Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

blanch152 · 18-03-2021 11:10PM

markodaly wrote: »

Yet, still in government....

Its like a football team bragging about how many corners it won when the opposing team is walking off the pitch with the Trophy.

Sinn Fein won the election on xG.

smurgen · 18-03-2021 11:27PM

James Brown wrote: »

We know FG look after their own. We still await the conclusion of the Siteserv investigation also I believe Noonan's other sweet deal up north is still being investigated outside the state.
We've Varadkar trying to do a solid for Trump and leaking the confidential document to his pal, so there's a good chance he's other skeletons.

I'd say this is the tip of the iceberg.

markodaly · 18-03-2021 11:28PM

McMurphy wrote: »

This is interesting......

Didn't the workers party (Sinn Fein according to you) evolve into the democratic left?

Not according to me, it was actual Sinn Fein before the split.

This would be the same democratic left who coalesced with John Brutons FG?

This obviously being the same Democratic Left that was then led by Proinsias De Rossa

Very colourful character.

Yes and yes, the big difference though is that he was Offical IRA who were not hellbent on killing and murder like the Provos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Irish_Republican_Army

Unlike the "Provisionals", the "Officials" did not think that Ireland could be unified until the Protestant majority of Northern Ireland and Catholic minority of Northern Ireland were at peace with each other.

And they were right!

A bit off-topic, but you did ask.

golfball37 · 18-03-2021 11:32PM

McMurphy wrote: »

You'd have to wonder on what planet Heydon, or any other figure in FG believed he "did well" in that interview, McInerney didn't let him steer the conversation up a street it didn't belong to be fair.

They're in trouble with this one I think, long runs the Fox, but snared at last!

If Leo is finally charged with this, I wonder will other state contract's be re-examined?

Was Leo really unlucky enough to get snared the first and only time he did this?

Leo always delivers was in the WhatsApp chat thread the msm won’t touch. If it was about a shinner the media would ask what that phrase meant.

RandomViewer · 18-03-2021 11:34PM

markodaly wrote: »

Not according to me, it was actual Sinn Fein before the split.

Yes and yes, the big difference though is that he was Offical IRA who were not hellbent on killing and murder like the Provos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Irish_Republican_Army

And they were right!

A bit off-topic, but you did ask.

Last week you were claiming they were the same?

BackOfMyBag · 18-03-2021 11:34PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Sinn Fein won the election on xG.

have I accidentally stumbled into the sinn fein thread again ?
listening to that heydon interview earlier and reading these threads one would be forgiven for thinking finegaels stock answer for every uncomfortable question or situation is to mention sinn fein . is this official party policy or what , im not trying to be smart ass by the way , but it sureley cannot be going unnoticed to others ?

golfball37 · 18-03-2021 11:38PM

The only reason the Heydon interview is getting traction is because Sarah Mcinerney did her job and he was called on the irrelevant deflection. It’s embarrassing that she was the only one I heard in media do this.

I’ve heard Jennifer McNeil, Humphries, Harris and Leo in various guises spout the same ramesis as Heydon in past few days but they weren’t pulled up on it by the interviewer.

smurgen · 18-03-2021 11:40PM

Had Leo ever been properly grilled on the photo of MOT with the campaign for Leo top on? It's clear they knew one another alot more than he lead on.

golfball37 · 18-03-2021 11:47PM

smurgen wrote: »

Had Leo ever been properly grilled on the photo of MOT with the campaign for Leo top on? It's clear they knew one another alot more than he lead on.

He told the Dail he’d seen him 2-3 times over the previous two years. Village produced evidence of 8 meetings. Two of these were immediately shown to be false as Noel Rock and someone else vouched for varadkar on said days. The media never followed up on the others. Even if it’s 6 it’s still double of what Leo told the dail.
Our media do not do investigative journalism in the public interest, they do it in their interest. Leo may very well have alibis for the other alleged meetings to show he told the truth to the dail but I just wish someone would ask the question

McMurphy · 18-03-2021 11:50PM

smurgen wrote: »

Had Leo ever been properly grilled on the photo of MOT with the campaign for Leo top on? It's clear they knew one another alot more than he lead on.

