Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Now that the variants nonsense is petering out we'll be hearing a lot about still births for the next while.

Hold firm. The next 2 weeks are crucial.

Have you not heard about the new New York variant that was announced on the NPHET TV show today?
There’s also a new variant from Antigua doing the rounds in England.

franciscanpunk wrote: »

I'm actually at the stage where don't give a f..k what they say anymore.

Having people over Easter bank holiday will give me something to look forward to but overall I've had enough. Just tell us what %of the country needs to be vaccinated for what level of opening. If they did that people would probably source the vaccines for them, can see thousands of people offering their services to AZ:) in all seriousness though if the vaccinated people in a controlled arent are still have their lives dictating to them by NPHET what is the point.

I really can't see how the government can defend the position that they have outsourced the decision making of the country to NpHET

If they linked opening to vaccine numbers that would put pressure on the government and the HSE to deliver the vaccines.
That’s why it’s not gonna happen, easier to blame students, protests and people going to work.

Graham wrote: »

Yes now it's clear.

You don't understand the purpose of those repatriation flights.

That does explain why you're confused.

what was the purpose of the flights then? also please explain how you think the b117 variant got over here if not from the government flying people over from britain where b117 was first detected

Never have I heard such bulls**t go unquestioned.

- "Lockdown to protect the health service"
- "The next two weeks are crucial" (On loop)
- Masks don't work
- Lockdown 1, lockdown 2, lockdown 3.0
- "Close Airports"
- Oh masks do work
- Meat factories
- "Let's close construction, despite all other countries keeping it open"
- "Lets keep golf courses closed even though we know that your 17* less likely to contract covid outdoors"
- Insert Thomas Ryan zero covid bulls**t here
- Another billion for, you, and you, and you (Shure, dont worry, repaying this is someone else's problem)
- Varient 1, varient 2, varient 3
- Antigen tests anyone? NO, They might help us get out of lockdown quicker
- No other country has a 5k limit (for this long anyway), Meehole:, sorry, I mean NPHET: "Eh lets keep the 5k, we don't want to give these loons (irish citizens) any luxuries"
- NPHET: can we pull out that data from Google so we can see what these irish citizens have been upto lately! Oh, we've had several people go play golf, LOCKDOWN
- Actually, vaccines might not stop you spreading the virus, lets stay shut until everyone has got the vaccine
- Varient 4, varient 5
- It's not enough to get the vulnerable vaccinated now, we need to get everyone vaccinated
- Stillbirths...

What have I missed?
I find it impossible to believe one word this government say, God help any government TD that comes near my door during the next election.

TonyMaloney wrote: »

It's a little sad that many of you think all this variant talk is nonsense.
A couple of weeks ago we wiped the floor with good old covid for the third time. We pulverized it. It's pretty much extinct on the island of Ireland.

The reason you're stuck in your gaf is because of B117. And it's not that NPHET is being overly cautious about the unknown, b117 has proven itself in multiple countries to being much more resilient.
It's now a known. You guys just don't know it yet somehow.

Not nonsense but a lot of the claims just don't seem evident in the real world. Allegedly it's twice as deadly but why weren't the deaths far higher then in the January wave in the UK for example? The UK saw similar number of hospitalisations from COVID in the second wave as the first, so we can assume level of infections in the winter wave were in the same ball park as the april wave last year, but death weren't noticeably higher at all. Excess deaths were generally lower in the second wave in the UK. So whatever about transmissibility, but it really does not look clear at all that it's killing twice as many people infected with it as back in April.

Graham wrote: »

No idea how it got here, like yourself.

I suspect it arrived here with multiple carriers.

Then again, I'm not the one pretending I know it was brought in on flights to repatriate our own.

so the flights coming from the uk and b117 becoming the dominant variant here and infection rates shooting up were entirely coincidental in your mind? cast iron logic there graham I'll finish up now you tell yourself whatever makes you feel better

jams100 wrote: »

Never have I heard such bulls**t go unquestioned.
- "Lockdown to protect the health service"
- "The next two weeks are crucial" (On loop)
- Masks don't work
- Lockdown 1, lockdown 2, lockdown 3.0
- "Close Airports"
- Oh masks do work
- Meat factories
- "Let's close construction, despite all other countries keeping it open"
- "Lets keep golf courses closed even though we know that your 17* less likely to contract covid outdoors"
- Insert Thomas Ryan zero covid bulls**t here
- Another billion for, you, and you, and you (Shure, dont worry, repaying this is someone else's problem)
- Varient 1, varient 2, varient 3
- Antigen tests anyone? NO, They might help us get out of lockdown quicker
- No other country has a 5k limit (for this long anyway), Meehole:, sorry, I mean NPHET: "Eh lets keep the 5k, we don't want to give these loons (irish citizens) any luxuries"
- NPHET: can we pull out that data from Google so we can see what these irish citizens have been upto lately! Oh, we've had several people go play golf, LOCKDOWN
- Actually, vaccines might not stop you spreading the virus, lets stay shut until everyone has got the vaccine
- Varient 4, varient 5
- It's not enough to get the vulnerable vaccinated now, we need to get everyone vaccinated
- Stillbirths...

What have I missed?
I find it impossible to believe one word this government say, God help any government TD that comes near my door during the next election.

A lot obviously...

Try living in lots of other EU country atm and you'll hear little different. Even the UK it is illegal to leave your residence currently (forget the 5 km here) and countries where they didn't get Christmas off such as Germany and are facing rising case numbers or are in deep dodo atm like Austria or Czechoslovakia. On and btw covid variants are seen as a significant issue around the world not just here But yeah keep up screaming it's just us - it's not you know.

JDxtra wrote: »

If receiving a vaccine doesn't permit individuals any additional freedoms, you can start to see how we could end up with many people simply refusing one.

Especially true for low risk healthy individuals where the risks of Covid are extremely low anyways.

Definitely, I’m young and healthy, not an anti vaxer by any means but I have no reason to be vaccinated. I’ve never gotten a flu vaccine and I doubt I’l get this one. But if being vaccinated gave me more freedom then I would definitely take it.

I don’t really agree with a two tier system of society but I think a ‘vaccine passport’ so to speak wouldn’t be a bad idea for 3-6 months

jams100 wrote: »

It's not illegal to leave your residence in the UK, not only that, but in the likes of Scotland your allowed play golf, which is common f**king sense!!!

you're trying to fact check the guy who said nigeria and the uk have the same obesity rate last week and then backtracked once he was called out and said he meant the middle class. facts jumped out the window for him ages ago

Graham wrote: »

Oh, you're still at that one. ok

What percentage of December arrivals into the country came via the repatriation flights?

Was the new variant already in the country at that stage?

What would you have done with those that were returning home (not just coming over for the holidays)?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for tightening restrictions on international travel for non-essential purposes as a temporary measure. I'd be quite happy to see the current namby pamby fine approach dropped in favour of something much more persuasive.

Meaning???? Much more punitive perhaps? As if it isn't punitive enough!!