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Any 530e owners out there?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    Normal One wrote: »
    The silence on a rainy motorway is what swung it for me.

    You can get a list of the spec by inputting your VIN here, in case you didn't know...
    https://www.mdecoder.com/

    Been putting my VIN in to those websites since I picked up the car but none of them are coming back with anything. They all say the VIN isn't recognised. But the BMW website recognises it when I check for software updates.. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭markobucko


    fifth wrote: »
    Been putting my VIN in to those websites since I picked up the car but none of them are coming back with anything. They all say the VIN isn't recognised. But the BMW website recognises it when I check for software updates.. :confused:

    Same myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Catglee


    Am considering purchasing however concerned it wouldn't suit my driving profile.
    5 days @ 70 km each way motorway driving.
    Nowhere to charge during the day between commutes.
    Am I better off getting g the 520d?
    Would appreciate anyone's feedback who drives a similar pattern


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Catglee wrote: »
    Am considering purchasing however concerned it wouldn't suit my driving profile.
    5 days @ 70 km each way motorway driving.
    Nowhere to charge during the day between commutes.

    I'd 100% be going full battery electric, with that regular commute. You're at 35k km commuting alone & likely 40k km including some weekend driving.
    A BEV would yield significant running cost savings, probably €4k per year or more.

    Other than that, I'd say you're well into diesel territory. The 530e would be entirely the wrong choice for that usage pattern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭kirving


    40,000[km] * 7.0[l/100km] * 1.4[€/l] = €3,920

    In perfect conditions, and plugging in in work, night rate at home, etc. the 530e has the potential to cut that fuel bill in half.

    Diesel would be ballpark €3k on fuel.

    But to achieve that, you need the same diligence at a BEV owner to plug it in all the time. Of course with the caveat that you don't need to.

    I think PHEV's have their place, and have a 330e myself which I use mostly for motorway commuting, but I bought it for other reasons than fuel economy (VRT, reliability, power). But in your case, the potential 1k saving vs diesel is hard to achieve in practical terms.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    kirving wrote: »
    40,000[km] * 7.0[l/100km] * 1.4[€/l] = €3,920

    In perfect conditions, and plugging in in work, night rate at home, etc. the 530e has the potential to cut that fuel bill in half.

    Diesel would be ballpark €3k on fuel.

    But to achieve that, you need the same diligence at a BEV owner to plug it in all the time. Of course with the caveat that you don't need to.

    I think PHEV's have their place, and have a 330e myself which I use mostly for motorway commuting, but I bought it for other reasons than fuel economy (VRT, reliability, power). But in your case, the potential 1k saving vs diesel is hard to achieve in practical terms.

    This poster doesn't have the opportunity to cut it in half though as there is a 140km round trip with 1 charge. We work about 230 days a year so thats 32000kms commute alone. A quarter of this commute might be on battery power and let's not forget electricity isn't free at home.
    Using your figures above of 40000kms at 1.40 per litre and 7 litres per 100km, I reckon they could knock a quarter off it on petrol costs then add electricity costs back......

    That said, the difference is going to be small enough to be fair if they do leave for their commute with a full battery....and 530e is a nicer engine than a 520d for most (not trying to start a debate here but most people prefer petrol if cost not an option.
    Is a few hundred euro a year that big of a deal for doing 40000kms in a 5 series?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    My Mam’s 530e died today.
    172 with 90k km.

    She was driving as normal and then all of a sudden it started juddering and came to a halt. All electrics working perfect. Lights, doors, everything fine.

    Car just wouldn’t power on. Couldn’t get it out of P.
    12v fine.

    Anyway. Joe Duffy Technician arrived on scene (thank god it occurred 200m from them and we had a contact there) as the main line just told us to get it towed to them. But hard when your in an underground basement car park with P and handbrake engaged!

    Anyway long story short, full reboot of the car from the laptop. Car started. Drove straight to joe Duffy. They messed around with it and ended up doing a full software update.

    Car back running and told to monitor it

    Very strange!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Gumbo wrote: »
    My Mam’s 530e died today.
    172 with 90k km.

    She was driving as normal and then all of a sudden it started juddering and came to a halt. All electrics working perfect. Lights, doors, everything fine.

    Car just wouldn’t power on. Couldn’t get it out of P.
    12v fine.

    Could be something as small as the brake pedal switch - could prevent any gear selection if it didn't detect the brake being pressed. Would expect the diagnostics would show a fault though. That wouldn't explain the juddering either.
    The bloody thing even knows I've a dashcam operating in parking mode - it detects the few milliamps it draws :eek:.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Kramer wrote: »
    Could be something as small as the brake pedal switch - could prevent any gear selection if it didn't detect the brake being pressed. Would expect the diagnostics would show a fault though. That wouldn't explain the juddering either.
    The bloody thing even knows I've a dashcam operating in parking mode - it detects the few milliamps it draws :eek:.

