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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Beware, some Hybrid inverters need battery power to start up in the morning, no idea if Solis ones do.
    Your Hybrid inverter will be twice the cost of a single phase inverter, seems a waste given you have a diverter and EV, better off with putting your money into more panels (or higher wattage panels) and a 6kWp non-hybid inverter IMHO

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭KAGY


    unkel wrote: »
    Oh aye and with a bit of micro management you can sure get your solar utilisation up really high. But we have to be realistic about the real savings. Your heat pump using all the early morning solar and your electric cars on solar are saving 8c at best, not 14c
    I had accounted for the 8c before 8am. However, the micro management, or lack thereof, works both ways... that's why I did a direct comparison without management. If I had that set up in 2017, without making any changes, that would have been close to the amount I saved. Yes by micromanaging I could move some of my load to night, but I don't.

    And we'll have two EV's, so one will be charged during the day. I'm not paying another €600 for a second Zappi, and two cars charging, plus the heat pump, plus the dishwasher, washing machine etc might be stretching the 63A connection at times.

    I understand your concern about the back of envelope best case scenarios, I've seen some that include near doubling of electricity prices. There are a load of things I didn't include, FIT, price increases, maintenance, haggling, but I'm sure I've got it within 15%.

    In your opinion, and I'm talking ball park, off the top of your head figure here, what percentage utilisation would you suggest would be "normal" for a 5kWp, non battery setup with an EV?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    KAGY wrote: »
    ...

    And we'll have two EV's, so one will be charged during the day. I'm not paying another €600 for a second Zappi, and two cars charging, plus the heat pump, plus the dishwasher, washing machine etc might be stretching the 63A connection at times....

    I've two EV's too, currently running the Leaf of pure PV power.
    Hopefully come high wattage days I can charge one EV off the Zappi2 and I put in an outside socket to trickle the other EV.
    Not quite there yet in terms of generation but it will happen, especially if my third string comes to fruition

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭KAGY


    jordan191 wrote: »
    so after a bit of shopping around he's my best quote

    5.7kw system, 16 no. 350w longhi pv panels, solis hybrid invertor, no battery storage with ground mount system , south facing, installed ( no grant available) for approx 7600 inc vat. I have a zappi already & an EV with large battery

    I was looking at doing a DIY install, but the electrician quotes were all a bit too high after i bought the gear myself

    Were you buying or building the ground mount system? And how much was that out of your 7600


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭jordan191


    its a renosul Consol Plastic tub system, similar to the type placed on flat roofs, didn't get the full quote yet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,093 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    KAGY wrote: »
    And we'll have two EV's, so one will be charged during the day.

    Maybe it seems I'm playing devil's advocate here, but why would you not charge on alternate nights?

    9 hours night rate * 7.4kW = 67kWh, say after losses 60kWh into the cars. At say 17kWh / 100km that is a range of 350km per day or nearly 130k km per year. Surely you don't do anywhere near that between your two cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭KAGY


    unkel wrote: »
    Maybe it seems I'm playing devil's advocate here, but why would you not charge on alternate nights?
    ?
    Just maybe :-)
    Wouldn't i love to have 60kWh of ev. Leaf 3.3kW/24kWh @ 90% soh doing 100-120km most days, will hopefully be getting outlander (it suits our family and wife's occasional need for light off road)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭KAGY


    jordan191 wrote: »
    its a renosul Consol Plastic tub system, similar to the type placed on flat roofs, didn't get the full quote yet

    I saw those, I had originally discounted them because I thought the 25deg angle was too far off the optimal 54deg. However, I've now realised that is only for panels facing due south. PVGIS calculated for my site facing sw the optimal is 33 so I might price them again .
    I'm going to design up a unistrut frame, I have to redo my percolation area on top of which I'm putting the panels so I'll get them to put in a few concrete ballasts, I worked out about 200kg per panel which seems to tie in with renusol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭reni10


    I have a PHEV and looking to get some solar as I am finding I am charging the vehicle during the day now and not just at night.

    I was initially looking at going for a 4 or 5kwh solar setup but not sure about installing a battery just yet but would like the option later down the line.

    I have a max budget of €5k so has anyone received a quote for this type of system and would this system be ok?

    I see this kit available for about €5k and think then I would also be entitled to a €3k grant which would bring the cost back down to €2k so would I be able to get the install done for another €2k to bring the price in total to €4k after the grant?
    https://solartricity.ie/grant-kit-2x7-panel-1/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭KAGY


    reni10 wrote: »
    I have a PHEV and looking to get some solar as I am finding I am charging the vehicle during the day now and not just at night.

    I was initially looking at going for a 4 or 5kwh solar setup but not sure about installing a battery just yet but would like the option later down the line.

    I have a max budget of €5k so has anyone received a quote for this type of system and would this system be ok?

    https://solartricity.ie/question/if-i-buy-from-you-and-install-via-an-seai-installer-can-i-qualify-for-seai-grants/
    See above, if you are getting an installer get them to buy the kit 13.5% vs 23% vat ie approx €5100 vs €5500


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    reni10 wrote: »
    I have a PHEV and looking to get some solar as I am finding I am charging the vehicle during the day now and not just at night.

    I was initially looking at going for a 4 or 5kwh solar setup but not sure about installing a battery just yet but would like the option later down the line.

    I have a max budget of €5k so has anyone received a quote for this type of system and would this system be ok?

