Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

Corholio · 21-03-2021 06:41PM

ypres5 wrote: »

it's not so much the notion of competition so much as the fact we could be in the same position as the uk with our vaccination campaign instead its rolled right into a bog. the past few months and most recently the fiasco with the blood clot hysteria has made the eu look like a bunch of petty inept bureaucrats

I addressed the EU failing on quite a bit, although imo Astra Zeneca should have more ire towards them for those who want to. There is certainly a 'competition' aspect for a lot of people, they just can't switch it off from carrying over from other aspects of life, not even in a global health emergency. It'll always be point scoring for some, either towards Irish government or across the water (who have both handled it terribly at times)

ebbsy · 21-03-2021 06:45PM

ShadyAcres wrote: »

"The next few years are crucial".- Dr Tony

I'd rather get my advice off Michael Jackson's Doctor

PTH2009 · 21-03-2021 06:51PM

Christ were ****ed

Locotastic · 21-03-2021 06:58PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Christ were ****ed

Nothing like a good aul backlog to put the Sunday night fear into you

opinionated3 · 21-03-2021 07:01PM

Anyone else think lockdown just isn't working anymore? To be fair most of my friends and relatives are still pretty much sticking to the "rules" despite actually feeling like they're getting nowhere. This evening figures will I think put an end to their compliance. Its so disheartening. And now of course, these figures will be used by nphet to further delay any relaxation of restrictions in April. Personally I was hoping to get back golfing as my own outlet but I reckon that will be out on the back burner again.
Its game over, ball burst I think. Reopen Ireland, hope for the best and vaccinate as fast as is possible. That seems to be the only way forward now. We've done our best. Its probably wasn't good enough, but that's that.

hynesie08 · 21-03-2021 07:08PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Christ were ****ed

Never buy stocks.

Housefree · 21-03-2021 07:30PM

ebbsy wrote: »

I'd rather get my advice off Michael Jackson's Doctor

Wacko was way ahead of his time with the face masks

RobitTV · 21-03-2021 07:31PM

769 new cases (on a Sunday) and we have been on Level 5 since 30th December of last year. Which was 81 days ago.

Many people have given up at this stage. They are meeting up with friends and family again and the possibility of catching covid isn't even crossing the minds of some people at this point and time.

Where do we go from here? - there is no national strategy, debate or questioning within the government. It's just the same old 'lets wait and see' and 'hope and pray to god'

Level 5 is no longer working. Strict measures and demanding more and more from the public isn't working. Fewer and fewer people have the energy to care after 12 months.

Neagra · 21-03-2021 07:40PM

https://www.innopharmaeducation.com/news/why-ireland-attracting-the-worlds-top-pharmaceutical-companies-and-how-you-can-benefit

https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/pfizer-to-invest-eu300m-add-300-jobs-to-expand-3-irish-manufacturing-sites
https://www.jnj.com/innovation/making-johnson-johnson-janssen-covid-19-vaccine
these giants are using our country to dodge paying higher corporation taxes and the very generous allowances they get here.

how the **** is it possible to live in a country that has has been turned into the worlds biggest tax haven by major corporations like johnson and johnson, pfizer and merck - Europe and America see us as getting a free ride off their backs.
yet we have to wait in line for the scraps, like good little doggies.

if king leo and the cork plonker were any good they would have applied enough pressure to see us all vaccinated by May.
if there was to be any benefit to helping major corporations dodge their taxes - could it not have been more vaccines quicker

Neagra · 21-03-2021 07:51PM

RobitTV wrote: »

769 new cases (on a Sunday) and we have been on Level 5 since 30th December of last year. Which was 81 days ago.

Many people have given up at this stage. They are meeting up with friends and family again and the possibility of catching covid isn't even crossing the minds of some people at this point and time.

Where do we go from here? - there is no national strategy, debate or questioning within the government. It's just the same old 'lets wait and see' and 'hope and pray to god'

Level 5 is no longer working. Strict measures and demanding more and more from the public isn't working. Fewer and fewer people have the energy to care after 12 months.

people are being cute about it
they are meeting up in public places
i was visiting a graveyard today which is near a very large coillte wooded area
i saw multiple quad bikes, even saw 3 old suzuki jimmys racing each other,
huge amount of cars parked up,
on way back 2 playgrounds packed with cars spilling out of the car parks,
very noticeable groups of teenagers hanging around together in the towns i passed through

for the majority this is over.

TonyMaloney · 21-03-2021 07:55PM

Mobility data suggests there's a similar level of compliance today as there was during October's level 5.

Neagra · 21-03-2021 07:57PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Mobility data suggests there's a similar level of compliance today as there was during October's level 5.

then people are leaving their mobiles at home
i do.

TonyMaloney · 21-03-2021 08:00PM

Neagra wrote: »

then people are leaving their mobiles at home
i do.

