Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

facehugger99 · 15-03-2021 06:18PM

Parachutes wrote: »

One things for sure, I'll never take liberty for granted ever again. Any small trust I have of Government is gone.

Any trust I had in the electorate is gone.

Way too many gullible fools out there.

Melanchthon · 15-03-2021 06:35PM

Allinall wrote: »

As I understand it, they have facilities and staff to scale up if and when necessary.

Do they though if the availability reaches a high number? I know they have pharmacist and so on board but what about groups like st John's ambulance etc?

acequion · 15-03-2021 06:36PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Oh my god on newstalk the opinion texts that came in in response to the lockdown protests . We are never getting out of this lockdown

What are they saying?

Archeron · 15-03-2021 06:38PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Oh my god on newstalk the opinion texts that came in in response to the lockdown protests . We are never getting out of this lockdown

The ones they choose to read out anyway.

15-03-2021 06:40PM

Melanchthon wrote: »

Do they though if the availability reaches a high number? I know they have pharmacist and so on board but what about groups like st John's ambulance etc?

They don't outside of a narrow framework, multiple groups volunteering their services have been turned down flat. As I understand it, being a blind devotee of the government makes everything magically operate like clockwork.

bb1234567 · 15-03-2021 06:46PM

acequion wrote: »

What are they saying?

That the protests would kill people and put us in danger, people saying it was disgusting to see anyone planning on gathering when they are at home trying to kee their family safe, that any protests in general against lockdown should not be allowed, that we would soon be the highest rate of covid on earth again if we let it go ahead

Sobit1964 · 15-03-2021 06:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, clearly called out in the article - if the IFR was 3% and the attack rate was 80%. That was over a year ago when so little was known a 3% IFR was not beyond the bounds of speculation.

And yet the lockdown and suppression methods are exactly the same ones based on this speculative proven faulty guestimate.

If we are now in a position to acknowledge that its not as bad as the initial worst case or indeed medium case modelling - surely its time to consider that the chinese model of suppression might not be required - especially when the vulnerable are already vaccinated.

ypres5 · 15-03-2021 06:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They don't outside of a narrow framework, multiple groups volunteering their services have been turned down flat. As I understand it, being a blind devotee of the government makes everything magically operate like clockwork.

I remember back in August amazon's aws cloud computing division offered to help with the vaccines rollout. as of February the offer has not been responded to so that's the extent of meeholes gratitude. i suppose some school chums contract might have been in jeopardy had he taken aws's offer

AlekSmart · 15-03-2021 06:55PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

That the protests would kill people and put us in danger, that any protests in general against lockdown should not be allowed, that we would soon be the highest rate of covid on earth again if we let it go ahead

It would appear that many people are now so infused with abject fear,and a blind belief that mankind itself is inherently tainted,that they will accept & endorse the most stringent form of Social Management.

I would not be at all surprised if we did'nt yet see the Offences against the State Act being used to ensure the State's appareatus functions to it's fullest.

Eamon DeValera knew how to handle anti-vaxxers and the likes !

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1939/act/13/enacted/en/html

acequion · 15-03-2021 07:47PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

That the protests would kill people and put us in danger, people saying it was disgusting to see anyone planning on gathering when they are at home trying to kee their family safe, that any protests in general against lockdown should not be allowed, that we would soon be the highest rate of covid on earth again if we let it go ahead

Oh ffs, such hysteria and exaggeration :rolleyes:

Stormyteacup · 15-03-2021 07:47PM

Finally the internal conversations at ISAG come to a wider audience. No denial of the content of leaked emails, so confirmed as verified now then?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40243364.html

Absolute scandal that Staines, Killeen and Ryan are given any airtime. Hopefully this will give RTÉ pause before inviting them to give their ‘expert’ opinion in the future.

I don’t agree with Ronan Mullen stance on most things, for the record, but what an arrogant dismissal of a senator by Staines - ‘I tend not to pay too much attention to Rónán, I hope that does not upset him.’

For anyone not bothered with full read here is an example of what was contained in correspondence at ISAG;

‘Four weeks ago, the head of the group wrote to its members asking them to look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty and to go after people and not institutions because “people hurt faster than institutions", Senator Mullen said, under privilege.‘

Bigly · 15-03-2021 08:20PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

It would appear that many people are now so infused with abject fear,and a blind belief that mankind itself is inherently tainted,that they will accept & endorse the most stringent form of Social Management.