    Lads in Duffys just said they cleared a catalogue of errors and updated the 2017 software to 2021.

    No apparent cause could be found seemly. Just to monitor it over the coming days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,999 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Lads in Duffys just said they cleared a catalogue of errors and updated the 2017 software to 2021.

    No apparent cause could be found seemly. Just to monitor it over the coming days.

    I know this was a recent enough purchase.
    Does your mother have warranty on it?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    mickdw wrote: »
    I know this was a recent enough purchase.
    Does your mother have warranty on it?

    Manufacturer warranty is out.
    Dealer warranty still in place and they had a truck on stand by to tow it if the technician couldn’t get it started so that was comforting. They also paid the €120 to duffys for the software update and associated diagnostic.

    One of the lads mentioned that if it was still under manufacturers warranty, they may have held onto the car for a week to try replicate the problem.

    Seemly they were in consulting with BMW UK and sharing the error codes across and a software update was the recommended fix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,999 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Manufacturer warranty is out.
    Dealer warranty still in place and they had a truck on stand by to tow it if the technician couldn’t get it started so that was comforting. They also paid the €120 to duffys for the software update and associated diagnostic.

    One of the lads mentioned that if it was still under manufacturers warranty, they may have held onto the car for a week to try replicate the problem.

    Seemly they were in consulting with BMW UK and sharing the error codes across and a software update was the recommended fix.
    Not too bad - i really think these need to be kept within warranty of some description.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Dealer warranty still in place......They also paid the €120 to duffys for the software update and associated diagnostic.

    Who paid the €120? Surely diagnosis & attempted remedy (here, the software update) were covered by the dealer warranty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Probably an isolated occurrence but does anyone else get a notification that their 225xe has fully charged?
    I imagine it's a backend server issue & I'm getting notifications for someone else's car :eek:.

    Anyway, 225xe owner, whoever you are - your car is charged to 100% now, please unplug it :pac:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,999 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Kramer wrote: »
    Who paid the €120? Surely diagnosis & attempted remedy (here, the software update) were covered by the dealer warranty?

    The independent dealer who sold it to them paid the main dealer fee and were going to tow it also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Kramer


    mickdw wrote: »
    The independent dealer who sold it to them paid the main dealer fee and were going to tow it also.

    The problem with independent dealer warranties is the incentive for main dealers to, how can I say this tactfully, fleece them when it comes to high end cars.

    There's very little scope for an independent to troubleshoot electronics in such a new vehicle & if a main dealer says it needs a €2k module, well then that's that.

    The main dealer/manufacturer wouldn't be as quick to throw expensive parts into a manufacturer warrantied car.

    Personally, I'd prefer a manufacturer extended warranty or main dealer warranty on a relatively new & expensive car, especially one with HV batteries & hybrid drive etc.

    Hopefully, in this case it was just some type of software glitch, or a glitch in the matrix - I'm receptive to both possibilities :pac:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,999 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Kramer wrote: »
    The problem with independent dealer warranties is the incentive for main dealers to, how can I say this tactfully, fleece them when it comes to high end cars.

    There's very little scope for an independent to troubleshoot electronics in such a new vehicle & if a main dealer says it needs a €2k module, well then that's that.

    The main dealer/manufacturer wouldn't be as quick to throw expensive parts into a manufacturer warrantied car.

    Personally, I'd prefer a manufacturer extended warranty or main dealer warranty on a relatively new & expensive car, especially one with HV batteries & hybrid drive etc.

    Hopefully, in this case it was just some type of software glitch, or a glitch in the matrix - I'm receptive to both possibilities :pac:.

    Id agree 100 percent re warranty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭markobucko


    Have a 192 model and with a full charge taking near 5 hrs on granny cable I only get 21/22 Kms of charge.
    Does this sound right ?
    Thought I seen quotes of nearly double the distance with the bigger battery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Kramer


    markobucko wrote: »
    Have a 192 model and with a full charge taking near 5 hrs on granny cable I only get 21/22 Kms of charge.
    Does this sound right ?

    5 hours charging would be right with that cable. A type 2 cable charges at 3.7kW on the 530e so would take just over half that time, 2.5/3 hours.

    The range depends on how you drive, the road type, average speed, heating on etc., but as little as 21km would certainly be possible (cold/driving aggressively etc.), as would 40km+ in summer, in an urban area or with a low average speed, driven economically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    The most I've seen so far on my 201 with the larger 12kWh battery pack was 41km. As soon as I start driving with any AC or heating it drops to 31km.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭bilasy


    fifth wrote: »
    The most I've seen so far on my 201 with the larger 12kWh battery pack was 41km. As soon as I start driving with any AC or heating it drops to 31km.

    I’ve 330e every time I charge the battery to 100% I get different km range some time 40 some times 20 does that seem right?
    Thank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭bilasy


    fifth wrote: »
    The most I've seen so far on my 201 with the larger 12kWh battery pack was 41km. As soon as I start driving with any AC or heating it drops to 31km.