Of course they did.

Didn't he (Zero Craic) also take the pics in which Leo posed at the traveller site in D15?

blanch152 · 18-03-2021 11:52PM

golfball37 wrote: »

He told the Dail he’d seen him 2-3 times over the previous two years. Village produced evidence of 8 meetings. Two of these were immediately shown to be false as Noel Rock and someone else vouched for varadkar on said days. The media never followed up on the others. Even if it’s 6 it’s still double of what Leo told the dail.
Our media do not do investigative journalism in the public interest, they do it in their interest. Leo may very well have alibis for the other alleged meetings to show he told the truth to the dail but I just wish someone would ask the question

So O'Tuathail claimed 8 meetings versus 2-3 times over two years. Two of O'Tuathail's meetings are immediately shown to be false, but somehow that still gives the six legitimacy without any further evidence? Good luck with that one.

golfball37 · 18-03-2021 11:56PM

blanch152 wrote: »

So O'Tuathail claimed 8 meetings versus 2-3 times over two years. Two of O'Tuathail's meetings are immediately shown to be false, but somehow that still gives the six legitimacy without any further evidence? Good luck with that one.

I said all I wanted was the question asked. He may very well have an alibi but it should be tested. I suspect a td of a certain party you claim to hate would be subjected that indignity at the very least

smurgen · 19-03-2021 12:35AM

golfball37 wrote: »

I said all I wanted was the question asked. He may very well have an alibi but it should be tested. I suspect a td of a certain party you claim to hate would be subjected that indignity at the very least

It's not credible really is it?You'd want to be an idiot to swallow the excuses being peddled.

markodaly · 19-03-2021 12:38AM

golfball37 wrote: »

I said all I wanted was the question asked. He may very well have an alibi but it should be tested. I suspect a td of a certain party you claim to hate would be subjected that indignity at the very least

Well for someone who makes extraordinary claims about FG/Leo/Government having editorial control over RTE and the Irish Times, with no proof mind, its a bit rich to take your point regards this issue.

Claims were made by the Village Magazine, where it was immediately shown as false. I think it ended there when they made false claims that were unproven.

smurgen · 19-03-2021 12:39AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Of course they did.

Didn't he (Zero Craic) also take the pics in which Leo posed at the traveller site in D15?

Yes I'm sure we've all taken our casual acquaintances into our place of work and had them campaign for us

dubrov · 19-03-2021 12:44AM

golfball37 wrote:

I said all I wanted was the question asked. He may very well have an alibi but it should be tested. I suspect a td of a certain party you claim to hate would be subjected that indignity at the very least

In fairness, if it is true that two of the claims were shown to be false, the question was pretty much answered

golfball37 · 19-03-2021 01:01AM

markodaly wrote: »

Well for someone who makes extraordinary claims about FG/Leo/Government having editorial control over RTE and the Irish Times, with no proof mind, its a bit rich to take your point regards this issue.

Claims were made by the Village Magazine, where it was immediately shown as false. I think it ended there when they made false claims that were unproven.

After your ‘extraordinary’ leap there in p1 I don’t think I can take anything you say on the matter seriously anymore. I said RTÉ gave more coverage to the Stanley tweets in November than they did to this issue.
The jump from that to your conclusion wouldn’t be done by Bob Beamon wearing rocket fuelled runners.

golfball37 · 19-03-2021 01:06AM

dubrov wrote: »

In fairness, if it is true that two of the claims were shown to be false, the question was pretty much answered

I suspect they are better friends than Varadkar claimed. Leo always delivers he said to his mates. One way of testing this is to ask the question. There are still four meetings unaccounted for- seems like a good place to start for a journalist interested in holding ethical standards in politics to account. At the very least they could rubbish Village magazine if it was entirely made up

Suckit · 19-03-2021 01:43AM

Didn't the village say that it had proof that they met at least 8 or 9 times?

smurgen · 19-03-2021 08:08AM

Suckit wrote: »

Didn't the village say that it had proof that they met at least 8 or 9 times?