I would not be at all surprised if we did'nt yet see the Offences against the State Act being used to ensure the State's appareatus functions to it's fullest.

Eamon DeValera knew how to handle anti-vaxxers and the likes !

DeValera was a gob****e

Jin luk · 15-03-2021 09:08PM

What all countries are currently in lockdown like ourselves?

any links with maps would be great!

Don't Chute! · 15-03-2021 09:17PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

That the protests would kill people and put us in danger, people saying it was disgusting to see anyone planning on gathering when they are at home trying to kee their family safe, that any protests in general against lockdown should not be allowed, that we would soon be the highest rate of covid on earth again if we let it go ahead

Did you hear the one that said “your right to protest doesn’t give you the right to kill your fellow countrymen”?

These people are real and they are out there amongst us. It is ****ing frightening.

thebaz · 15-03-2021 09:18PM

WHO saying continue with AZ vaccination - and the EU , whose vaccination program has been so slow already , stop vaccinating .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56404542

UK continue vaccination , and the EU program lags further behind - the only thing they seam to be doing well is never-ending lockdown - the answer to everything , yet causing such crhronic suffering to so many .

AlekSmart · 15-03-2021 09:20PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Finally the internal conversations at ISAG come to a wider audience. No denial of the content of leaked emails, so confirmed as verified now then?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40243364.html

Absolute scandal that Staines, Killeen and Ryan are given any airtime. Hopefully this will give RTÉ pause before inviting them to give their ‘expert’ opinion in the future.

I don’t agree with Ronan Mullen stance on most things, for the record, but what an arrogant dismissal of a senator by Staines - ‘I tend not to pay too much attention to Rónán, I hope that does not upset him.’

For anyone not bothered with full read here is an example of what was contained in correspondence at ISAG;

‘Four weeks ago, the head of the group wrote to its members asking them to look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty and to go after people and not institutions because “people hurt faster than institutions", Senator Mullen said, under privilege

.‘

This really does require further investigation,and perhaps some moves to remove the Parliamentary Privilege in relation to Senator Mullen's statement.

If this is true,then this group and the specific members involved should be called to PUBLIC account ?

PTH2009 · 15-03-2021 09:21PM

Neagra wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/news/people-urged-not-to-buy-cans-or-takeaway-pints-and-meet-up-with-friends-on-st-patricks-day-dr-ronan-glynn-40200891.html

**** these pr1cks.
drink up boyos.
i am going to my brothers who has a shebeen.
i plan on watching replays of 2010, 2016 and 2019 all Irelands, smoking some nice bensons and getting very very drunk.
Up Tipp.

I agree with everything you say bar the stuff in bold

:D

Looking forward to having a few drinks myself paddys day, sadly only cans and maybe a few takeaway pints no shebeens sadly.

walus · 15-03-2021 09:22PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Did you hear the one that said “your right to protest doesn’t give you the right to kill your fellow countrymen”?

These people are real and they are out there amongst us. It is ****ing frightening.

That is what happens when people are fed lies for 12 months on end, with no chance for receiving objective and factually correct information. I’m not surprised tbh.

Neagra · 15-03-2021 09:31PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

I agree with everything you say bar the stuff in bold :D

Looking forward to having a few drinks myself paddys day, sadly only cans and maybe a few takeaway pints no shebeens sadly.

my brother has his shebeen a few years, he lives on a farm with big gates and big dogs. i cant wait. thursday booked off too.

2010 is my favourite

yogalady · 15-03-2021 09:44PM

Just wondering does anyone know if you are fined for being outside your 5km , how long does it take for the fine to come in the post? Many thanks

the kelt · 15-03-2021 09:46PM

yogalady wrote: »

Just wondering does anyone know if you are fined for being outside your 5km , how long does it take for the fine to come in the post? Many thanks

It depends!

Are you a member of an ethnic minority?

gozunda · 15-03-2021 09:50PM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

And yet the lockdown and suppression methods are exactly the same ones based on this speculative proven faulty guestimate.

If we are now in a position to acknowledge that its not as bad as the initial worst case or indeed medium case modelling - surely its time to consider that the chinese model of suppression might not be required - especially when the vulnerable are already vaccinated.

They haven't.

