, that old chestnut, 'I didn't hear what he said'. I think he was about to say that Leo should say nothing when he was interrupted by Matt, but he did look shakey alright. Dev would be turning in his grave at FF defending a FG leader.

He would have been called into Charlie’s office first thing tomorrow morning!

shtpEdthePlum · 25-03-2021 12:16AM

Tomorrow's Examiner absolutely reaming Leopold.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExR5jRyW8AIhrJy?format=jpg&name=large

Johnthemanager · 25-03-2021 12:28AM

That Examiner front page is the end of old Leo.

Well done Pearse Doherty for getting that FOI. No wonder Leo was out trying to preempt the Garda investigation today.

skimpydoo · 25-03-2021 12:31AM

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

Tomorrow's Examiner absolutely reaming Leopold.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExR5jRyW8AIhrJy?format=jpg&name=large

Let's see his cheerleaders on here try and defend this. Will they try to drag SF into it again.

Johnthemanager · 25-03-2021 12:51AM

Next question is will Micheal Martin continue to let Leo try and sway the Gardai with his constant comments on an ongoing Garda investigation?

jmcc · 25-03-2021 12:52AM

That FOI request is quite damning for Varadkar. It has the timeline of the request and a quote where there is an awareness that the IMO had not published the document or distributed it to its members.

Regards...jmcc

jmcc · 25-03-2021 12:54AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Let's see his cheerleaders on here try and defend this. Will they try to drag SF into it again.

It was a SF Freedom of Information request so SF really is involved.

Regards...jmcc

skimpydoo · 25-03-2021 01:04AM

jmcc wrote: »

It was a SF Freedom of Information request so SF really is involved.

Regards...jmcc

I meant will SF be blamed.

Fann Linn · 25-03-2021 01:10AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

I meant will SF be blamed.

Of course they will. Here you go, Bobby Storey's funeral, Stanley's tweets, Cullinanes singing, Adams cooking, O 'Snodaigh's printing.
Everything including the kitchen sink will be thrown at the Shinners in an attempt to defend LeotheLeak.

FG nghtshift should be along here soon to kick the ball off with their deflection.

Sierra Oscar · 25-03-2021 01:13AM

Further revelations in the Irish Examiner today, correspondence has been obtained showing the Tánaiste requested a senior official to get him a copy of the agreement and to have it handed to him as he stepped off the Government jet in Baldonnel. Stated he wanted to read it again. He was advised that the document and agreement was still being finalised - i.e. it was still sensitive at the time he circulated it. Tánaiste has been trying to claim it was a done deal when he circulated it.

This is all allegedly on the same day the Tánaiste requested Ó Túathail's postal address.

I think his days are numbered.

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