Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

BackOfMyBag · 14-03-2021 12:47AM

#LeoTheLeak

#LeoTheCriminal

Floppybits · 14-03-2021 12:49AM

James Brown wrote: »

So the current leader of the 'law and order party' is a "person of interest" in a criminal investigation. Interesting.
Add to that all his stupid divisive comments and FG's hammering in the last election; they must be just keeping him around for ****s and giggles.

All getting a bit serious now for something that we were constantly told on here that there was nothing to see, it wasn't a confidential document, he was entitled to do it as supreme leader.

If we actually had a strong leader they would be telling Varadkar to step aside till this investigation is over. How embarrassing it must be for the FG party that once prided itself on being the law and order party.

shtpEdthePlum · 14-03-2021 12:54AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/caulmick/status/1370862313520181248?s=20

I wonder if he'll do time and if this investigation will be just around this one specific incident or include his leaky history.

Hilariously there was a tribunal in The Thick of It about the "culture of leaking" in Downing Street. A civil servant was to blame

hopefully there'll be more satisfactory outcome here. He really is absolutely shameless. He'll be having a bad night tonight though, I'll drink to that.

BackOfMyBag · 14-03-2021 12:57AM

shtpEdthePlum wrote: »

I wonder if he'll do time and if this investigation will be just around this one specific incident or include his leaky history.

Hilariously there was a tribunal in The Thick of It about the "culture of leaking" in Downing Street. A civil servant was to blame hopefully there'll be more satisfactory outcome here. He really is absolutely shameless. He'll be having a bad night tonight though, I'll drink to that.

sláinte!

Jinglejangle69 · 14-03-2021 12:57AM

Floppybits wrote: »

All getting a bit serious now for something that we were constantly told on here that there was nothing to see, it wasn't a confidential document, he was entitled to do it as supreme leader.

If we actually had a strong leader they would be telling Varadkar to step aside till this investigation is over. How embarrassing it must be for the FG party that once prided itself on being the law and order party.

I'm fairness I can racall various TD's and reps from parties getting interviewed and investigated in the past and not stepping aside.

Why should this be different?

Bertie, Gerry Adams, there is a long list.

markodaly · 14-03-2021 01:03AM

I for one am glad this has been upgraded to a full investigation, as it shows the no one is above the law, and the sly comments about highly corrupt Ireland or FG is mostly nonsense.

One also has to remember that one is innocent until proven guilty. If this case was dropped, we would have a sizeable section of the internet giving out about corruption, underhanded deals and so on, with no proof mind, and this case would be no different.

An independent Gardai investigating something, without political interference is the foundation of a true Republic. Other posters and opposition parties should take note. Just like Francis Fitzgerald resigning from her cabinet position, doest infer guilt, this investigation doesn't infer guilt either. Francie Fitzgerald was 100% exonerated by Justice Charlton after the fact. I am confident the same will happen to Leo, there isn't much there from what I have read about this case.

We also have to remember, before Leo is sent to the Joy, this investigation has to be concluded, sent to the DPP, the DPP has to decide if there is enough there to get a prosecution, it then has to be sent to a court of law, where a judge will hear arguments on both sides and then decide if one is guilty....

As per Leo, stepping 'aside'. Of course not. He is still innocent of anything and this will not stop him from doing his job.

Floppybits · 14-03-2021 01:07AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I'm fairness I can racall various TD's and reps from parties getting interviewed and investigated in the past and not stepping aside.

Why should this be different?

Bertie, Gerry Adams, there is a long list.

That is some group to belong too. Not forgetting Lawlor who went straight to Dail after serving time in jail.

BackOfMyBag · 14-03-2021 01:12AM

markodaly wrote: »

I for one am glad this has been upgraded to a full investigation, as it shows the no one is above the law, and the sly comments about highly corrupt Ireland or FG is mostly nonsense.

One also has to remember that one is innocent until proven guilty. If this case was dropped, we would have a sizeable section of the internet giving out about corruption, underhanded deals and so on, with no proof mind, and this case would be no different.

An independent Gardai investigating something, without political interference is the foundation of a true Republic. Other posters and opposition parties should take note. Just like Francis Fitzgerald resigning from her cabinet position, doest infer guilt, this investigation doesn't infer guilt either. Francie Fitzgerald was 100% exonerated by Justice Charlton after the fact. I am confident the same will happen to Leo, there isn't much there from what I have read about this case.