Eh... no

ShadyAcres · 21-03-2021 08:01PM

I'm done with these restrictions. Going wherever I like from now on.
I've worked for 3 months out of the last year. Gluck with your lockdown, I'm off wildcamping during the week.

RobitTV · 21-03-2021 08:04PM

If the mobility data suggests similar compliance to last October, then I do not understand how after 81 days of Level 5 restrictions how the cases have risen to 769 today.

And how they have remained at over 500 for many days.

buried · 21-03-2021 08:04PM

Lockdown merchants now need a major scare tactic to inflict any sort of compliance, like the bull$hit footage from Wuhan last year that had lads falling to the ground dead on the street from this thing or the army trucks on the streets in Italy.

Blut2 · 21-03-2021 08:08PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Mobility data suggests there's a similar level of compliance today as there was during October's level 5.

Source?

Google's mobility data as of today shows a very clear trend of more and more people going back to work, retail and recreation facilities over the last 6 weeks:

And an explosion in people going to parks.

Sharpyshoot · 21-03-2021 08:10PM

Numbers on the rise, the easing of restrictions on the 5th won’t happen. We will be down to 2km and further tightening of restrictions until the vaccine programme gets up to speed.

Aph2016 · 21-03-2021 08:11PM

Compliance is through the floor. People have had enough, so they're just ignoring the restrictions. The 5km rule is laughable so it's being ignored, people are meeting up with family and friends, companies are working even though they're not deemed essential.

There's only so long the government, NPHET and the media can scare monger and at this stage we are becoming desensitised to case numbers.

I will continue to ignore the rules I deem to be illogical.

Neagra · 21-03-2021 08:14PM

ShadyAcres wrote: »

I'm done with these restrictions. Going wherever I like from now on.
I've worked for 3 months out of the last year. Gluck with your lockdown, I'm off wildcamping during the week.

if you can get to the comeraghs, galtees or knockmealdowns,
you wont be disappointed
beautiful and peaceful

TonyMaloney · 21-03-2021 08:16PM

Blut2 wrote: »

Source?

Google's mobility data as of today shows a very clear trend of more and more people going back to work, retail and recreation facilities over the last 6 weeks:

And an explosion in people going to parks.

Yep, it does. But still only to October levels.

You'll have to download the data to compare with October

growleaves · 21-03-2021 08:18PM

RobitTV wrote: »

If the mobility data suggests similar compliance to last October, then I do not understand how after 81 days of Level 5 restrictions how the cases have risen to 769 today.

And how they have remained at over 500 for many days.

No one knows whether the theories of causality and the theoretical methods of preventing transmission are valid. We're working off of assumptions all the time.

For instance it could be that the length and tightness of our lockdowns are what run up case numbers by concentrating people together in small areas. The theory that three weeks of outdoor dining and a meal on December 25th is what did it is not proven, only assumed.

We're not even trying to ascertain whether these theories are correct because there is too much personal and political capital invested.

RobitTV · 21-03-2021 08:18PM

We need an emergency scapegoat. Lets turn back the clock to January and get back to blaming the airports. They are like Chernobyl right now.

TheDriver · 21-03-2021 08:20PM

RobitTV wrote: »

We need an emergency scapegoat. Lets turn back the clock to January and get back to blaming the airports. They are like Chernobyl right now.

Well said. Am empty airport must be like a super spreader.

darconio · 21-03-2021 08:21PM

How many of these 796 required hospital care? because with the vulnerable being vaccinated, is it fair to say that the majority of the population won't be affected/won't have any symptom and hence we can start putting in place a plan of "living with covid"?

landofthetree · 21-03-2021 08:23PM

RobitTV wrote: »

We need an emergency scapegoat. Lets turn back the clock to January and get back to blaming the airports. They are like Chernobyl right now.

When people see 34,000 people coming in per month via the airport it hardly makes people feel like the 5km rule is fair.

RobitTV · 21-03-2021 08:26PM

This was Terminal 2 on St Patrick's Day - passenger numbers down by 97% compared to the same day in 2019.

https://twitter.com/dublinairport/status/1372564109724618755

TonyMaloney · 21-03-2021 08:26PM

RobitTV wrote: »

If the mobility data suggests similar compliance to last October, then I do not understand how after 81 days of Level 5 restrictions how the cases have risen to 769 today.

And how they have remained at over 500 for many days.

Back in October we were dealing with good old covid. Now we're awash with the uk variant, which is a different kettle of fish.

If it weren't for the variant, we'd be in amazing shape after months of this lockdown. It would be all but gone.

The only thing to be thankful for is that it's the uk variant that's ****ing our **** up, and not the Brazilian one. P1 is significantly worse.

21-03-2021 08:27PM

Schools and creches are back. It's not surprising numbers are up tbh.

Natterjack from Kerry · 21-03-2021 08:28PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

The only thing to be thankful for is that it's the uk variant that's ****ing our **** up, and not the Brazilian one. P1 is significantly worse.

People just dont know how good they have it.

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