The following groups are all those who have received or about to recieve the first shot or have already received a second dose of vaccine or in process to do so. They make up the most vulnerable cohorts of people.

The groups currently being vaccinated against COVID-19 are:

those aged 65 years and older who live in long-term care facilities (group 1)

frontline healthcare workers (group 2)

people aged 70 and older living in the community - at different stages (group 3)

people aged 16 to 69 who are at very high risk (group 4)

https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout-covid-19-vaccines-ireland.html

AlekSmart · 15-03-2021 09:54PM

yogalady wrote: »

Just wondering does anyone know if you are fined for being outside your 5km , how long does it take for the fine to come in the post? Many thanks

AFAIAA,a fine can only be issued by a Court.

I think you're expecting a Fixed Penalty Notice,which these days,can be issued by Gardai if you look crooked at them.

You have a specific time to pay the FPN,after which it's referred further for a prosecution in court,where the fine could be higher....unless,you manage to get a Judge who has'nt lost his/her sense of proportion ?

AlekSmart · 15-03-2021 10:00PM

yogalady wrote: »

Just wondering does anyone know if you are fined for being outside your 5km , how long does it take for the fine to come in the post? Many thanks

You could plead your case that you were only keeping up with accepted Social Norms...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40244804.html

The article indicates the extent to which the State is now going to demonstrate it's powers....a bit of muscle flexing,if you will,in it's crusade to
keep the frightners on.... :mad:

FintanMcluskey · 15-03-2021 10:12PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

You could plead your case that you were only keeping up with accepted Social Norms...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40244804.html

The article indicates the extent to which the State is now going to demonstrate it's powers....a bit of muscle flexing,if you will,in it's crusade to
keep the frightners on.... :mad:

This is grim

New data from the Central Statistics Office (CSO) shows that people living in more urban areas, where services are accessible, were more likely to remain in their locality.

Groundbreaking scientific data.

The news items are a world a way from 12 months ago when stories of ventilator shortages made the headlines.

GT89 · 15-03-2021 10:15PM

Was out and about today loads of traffic on the road loads of people not wearing masks, loads people living normally. Didn't come across any Garda checkpoints either. Good to see people are beginning to stop giving a fcuk but unfortunately I think the government are going to keep up the fear mongering and get their way again unfortunately like they did in January.

Was in a petrol station with a big no mask no entry in the shop even though staff behind the counter weren't wearing masks. I'm guessing if I forget to bring a mask to this garage and fill up my tank that means the fuel is free. I'll keep that in mind next time I run low.

CalamariFritti · 15-03-2021 10:24PM

GT89 wrote: »

Was out and about today loads of traffic on the road loads of people not wearing masks, loads people living normally. Didn't come across any Garda checkpoints either. Good to see people are beginning to stop giving a fcuk but unfortunately I think the government are going to keep up the fear mongering and get their way again unfortunately like they did in January.

Was in a petrol station with a big no mask no entry in the shop even though staff behind the counter weren't wearing masks. I'm guessing if I forget to bring a mask to this garage and fill up my tank that means the fuel is free. I'll keep that in mind next time I run low.

I think gas stations have a mask or two on rotation for such cases

hynesie08 · 15-03-2021 10:26PM

GT89 wrote: »

Was out and about today loads of traffic on the road loads of people not wearing masks, loads people living normally. Didn't come across any Garda checkpoints either. Good to see people are beginning to stop giving a fcuk but unfortunately I think the government are going to keep up the fear mongering and get their way again unfortunately like they did in January.

Was in a petrol station with a big no mask no entry in the shop even though staff behind the counter weren't wearing masks. I'm guessing if I forget to bring a mask to this garage and fill up my tank that means the fuel is free. I'll keep that in mind next time I run low.

Sounds good, just shoot Ben Gilroy a message for confirmation.....

normanoffside · 15-03-2021 10:39PM

Here's Dr Ray Walley from today's NPHET lecture giving out about a family catching Covid by going to visit a dying family member.
He also went on to criticise an elderly lady for going to her brother's funeral and picking it up.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1371524912720973824

Del Griffith · 15-03-2021 10:44PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Here's Dr Ray Walley from today's NPHET lecture giving out about a family catching Covid by going to visit a dying family member.
He also went on to criticise an elderly lady for going to her brother's funeral and picking it up.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1371524912720973824

Scum. No other word for him, that is low.

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