We also have to remember, before Leo is sent to the Joy, this investigation has to be concluded, sent to the DPP, the DPP has to decide if there is enough there to get a prosecution, it then has to be sent to a court of law, where a judge will hear arguments on both sides and then decide if one is guilty....

As per Leo, stepping 'aside'. Of course not. He is still innocent of anything and this will not stop him from doing his job.

why did she resign?

Jinglejangle69 · 14-03-2021 01:19AM

Floppybits wrote: »

That is some group to belong too. Not forgetting Lawlor who went straight to Dail after serving time in jail.

Yep.

Jinglejangle69 · 14-03-2021 01:21AM

BackOfMyBag wrote: »

why did she resign?

Fitzgerald was later cleared of blame by the Collins Report in March 2018.[22] In October 2018, the third interim report of the Disclosures Tribunal found that she had "selflessly" resigned in the national interest

Leftwaffe · 14-03-2021 01:35AM

markodaly wrote: »

I for one am glad this has been upgraded to a full investigation, as it shows the no one is above the law, and the sly comments about highly corrupt Ireland or FG is mostly nonsense.

One also has to remember that one is innocent until proven guilty. If this case was dropped, we would have a sizeable section of the internet giving out about corruption, underhanded deals and so on, with no proof mind, and this case would be no different.

An independent Gardai investigating something, without political interference is the foundation of a true Republic. Other posters and opposition parties should take note. Just like Francis Fitzgerald resigning from her cabinet position, doest infer guilt, this investigation doesn't infer guilt either. Francie Fitzgerald was 100% exonerated by Justice Charlton after the fact. I am confident the same will happen to Leo, there isn't much there from what I have read about this case.

We also have to remember, before Leo is sent to the Joy, this investigation has to be concluded, sent to the DPP, the DPP has to decide if there is enough there to get a prosecution, it then has to be sent to a court of law, where a judge will hear arguments on both sides and then decide if one is guilty....

As per Leo, stepping 'aside'. Of course not. He is still innocent of anything and this will not stop him from doing his job.

The ideal scenario for me is that all of the above happens, he doesn’t step down, and he’s ultimately convicted. He will have dragged his party through the thickest of sh1t if he does and I will love every minute of it. Sectarian comments last week, criminal investigations now.

The party of law and order my h*le. Leo is the gift that SF have been looking for all along. Long may it continue.

Rows Grower · 14-03-2021 01:50AM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/full-garda-probe-into-varadkar-gp-pay-leak-40193839.html

What will happen him if he's found guilty of breaching the Official Secrets Act?

Edit, I found what happened someone who was convicted in Ireland recently...

https://www.thejournal.ie/dpp-employees-4672836-Jun2019/

Rows Grower · 14-03-2021 01:59AM

markodaly wrote: »

I for one am glad this has been upgraded to a full investigation, as it shows the no one is above the law, and the sly comments about highly corrupt Ireland or FG is mostly nonsense.

One also has to remember that one is innocent until proven guilty. If this case was dropped, we would have a sizeable section of the internet giving out about corruption, underhanded deals and so on, with no proof mind, and this case would be no different.

An independent Gardai investigating something, without political interference is the foundation of a true Republic. Other posters and opposition parties should take note. Just like Francis Fitzgerald resigning from her cabinet position, doest infer guilt, this investigation doesn't infer guilt either. Francie Fitzgerald was 100% exonerated by Justice Charlton after the fact. I am confident the same will happen to Leo, there isn't much there from what I have read about this case.

We also have to remember, before Leo is sent to the Joy, this investigation has to be concluded, sent to the DPP, the DPP has to decide if there is enough there to get a prosecution, it then has to be sent to a court of law, where a judge will hear arguments on both sides and then decide if one is guilty....

As per Leo, stepping 'aside'. Of course not. He is still innocent of anything and this will not stop him from doing his job.

That rather surprises me mark considering your previous attitude to this ongoing saga.

An Claidheamh · 14-03-2021 02:03AM

Rows Grower wrote: »

That rather surprises me mark considering your previous attitude to this ongoing saga.

Sarcasm detector has blown a fuse

An Claidheamh · 14-03-2021 02:08AM

On another note, now that An Garda Siochána have considered that there is merit enough to investigate this as a crime, does Jennifer MacNeill FG and Aodhán Ó Riordáin Lab still consider the motion of no confidence to be a waste of time and money?