    I see this kit available for about €5k and think then I would also be entitled to a €3k grant which would bring the cost back down to €2k so would I be able to get the install done for another €2k to bring the price in total to €4k after the grant?
    https://solartricity.ie/grant-kit-2x7-panel-1/

    5K should be more enough to get a 6kw system without a battery.
    PM sent.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    KAGY wrote: »
    https://solartricity.ie/question/if-i-buy-from-you-and-install-via-an-seai-installer-can-i-qualify-for-seai-grants/
    See above, if you are getting an installer get them to buy the kit 13.5% vs 23% vat ie approx €5100 vs €5500

    Installer will get this VAT rate only if using 2/3rds rule, so this will depend on installer labour/margin rate.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    reni10 wrote: »
    I have a PHEV and looking to get some solar as I am finding I am charging the vehicle during the day now and not just at night.

    I was initially looking at going for a 4 or 5kwh solar setup but not sure about installing a battery just yet but would like the option later down the line.

    I have a max budget of €5k so has anyone received a quote for this type of system and would this system be ok?

    I see this kit available for about €5k and think then I would also be entitled to a €3k grant which would bring the cost back down to €2k so would I be able to get the install done for another €2k to bring the price in total to €4k after the grant?
    https://solartricity.ie/grant-kit-2x7-panel-1/

    You’re spending a lot of extra money on a hybrid inverter and small battery, there will be losses on generation going in and back out from battery.
    Why do this when you’ve a bigger battery in your PHEV?
    I’d forget about the hybrid/battery setup and go for more/higher wattage panels and 6kWh Inverter, maybe some optimisers if you have shading...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭reni10


    slave1 wrote: »
    You’re spending a lot of extra money on a hybrid inverter and small battery, there will be losses on generation going in and back out from battery.
    Why do this when you’ve a bigger battery in your PHEV?
    I’d forget about the hybrid/battery setup and go for more/higher wattage panels and 6kWh Inverter, maybe some optimisers if you have shading...

    I have a South facing roof and no shading so the idea was to get that side of the roof covered with 7x2 360w panels for about 5kw of solar.

    I also have a Zappi EV charger on the way so wanted to be able to charge the PHEV from solar whenever it is there.

    Is €5k after the grant realistic for a 5kw setup with battery installed or am I way off the mark?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    reni10 wrote: »
    I have a South facing roof and no shading so the idea was to get that side of the roof covered with 7x2 360w panels for about 5kw of solar.

    I also have a Zappi EV charger on the way so wanted to be able to charge the PHEV from solar whenever it is there.

    Is €5k after the grant realistic for a 5kw setup with battery installed or am I way off the mark?

    I got 18 Canadian Solar 410w panels (so 7.4kWp), 5 KW Hybrid Dual MPPT inverter, a PylonTech 2.4 kw including mounting bracket and all safety switches/cables/isolators etc for €5.6k after grant payment of €3k.
    So I would say take away my extra panels and you are right there at the €5k mark.
    If you want installer details please PM.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭reni10


    slave1 wrote: »
    I got 18 Canadian Solar 410w panels (so 7.4kWp), 5 KW Hybrid Dual MPPT inverter, a PylonTech 2.4 kw including mounting bracket and all safety switches/cables/isolators etc for €5.6k after grant payment of €3k.
    So I would say take away my extra panels and you are right there at the €5k mark.
    If you want installer details please PM.

    PM sent and if anyone else has any installers that they have used that will do the job for €5k after grant or less then please PM me too.


  • Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    5K should be more enough to get a 6kw system without a battery.
    PM sent.

    Does that include the grant?

    I'm looking at 4 to 5kw system on a roof renovation. Not too bothered about battery.
    No idea what ballpark to budget


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Does that include the grant?

    I'm looking at 4 to 5kw system on a roof renovation. Not too bothered about battery.
    No idea what ballpark to budget

    After grant.


  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was looking for a 2021 thread so completely blew past this and ended up posting in a 2018 thread, which was still active this month...

    Anyhoo
    Is there any good place to grab an average install cost?
    Rather not have full court sales press before I know the ballpark

    Or if anyone would have an idea on a south by southwest facing house in North Cork.


    So by the time I got around to starting to seriously consider this COVID hit and everything ground to a halt.


    Asked for a quote, from local company today and will move from here.
    Roof is about 17m long, 2.5 high, with a facing of 157deg SE.


    Will see what they come back with.


  • Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Did anyone here go about the lower rate mortgages, based on the improved BER rating?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    Opinions on smaller solar setups? Have a quote for a 2.53Kwh system for 2400 after grant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    deleted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    MAULBROOK wrote: »
    Is that a*deleted* set up?

    No, a company near me (removing name as per charter).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    No, a company near me called....

    My bad i shouldn't have mentioned a company name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,877 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Opinions on smaller solar setups? Have a quote for a 2.53Kwh system for 2400 after grant

    That's a good price so, less than a euro per W installed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭raytaxi


    No, a company near me (removing name as per charter).
    They are doing a lot of advertising at present, I think have the right company you can pay off over 10 years at 20 euro a month as well.
    Don't think they are doing any installs at present with covid lockdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    Alkers wrote: »
    That's a good price so, less than a euro per W installed.

    Looking back through this thread, it looks like the same company you used. Could you pm me some details on what they installed equipment wise and what your experience was like? Have you posted any output details in the generation thread?

    Thanks!

    Pete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Northumberland


    Hi Maulbrook, please pm me the installer details mentioned in your post of March 20th. Thanks, David.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,196 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Hi Maulbrook, please pm me the installer details mentioned in your post of March 20th. Thanks, David.

    I wouldn't be posting my email address on a public forum...

    Plus if he is going to pm you he doesn't need it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    raytaxi wrote: »
    They are doing a lot of advertising at present, I think have the right company you can pay off over 10 years at 20 euro a month as well.
    Don't think they are doing any installs at present with covid lockdown.

    Yes, that's them. Had a good chat with them, and no hard selling at all, which is appreciated. Not sure on the status of their installs, haven't got that far yet. Still 50:50 on whether to move forward or not.


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