Sure there's a load pictures of them together anyway.leo's Dail spoof is proven wrong by pictures alone.

RandomViewer · 19-03-2021 11:47AM

smurgen wrote: »

Sure there's a load pictures of them together anyway.leo's Dail spoof is proven wrong by pictures alone.

Was Varadkar doing the dirty?

blanch152 · 19-03-2021 01:00PM

smurgen wrote: »

Sure there's a load pictures of them together anyway.leo's Dail spoof is proven wrong by pictures alone.

You can produce those pictures then, if you are not spoofing again.

smurgen · 19-03-2021 01:37PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Was Varadkar doing the dirty?

On the electorate he was anyway. Breaking all conventions to save FG in elections. Not a good look.

James Brown · 19-03-2021 02:13PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Sinn Fein won the election on xG.

As a poster who complains about taking a thread off topic and making everything about Varadkar, here you are discussing SF in a Varadkar leak/criminality thread. Just pointing it out.

James Brown · 19-03-2021 02:22PM

markodaly wrote: »

Well for someone who makes extraordinary claims about FG/Leo/Government having editorial control over RTE and the Irish Times, with no proof mind, its a bit rich to take your point regards this issue.

Claims were made by the Village Magazine, where it was immediately shown as false. I think it ended there when they made false claims that were unproven.

I believe the claim was bias.
Do you know what 'bias' is?

We know Varadkar is a liar. We know they knew each other well enough for Zero Craic to be taking PR photos for him and Varadkar to leak at least one confidential government document for him.
An important question would be if himself and Leo were only casual acquaintances, what favours was he doing for friends?

James Brown · 19-03-2021 02:27PM

golfball37 wrote: »

After your ‘extraordinary’ leap there in p1 I don’t think I can take anything you say on the matter seriously anymore. I said RTÉ gave more coverage to the Stanley tweets in November than they did to this issue.
The jump from that to your conclusion wouldn’t be done by Bob Beamon wearing rocket fuelled runners.

In the final days of the run up to the election, the Irish Times had four 'RA affiliated stories as the top four stories. Three mentioned the IRA even though the stories weren't involving the IRA. Not one story in the weeks running up to the election mentioned housing, health, homelessness or any other FG/FF record breaking crisis.
That's my interpretation of bias.

Suckit · 19-03-2021 02:36PM

blanch152 wrote: »

You can produce those pictures then, if you are not spoofing again.

A very quick google search provides 5 or 6 different scenarios with both of them in the photos, and doesn't include the photo above.

RandomViewer · 19-03-2021 03:21PM

James Brown wrote: »

In the final days of the run up to the election, the Irish Times had four 'RA affiliated stories as the top four stories. Three mentioned the IRA even though the stories weren't involving the IRA. Not one story in the weeks running up to the election mentioned housing, health, homelessness or any other FG/FF record breaking crisis.
That's my interpretation of bias.

Clare Byrne had Garda Williams on as well but he got his arse handed to him by some wee man a few rows back, she also had a woman on who's sister was shot by the IRA but was only let tell half her story,

McMurphy · 19-03-2021 03:22PM

The photo where zero craic and Leo are posing in front of well known pacifist, and in no way shape or form, "terrorist" Michael Collins, was certainly not in the public domain until very recently.

I'd imagine it was a real "oh shît" moment when that one surfaced. :eek:

Bubbaclaus · 19-03-2021 03:25PM

McMurphy wrote: »

The photo where zero craic and Leo are posing in front of well known pacifist, and in no way shape or form, "terrorist" Michael Collins, was certainly not in the public domain until very recently.

I'd imagine it was a real "oh shît" moment when that one surfaced. :eek:

Very recently? That photo has been around for over 4 months.

Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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