That said, Varadkar can’t really win now

If the DPP go ahead with investigation it at the very least undermines him, as it could roll on into when he is set to be Taoiseach and if DPP won’t further the investigation, there will be calls of corruption

Jinglejangle69 · 14-03-2021 02:11AM

An Claidheamh wrote: »

On another note, now that An Garda Siochána have considered that there is merit enough to investigate this as a crime, does Jennifer MacNeill FG and Aodhán Ó Riordáin Lab still consider the motion of no confidence to be a waste of time and money?

That said, Varadkar can’t really win now

If the DPP go ahead with investigation it at the very least undermines him, as it could roll on into when he is set to be Taoiseach and if DPP won’t further the investigation, there will be calls of corruption

Calls of corruption by who?

And evidence is needed for a call like that.

Doesitmatter21 · 14-03-2021 02:25AM

Games up for Leo

markodaly · 14-03-2021 02:53AM

An Claidheamh wrote: »

if DPP won’t further the investigation, there will be calls of corruption

Of course there will, hence my previous point.

Tyrone212 · 14-03-2021 04:48AM

I think FG would do better in the polls without him, wonder is there any appetite within the party to get rid of him. He's divisive, petty and a Dutch persons worst nightmare.

Curse These Metal Hands · 14-03-2021 06:17AM

Leo is definitely a hindrance to FG at this stage. Between his chronic leaking habits to his public, and reckless, slamming of NPHET right before a massive surge of Covid infections, very very few have faith in him anymore. Time to step down.

Johnthemanager · 14-03-2021 08:31AM

When Paul Reynolds is reporting on this story for RTE, will he now describe Leo Varadker as known to Gardai?

BackOfMyBag · 14-03-2021 08:47AM

BackOfMyBag wrote: »

why did she resign?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Fitzgerald was later cleared of blame by the Collins Report in March 2018.[22] In October 2018, the third interim report of the Disclosures Tribunal found that she had "selflessly" resigned in the national interest

that didnt answer what I asked at all. so once again, why did fitzgerald resign?

smurgen · 14-03-2021 09:43AM

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Don't let them distract you mate, they'll try and drag you down a different path. We're discussing the criminal investigation into fine gael leader Leo varadker. Party of law and order indeed.

Law and order for some. Leaked commercially sensitive documents for others

videos like this look extremely bad for FG in my opinion. Can't take them serious with Varadkar at the helm.

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1218134601207615488?s=19

shatners bassoon · 14-03-2021 09:58AM

Blanch and Maryanne to thread immediately. The Shinners have infiltrated the Gardai.

smurgen · 14-03-2021 10:05AM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Leo is definitely a hindrance to FG at this stage. Between his chronic leaking habits to his public, and reckless, slamming of NPHET right before a massive surge of Covid infections, very very few have faith in him anymore. Time to step down.

Party is dragged into the gutter. Look at the Trumpian levels of deflection they were dragged into over this.

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1326274488921690112?s=19

14-03-2021 10:17AM

shatners bassoon wrote: »

Blanch and Maryanne to thread immediately. The Shinners have infiltrated the Gardai.

If the Gardai didn’t talk to Leo, there’d be outrage! Has he been charged?

Anyway, it’s Mothering Sunday and I’m preparing for the delights of a Mother’s Day dinner via Zoom! Happy Mother’s Day to all mothers amongst us.

shatners bassoon · 14-03-2021 10:24AM

Deleted User wrote: »

If the Gardai didn’t talk to Leo, there’d be outrage! Has he been charged?

Anyway, it’s Mothering Sunday and I’m preparing for the delights of a Mother’s Day dinner via Zoom! Happy Mother’s Day to all mothers amongst us.

Good that you got the goalposts moved nice and early so!

Enjoy your day

Johnthemanager · 14-03-2021 10:32AM

We have had the Penguin, Mr Big, the Viper. What gangster name will Leo have when he goes into jail? I'm going with "The Postman" because he always delivers!

14-03-2021 10:34AM

shatners bassoon wrote: »

Blanch and Maryanne to thread immediately. The Shinners have infiltrated the Gardai.

Wish I could thank this twice for both the post and the username

Captain_Crash · 14-03-2021 10:35AM

Johnthemanager wrote: »

We have had the Penguin, Mr Big, the Viper. What gangster name will Leo have when he goes into jail? I'm going with "The Postman" because he always delivers!

I’d have gone with The Plumber, the man for the leaks!

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