    I’ve 330e every time I charge the battery to 100% I get different km range some time 40 some times 20 does that seem right?
    Thank


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Hi folks, some advice please. Almost pulled the trigger on a 330e last year but it was sold before i made a decision.

    A couple of local garages have 530e's that i like the look of.
    Am doing 2/3 days a week in the office, pretty much all M50 onto N7 (citywest) (no charging available). That is likely to change to a commute to Sandyford later in the year, so will go from a 50km round trip those days to probably a 15km round trip.

    From Sept will have two kids in school with different pick up times - school is pretty close, but time constraints mean I will use the car so probably 6km round trip will have both picked up.

    We have the usual local spins, GAA training, Swimming, parents are close by etc. So my thoughts are i can do a lot of these on electric.
    Wife will be Wfh some of the days too, but her commute is Sandyford aswell.

    We have 2 cars at the moment, 191 auto GT 5008, we are up and down to Mayo a bit (will increase as restrictions lift) and we have a mobile home, so lots of up and down to that this year.

    I drive a 2011 smax, 120K Miles and this is what i want to get rid of.

    Any advice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    You won't do your 50km round trip on electric without a charge and I don't think you'll even do a 15km round trip plus school runs plus other bits and pieces on a single overnight charge.....but you'll do it mostly on electric and that's the thing to remember with phevs, they're dual source power. If you charge it fully every night I still think when you go to a 15k commute you'll derive most of your power from electric. Don't be afraid of using a little petrol, even if its only 50/50 you'll still be well up on a diesel.

    Even the mayo trip will only cost a few quid more in a 530e than a 520d. Presume it's not a weekly trip or anything like that.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    You won't do your 50km round trip on electric without a charge and I don't think you'll even do a 15km round trip plus school runs plus other bits and pieces on a single overnight charge.....but you'll do it mostly on electric and that's the thing to remember with phevs, they're dual source power. If you charge it fully every night I still think when you go to a 15k commute you'll derive most of your power from electric. Don't be afraid of using a little petrol, even if its only 50/50 you'll still be well up on a diesel.

    Even the mayo trip will only cost a few quid more in a 530e than a 520d. Presume it's not a weekly trip or anything like that.

    Thanks buddy, the Mayo trips are every 3/4 weeks, but we have a 6/5/2 year old, so they are still in proper seats so the 5008 will be the car that goes on those trips.

    From watching youtube, it seems like real-world l/100 is around 6 or so, I can live with that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭markobucko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Thanks buddy, the Mayo trips are every 3/4 weeks, but we have a 6/5/2 year old, so they are still in proper seats so the 5008 will be the car that goes on those trips.

    From watching youtube, it seems like real-world l/100 is around 6 or so, I can live with that

    6 litre per 100km is in around where you'll end up with a diesel anyway, for the bit of effort of night time charging you should at least match that. If you think a 530e is a superior car to a 520d, which most do, it makes it a decent proposition I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭markobucko


    Anyone recommend what engine oil and how much is required for the 530e?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Going to ring this dealership tomorrow to see can I go over for a look, they've 3 cars I'd like to have a look at. The 2018s are slightly high on the miles but priced quite well I believe compared to others on sale. Not mega miles, just high side of average for the year.
    The 2017 is lower miles but same price, so not sure there. Presented with these 3 options, which one would jump out at you? I've to familiarize myself with specs and options on these, some of you may know more than I do.
    I'm leaning towards the sophisto grey with cream interior and sunroof, solely based on colour combo, but it's early days in my search, may or may not go with any of these 3.

    2 of them are listed as having through loading system which I believe is split folding seats, am I correct there? I think if the 3rd doesn't have it it's going to be a deal breaker. I had 5 series without it before and the odd time got caught out. I have folding seats in my a6 and have to say they've been handy.

    Or any others you see for sale, limiting myself to 30k budget.

    https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=orN7

    https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=QamD

    https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=WEZ1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    Going to ring this dealership tomorrow to see can I go over for a look, they've 3 cars I'd like to have a look at. The 2018s are slightly high on the miles but priced quite well I believe compared to others on sale. Not mega miles, just high side of average for the year.
    The 2017 is lower miles but same price, so not sure there. Presented with these 3 options, which one would jump out at you? I've to familiarize myself with specs and options on these, some of you may know more than I do.
    I'm leaning towards the sophisto grey with cream interior and sunroof, solely based on colour combo, but it's early days in my search, may or may not go with any of these 3.

    2 of them are listed as having through loading system which I believe is split folding seats, am I correct there? I think if the 3rd doesn't have it it's going to be a deal breaker. I had 5 series without it before and the odd time got caught out. I have folding seats in my a6 and have to say they've been handy.

    https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=orN7

    https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=QamD

    https://www.lmg.ie/vehicle?id=WEZ1

    The loading might just be through loading. So I can pull down the middle seat in mine and load long items through. But I would have preferred split folding rear seats.


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